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Puppy and disc golf

Responsible dog owners adhere to the posted laws.

Not this again. Read a few pages back. There are places where you can let your dog run free and dont have to have him on a leash.

Just cause you think you know the whole problem and the law is on your side does not mean that this answers every question.
 
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I wonder how many of those bites happened in normal circumstances. I'd bet most of the dog bites around the country happen when a careless or ignorant dog owner lets his dog get put in an abnormal situation that the dog doesn't know how to handle. Even Cesar Millan, who knows as much about dog psychology as anyone, recently got into trouble because he was overconfident in his dog walking abilities: http://www.tmz.com/2014/07/23/cesar-millan-dog-whisperer-dog-attack-great-dane-studio-city/ .

Agree with the bolded. My issue with this thread is that some folks here can't differentiate between responsible dog owners bringing their dog to the course and those who are irresponsible.

Can something bad happen if you do everything "right" and someone else is the idiot? Yes. Does that mean you should never take your dog/kid/etc out in public? Up to you, but I don't think so...

I look at it like this - it is my responsibility to ensure that my dog doesn't interfere with the enjoyment of others (within reason). Now you can't make everyone happy. Some will be mad that there is a dog on the course even if it never left my side, barked, or went within 100 yds of anyone else. So how do I do this, simple:
- Never bring my dog if playing w/ a group that is bothered by it.
- Ensure my dog is LEASHED where appropriate...which is most of the time. Any park where it is required. In cases where it is not required, I still generally leash him unless completely alone.
- Ensure my dog is properly socialized with both other animals and strangers in case OTHERS don't use some common sense. This is obviously not foolproof as another idiot without a leashed dog could cause problems, but as in other facets of life its a choice with an acceptable risk to me.
- Ensure my dog is trained to never chase / pickup a thrown disc. Not jump on others. Use manners when others are throwing to not be a distraction. This comes in the form of sitting at my bag anytime it is set down (throwing, putting, etc).
- Always clean up after my dog if necessary (although rarely it is).

I just wish that the "anti-all dogs" folks could realize that there is a difference between the good, the bad, and the ugly and not just grab the pitchforks whenever someone mentions a dog on a course.
 
Another thing that I dont get : Dogs need to socialise with other dogs. They learn from each other. For example young dogs usally want to play a lot, to a point where older dogs get bothered by it. Then the older dog usually barks or snaps at the young dog. But this is how the young dogs learn. If you never let your dog free and are scared of dog to dog contact, how will your dog learn "dog etiquette"?
 
You are absolutely right, Smigles. The disc golf course is the only place for a dog to socialize with another dog. I mean, why even bother going to a place that caters to dogs exclusively like, I don't know, maybe a dog park? That would just be ridiculous.
 
I think that after work today I'm going to go discing in a dog park. Seems like the logical place to do it.
 
You are absolutely right, Smigles. The disc golf course is the only place for a dog to socialize with another dog. I mean, why even bother going to a place that caters to dogs exclusively like, I don't know, maybe a dog park? That would just be ridiculous.

We dont have dog parks here. Just parks.

But I am sure you wouldn't be so sarcastic if you knew more about switzerland... right?
 
Another thing that I dont get : Dogs need to socialise with other dogs. They learn from each other. For example young dogs usally want to play a lot, to a point where older dogs get bothered by it. Then the older dog usually barks or snaps at the young dog. But this is how the young dogs learn. If you never let your dog free and are scared of dog to dog contact, how will your dog learn "dog etiquette"?

If you're letting your dog loose to socialize in a park, your forcing others in the park, human or dog, to participate in the socialization of your dog. There are likely other park goers who want no part of that, not everyone likes dogs. Socialization is best done in a controlled environment like a dog park, where the other dogs and people are there for the same purpose.
 
If you're letting your dog loose to socialize in a park, your forcing others in the park, human or dog, to participate in the socialization of your dog. There are likely other park goers who want no part of that, not everyone likes dogs. Socialization is best done in a controlled environment like a dog park, where the other dogs and people are there for the same purpose.

