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[Innova] The mythical Innova ROC
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hugheshilton
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I tried to switch to Gateway mids for a while and had 2 or 3 SureGrip Karmas. It's shallower than a Roc and has that curve where the rim meets that flight plate that some people hate (that part didn't bother me). The Karmas I had were all less high speed stable than a Roc. They either started out with some turn or else developed it very quickly. They're not bad mids at all, but I wouldn't say they fly that similarly to a Roc.
I tried some Warriors which are also interesting mids. They tended to fade harder than a Roc, but all but 1 of my Warriors also developed some turn pretty quickly so they ended up flipping over a bit and then biting back hard at the end of the flight. I had 1 Warrior that I really liked: it flew straight with a hard fade at the end. Honestly, it flew a lot like a Verdict though so if you really want that straight to hard fade flight, I think it's easier to buy a Verdict than look for a "good" Warrior.
My west side pine flys that straight to solid fade line you're talking about. And it seems to be wearing pretty slowly, I haven't noticed any change in it all summer.
I wonder if I got a strange verdict, or maybe the lucids best in quickly?
I wonder if I got a strange verdict, or maybe the lucids best in quickly?
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Did you guys see the '09 USDGC Roc F2s on dgu?
https://dgustore.com/f2-usdgc-2009-champion-rancho-roc.html
I'm thinking about picking one up, was '09 a nice stable run?
https://dgustore.com/f2-usdgc-2009-champion-rancho-roc.html
I'm thinking about picking one up, was '09 a nice stable run?
tbird888
Salient Disc Test Team
The one I had was decently stable.
That's a sweet find! Not everyday someone casually uncovers a box of USDGC Rocs from 8 years ago. Haven't thrown that run, but I enjoy the stability of my 05 USDGC Champion Roc.
Somewhat related question: were USDGC Champ Rocs more valuable and sought after before Champion Roc3s came out? I played very casually up until the past couple of years and wasn't paying attention to that sort of thing. I'm always surprised when I see a never or barely thrown old USDGC Champ Roc go for less than $20 on the facebook auction sites.
Somewhat related question: were USDGC Champ Rocs more valuable and sought after before Champion Roc3s came out? I played very casually up until the past couple of years and wasn't paying attention to that sort of thing. I'm always surprised when I see a never or barely thrown old USDGC Champ Roc go for less than $20 on the facebook auction sites.
dehaas
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Flat or domey? I had an 08 thrower and it was gross and domey.
I'm not sure when USDGC Rocs stopped being the be-all end-all, but the USDGC Roc release date used to be a huge deal and the prices would spike up automatically. Somewhere along the line it just stopped being that big of a deal, not sure if it lined up with the Roc3 or not. I'm thinking it happened when they cancelled the Pro version one year and had Champ USDGC Roc+'s out for sale. Neither one of those ideas was really great for USDGC Rocs.
hendryxdisc
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Not to derail the USDGC discussion, but has anyone tried the flat top KC rocs from Marshall St?
JeCroisQue
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As for the USDGC ones. I picked up a few from marshall street. They feel and fly just like my 08 throwers.
Just picked one up. It's definitely flat and has a really nice feel to it. I have not thrown it, but I can't see why it won't fly great.
Just picked one up. It's definitely flat and has a really nice feel to it. I have not thrown it, but I can't see why it won't fly great.
hendryxdisc
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Awesome I'll have to grab some then. I am always hesitant to buy rocs offline but have no access to consistent flatties.
About 3ish months ago I found myself slowing throwing all rocs in my midranges. However, my overstable roc got a nasty kick off a tree into the depths of my local lake. After another week or two of playing I realized I was throwing my emac truth for nearly every shot. But recently I've notice how I don't like the speed of the emac, if a hole is in the 210-250 range I don't like throwing the emac, it just doesn't want to turnover or hold straight long enough at that distance, even a beat in one. I still have one mega flippy dx roc. I now find myself missing the roc, it's much more controlable than the emac and I can get it to go straight or turnover much easier. I can throw it smooth, unlike the emac where it doesn't like being powered down in my open. I think I'm going to go back to throwing rocs and keep an emac in the bag for those 260-290 range shots. My favorite rocs where slightly stiff dx ones that after getting a little dirt on them they have a nice tacky feel. My dream roc would be a roc with the classic aviar plastic. A nice stiff dx that beats in beautifully. I had a pink classic aviar that beat in to this smooth buttery feel, when I threw that disc in the lake I nearly cried.
This sounds amazing. I have noticed the new DX Rocs that have "Roc" embossed on the bottom just don't feel right. Strange feeling floppy plastic. The embossed Classic Aviars I have tried seem to be fine.
http://www.bluegrassdiscgolf.org/BGamDISCS.html
Wondering if this is a typo but if its not Id be kinda jacked about a champion glow roc X
Wondering if this is a typo but if its not Id be kinda jacked about a champion glow roc X
ILUVSMGS18
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So Glow Tauruses already? I think I need a Taurus more than a Shyrke right now.
