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Mesa, AZ

Freedom Lakes

3.545(based on 13 reviews)
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nightwing
Silver level trusted reviewer
Experience: 16.2 years 279 played 57 reviews
4.00 star(s)

Four Diamonds...no rough. 2+ years

Reviewed: Updated: Played on:Dec 4, 2016 Played the course:2-4 times

Pros:

-Beautiful place. Lush grass, mature trees. Nice!
-LOTS of 'shots'. Long range shot shaping.
-Variety of control shots. Challenging greens
-Risk vs Reward with only a few 'Automatic drop-in pars'.
-Worth the $5.00 even for a quick round.
-Way cool to stay at the pretty decent 'Green Tree Inn' right there ON the course parking lot.

Cons:

-Not beginner friendly (but not many will come here).
-Lost discs in water (but shallow...mostly retrievable).
-Confusing layout at first (but it was clear soon enough).

Other Thoughts:

I was surprised to see this course rated below 3.5. It is a lovely and challenging day of golf for any strong Am or Pro player. The two course pro guys were VERY helpful and took the time to get me going in the right direction. Leave time to get oriented . There were a few pretty well chosen discs for sale, as well as restrooms, in the nice little trailer of a Course shop. The course was available all day on my second visit 3/19.

The first thing I noticed is that 'Foot Golf' or 'Soccer Golf' is big here. They ALSO had a complete course layout right ON the ball golf course and there were over 30 soccer players there, but mostly in one big group, so maybe that isn't usually the case? The second thing is that there were very few golfers on the beautiful and windless cool afternoon I spent there. Clearly the powers that be know they need additional revenue and I never got that edgy 'We're only tolerating you' vibe like you can at some Disc on Ball courses.

It takes a few minutes to get the layout figured. Each tee-pad is marked, mostly in spray paint on concrete near or on the Ball Golf Pad. You can play a short loop of holes 1 thru 5 or 6 thru 18.

I chose to play a forehand and a backhand to each hole. That 36 holes, with many re-throws and a twenty minute break, took almost five hours. But a foursome could get around in less than 2 hours without jogging.

I'm an average Grandmaster Pro and found the course to be pretty forehand friendly, shooting par, and really backhand challenging, at 7 over par. For a right hand/backhand thrower, your long range flex or anhi will get a workout on those right hand pin locations.

Top pros will prefer the tougher 'Tournament Layout' and may want to call ahead and see when it's available. Local Pro/Advanced types will be plenty challenged to get under par and Intermediates who throw over 200' should have a blast too. Short armed recs will have a long day but hey, come when it's not too hot and this is a nice place to be.

Note that you will want to bring some beater discs. The water is in play at least as much as at Vista, though it is shallow and you usually can fish it out if you just roll in.

All in all, I am surprised to see this course rated under 3.5. Apparently there have been recent improvements in signage and I can see how that might have been a problem. Follow the signs and figure out the format and this is a very fun and rewarding course. There were more great, long lines here than any course in the area, and only a few 'Dull drive, easy approach, drop in your par' yawners. .
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fighting otter
Experience: 8.2 years 2 played 2 reviews
4.00 star(s)

Everything you'd want out of a course 2+ years drive by

Reviewed: Played on:Jul 15, 2016 Played the course:once

Pros:

The course is on a golf course. I thought that would be a downside. But the golf course is a little crummy and isn't well-maintained for golf, so it makes for an excellent disc golf course.

We just happened to play the day before a tournament, so we played the tournament layout. It was excellent. A lot of variety. The trees and lake provide some drama. I'm a beginner (but longtime ultimate player), and the course was challenging for me but lots of fun because of the variety.

There were two other disc golf groups going at the same time, and they were super helpful.

Cons:

Tees aren't well marked (but you can figure it out)

You sometimes cross paths with ball golfers.

The lake is tricky. I wussed out and didn't lose any discs, but I'm sure I would have if I were trying hard.