Not to mention that you can at least be under the assumption that dogs in a dog park have a certain level of socialization already, or they wouldn't be there.
 
We dont have dog parks here. Just parks.

But I am sure you wouldn't be so sarcastic if you knew more about switzerland... right?

I spent a few days in Zurich, Geneva and Lucerne. I got to walk across the Kapellbrücke, play an alpenhorn while eating lunch at the Stadtkeller and I saw some frog fences while driving through the Swiss Alps. Sadly, I didn't have a need to exercise or socialize my dog as she was back home in America.
 
Responsible dog owners follow the law....obviously if you are in a park that allows dogs to be off the leash you aren't breaking any leash laws. (thought this was obvious in my statement) When reading this thread I got the feeling folks have different views on what responsible is. I stand by my statement that responsible begins with following the applicable laws.
 
If you're letting your dog loose to socialize in a park, your forcing others in the park, human or dog, to participate in the socialization of your dog. There are likely other park goers who want no part of that, not everyone likes dogs. Socialization is best done in a controlled environment like a dog park, where the other dogs and people are there for the same purpose.

Not to mention that you can at least be under the assumption that dogs in a dog park have a certain level of socialization already, or they wouldn't be there.

As i said. No dog parks. Just parks. And dogs are more often seen and more tolerated than discgolfers...

I spent a few days in Zurich, Geneva and Lucerne. I got to walk across the Kapellbrücke, play an alpenhorn while eating lunch at the Stadtkeller and I saw some frog fences while driving through the Swiss Alps. Sadly, I didn't have a need to exercise or socialize my dog as she was back home in America.

Nice for you. Does this have a point?
 
So Smigles, it basically sounds like you're trying to force your European standards to an American conversation. Hello, cultural differences, how do you do?
 
Nice for you. Does this have a point?


Uh, I guess my point is that I know a bit more about your country than your snarky response was willing to give me credit for. Clearly, your perspective is skewed in the sense that your Swiss reality in regards to dogs on the course is different than that of most Americans. Perhaps you realize this, yet you continue to post as though this thread is a personal attack against you and your dog loving ways. To be honest, I find the whole thing to be rather strange.
 
It's not just in regards to dogs where his perspective is skewed. Any time he feels Switzerland does something a better way, you'll find him beating the horse long after it's died.
 
Yeah as if... i wish we had separated parks and designated disc golf areas. How is this better here?
 
Responsible dog owners follow the law....obviously if you are in a park that allows dogs to be off the leash you aren't breaking any leash laws. (thought this was obvious in my statement) When reading this thread I got the feeling folks have different views on what responsible is. I stand by my statement that responsible begins with following the applicable laws.

I disagree with you a bit here, only because well, everyone breaks the law. especially traffic laws, but laws nonetheless.

I break the law at every course I play that requires leashed dogs. Don't get me wrong, my dog is leashed, I'm just not holding on to it. I do this because I feel the law is there to protect people from irresponsible dog owners. I put in the time with my dog as pup and even still do to this day. She is well behaved, stays within 10-20 feet of me unless i tell her to go lay down in the shade. Not chasing anything (animals, people or anybodys discs) I have zero fear of my dog doing anything out of line to cause harm. If that happens well then I will have to live with those results, but i'm not blindly following the rulles for the sake of rules.
 
I disagree with you a bit here, only because well, everyone breaks the law. especially traffic laws, but laws nonetheless.

I break the law at every course I play that requires leashed dogs. Don't get me wrong, my dog is leashed, I'm just not holding on to it. I do this because I feel the law is there to protect people from irresponsible dog owners. I put in the time with my dog as pup and even still do to this day. She is well behaved, stays within 10-20 feet of me unless i tell her to go lay down in the shade. Not chasing anything (animals, people or anybodys discs) I have zero fear of my dog doing anything out of line to cause harm. If that happens well then I will have to live with those results, but i'm not blindly following the rulles for the sake of rules.

That's some nice thin logic
 
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