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Twin Cities area course vandalized by idiots protesting new user fees

eegor said:
It may keep the noobs off of the course, but is that really what is wanted?
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I don't think a pay to play course is the place for a beginner anyway. Assuming, of course, the pay to play course is as hard and long as you would expect.
 
First off, they can't revamp 2 courses at the same time. They only have a set amount of workers and cash to work with. The Valley is undergoing huge changes, once that is done it's likely they'll move the efforts over to Kaposia. Get a year pass and stop bitching, if you want free then throw your disc at trees.
 
rocthecourse said:
Disc golf is a fast growing sport, pay-to-play will put a halt to that. What noob will want to pay $9 for a cheap disc then have to pay another $5 for a round. There are plenty of pay-to-play courses where the money goes to other programs/sports. And you were a noob at one time.
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Have you played Putt Putt Golf in a while? $6.50 a person, and if you go on a Friday or Saturday, the places are packed with families.


We have a local course that is on Church property, and they have a donation box by the second tee, and the money goes towards the up keep of the course.

We also have a very nice course on private property, that has a great pro shop,and its only $3 to play. It keeps most of the riff raff away, and the money helps take care of a very nice course.
 
rocthecourse said:
I'll pay-to-play as soon as they charge for the swings, slide, monkey bars, merry-go-round, or teeter tooter.
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If your city has a public pool that taxes pay for, I bet you still have to pay to go swimming there.


How much maintenance do Monkey Bars, swings, and merry go rounds require, when compared to an disc golf course anyway?
 
Apothecary said:
if the course was still as ghetto as it was pre-pay-to-play i would be the one with the spray paint in my hands (and still playing for free).

if they are using public park space then they cant really REQUIRE people to pay. its a public park.if the course is well-maintained and always carries the vibe of improvement, i cant see what frolfer would mind contributing to their local scene (though their prices seem a touch steep....).:\
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You are an idiot. They can most assuredly charge you to play.

I was just there on Sunday, and the course looked better than I remembered, no huge changes yet, but the maintenance seemed better than in past years, signs are really needed (as I missed a hole) but beyond that it's still a really good course.
 
deadbody said:
You are an idiot. They can most assuredly charge you to play.

I was just there on Sunday, and the course looked better than I remembered, no huge changes yet, but the maintenance seemed better than in past years, signs are really needed (as I missed a hole) but beyond that it's still a really good course.
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youre retarded and uninformed.

/me can hurl out expletives too.:\

what are they going to do? call the cops and have you arrested for trespassing? wouldnt happen.

i speak from experience. if people can picnic in the same area as golfers are golfing, they cant kick golfers out for not paying.
 
public park=picnickers can picnic and nobody has standing to give them trespassing tickets=non-paying golfers have the same status.
 
Apothecary said:
youre retarded and uninformed.

/me can hurl out expletives too.:\

what are they going to do? call the cops and have you arrested for trespassing? wouldnt happen.

i speak from experience. if people can picnic in the same area as golfers are golfing, they cant kick golfers out for not paying.
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Um... Yes they can, and yes they will.

Just because it is a public park doesn't mean you can do what you want there. There is a cost to play there, if you are caught playing without the wristband you will be escorted off the property and given a ticket to the tune of about $150 for tresspassing.
 
you let me know when that happens and perhaps ill believe you (though thats a slim-to-none chance).

around here the pay to plays on public land can ask people to leave for their safety, but cannot "have them escorted off the property."
 
Played there many times

I'm from Minneapolis and played Kaposia regularly for a # of years before moving. The Twin Cities has 40-50 courses with about 5 or 6 that are pay to play. Those courses remain as busy as when they were free.

I played one of the P2P courses when visiting family recently and the course was much better maintained than it had been in the past.
 
I'm playing Bryant Lake this Saturday. I might go and play without paying and see what happens.

Apo, will you pay my fine if one is levied?
 
I don't see why people get so worked up about pay to play courses. A pay to play course can obviously offer a much better environment and much better conditions than a free to play course. I'm not saying that all courses should be pay to play, but a few would be great. I'd love it if some of the courses around Des Moines were pay to play. I can't imagine how great they would be if that were the case. Three to five dollars for a one time visit or 30 to 40 for a year pass doesn't seem that outrageous at all.

Second, its been pay to play for just under 2 months. You cannot expect them to make vast changes immediately. I wouldn't expect big changes to begin until the season after pay to play was implemented. Besides, they are doing things. From the article:
Money collected so far has been used to mow the lawn and trim the course, add wood chips on some holes and install new benches. Those have been vandalized, too, Snelson said.
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I'm with you Cy. I don't get why people feel entitled to things for free.
 
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