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Can someone explain HOW this is reality? I've NEVER understood how these photos make any sense. All I see is the first guy with his disc nose down, and PP's disc nose up right before the discs launches from their hand. And I understand that the body balance, swing plane, body positions, etc make a difference. But just looking at the two discs right before they come out, the guy on the left has his disc nose down, and PP is nose up. If I were to just look at this and not know anything about throwing a disc (which sometimes I still don't think I know as much as I should, haha), it looks like PP will throw that disc into the stratosphere, and the guy on the left right into the ground.
So how does this work out in reality, because I obviously know PP's throw is not going to be nose up, but I just don't understand how this works, and something I still continue to not understand or know how to correct.
Doesn't matter how perfect I put the disc in my hand and grip it, then tilt my wrist down, I usually throw with some tiny or medium amount of nose up and know I'm loosing distance from it. It feels SO awkward to try and tilt your wrist down, hold on to the disc tight (but somehow keep a loose arm and grip till the last sec) and throw a great shot. NONE of the disc golf swing feels natural or powerful and continues to baffle me, haha.
This picture is a snapshot. At the "Hit" Paiges forearm would have slung forward, and the portion of the disc currently about 270 degrees (anticlockwise) from her thumb will be the nose. So at the "hit" her fist will be somewhere near the top of the P in the picture and the disc will be strongly nose down relative to the trajectory of her forearm - pointing almost level with the top of the U.
As for your own nose down I would suspect it is nothing to do with grip or swing plane but because you are not fully posting on the front leg before you swing and you are not getting your weight forward into the shot, you'll be throwing off the backside instead of the front.
This would chime with some of the other threads where it's been talked about almost feeling like you are falling forwards and having to catch your weight through the X step . I would guess you struggle to throw long anhyzers that ride/glide out of the turn, they probably get up to the turn and then stall out and dump left (OAT can actually counter this a bit but from memory your throws are pretty clean).
Get in the field, get on your toes (important) and try to feel like you are falling forwards towards the target through the Xstep (start with the first step with your body straight on even as the left foot crosses and only getting side on/away right at the end as the right/plant foot goes forward (think Hershyzer drill). The one trick with this when working on it is not rushing it (stupidly easy to do with the falling forwards feel, you can find yourself almost doing Fred Flintstone feet) Try to go through the motion slowly and just let the arm swing in and away. You should pretty quickly notice a lower trajectory flight that carries a bit more than you are used to.
I don't have a radar gun but my Sprocker spaniel is a brilliant indicator of the relative speeds of a throw with weight on the back foot vs front foot. Back foot she will catch the discs up and be waiting underneath to catch it, front foot she will be chasing it all the way and never have a chance of catching it up. Effort wise they both feel the same and with putters will carry close to the same distance on a straight throw. The big difference is on the front foot I can throw the big high lines either anny or hyzer flip and gain loads more distance gliding out of the turn, throwing on the back foot these will just stall out and go the same as the straight throw.
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