Other Thoughts:

Cost is $6. We started at 7AM. I'm not sure when the time restrictions are put in place for disc golf, but there wasn't any when we went.
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todd9500
Experience: 41.5 years 335 played 8 reviews
4.00 star(s)

Pay-to-play Mesa DG course deserves our support 2+ years drive by

Reviewed: Played on:Feb 8, 2016 Played the course:5+ times

Pros:

Beautiful nine hole course with many tall eucalyptus trees, some elevation changes, and a small lake. Course is shared with ball golfers. DG green fees were $8 for two rounds of nine holes --- $18 for ball golfers. Disc golfers should call the clubhouse at 480-969-0377 if you want to tee off before 2pm (during the winter months) to see if that's an option.

Course design/difficulty/obstacles/out-of-bounds: Challenging technical course with the OB greens, mature trees, and a lake that comes into play 4-5 holes. There are two baskets per hole. Nice mixture of short and longer holes.

Course condition: Excellent. Fast - can deploy rollers on a few holes.

Navigability/ signage/maps/tee pads: Maps are given out at clubhouse. Start at Gazebo shooting south. Baskets have numbers on them. No signs at tee-pads. Most holes use the existing cement available. Hole #2/11 uses a worn dirt pad. It may take one round before you know where everything is at.

Local DG involvement: Great work by designer Rob Hart and the Mesa DG Club to add this course.

Amenities/Benches/shelters/picnic tables: They have new owners and are in the process of obtaining city permits to start construction on a new clubhouse. There are picnic tables near the clubhouse area. There is bench seating near many of the tee pads. There are a couple of portable toilets on property.

Cons:

Later hours for disc golfers in the winter months. $8/18 holes.

Other Thoughts:

Remember the Disc Golfer's Code: 1) Play Smart - Never throw into a blind area or when players, spectators, pedestrians, or other facility users are within range. Use a spotter. 2) Respect the Course - Observe all posted rules. No littering, graffiti, or abuse of equipment or flora. 3) Represent the Sport - Be positive and responsible. Teach others.
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TheGrim
Bronze level trusted reviewer
Experience: 13.9 years 75 played 45 reviews
4.00 star(s)

Golf Course 2+ years drive by

Reviewed: Played on:Mar 29, 2014 Played the course:2-4 times

Pros:

You can't ask for a better looking course than this. It's on a beautiful little executive golf course with lots of large trees and a lovely little pond. The trees provide a great deal of shade and are used quite well in the course design.

The two pin locations for each hole is an especially nice touch. The alternate locations are well thought out and designed to add challenge to the course. I like that some of the longer ones are on one round while others are on the second.

The use of elevation is quite well. Most of the tee pads are elevated, but the baskets are spread out with uphill and downhill shots. It's a great mix.

The course doesn't favor right or left handed players. Most pins are located on either side of the fairway and the round design is good at mixing them up.

Four of the holes offer great risk/reward options, 5/14 and 9/18. On 5 you have the option of gunning for it to try to clear the pond, but need a solid 360 ft throw to do so. You can throw something more stable and attempt to have it cut in by the trees, but you risk the trees swatting it down into the pond.

14 is the same tee pad as 5 and the alternate location is also tricky because of the freeway on the right and the pond on the left.

9/18 are from the same tee pad and almost force you to throw over the pond. There is a window to avoid doing so but it will almost certainly add a stroke onto the hole. The good news is that it's only about 260 to clear the pond so it's much more doable. I played with a guy whom was playing his first round ever and he was able to flick over the pond.

The course is easy to follow as it follows the flow of the golf course.

The golfers I met were extremely nice and even let us play through when we were moving faster than them. They found the disc golf integration to be fascinating and liked it.

Cons:

By far the biggest con is the price of the course. When we went it was $10. The guy at the club house said that they adjust the price based on the time of year. As more ball golfers use the course they raise the price for disc golf.

The only other real drawback is the lack of signage. Tee signs would have been nice to determine what hole was what cage. That being said the clubhouse gives out maps that are pretty easy to read, even though they are in black and white.

Other Thoughts:

The pro shop guy said that they play a lot of tournaments there and I can see why. The course is beautiful and offers some great par 4's and a par 5 that are pretty legit. Even some of the par 3's were pretty tough. It's refreshing to see that kind of design.

This was an absolute pleasant surprise to find. The name of the course sounded a bit hokey to me, but it turned out to be fantastic! I preferred the course over the others in the area that I played. That should be expected I guess, what with the steep greens fees and all.

The combined disc/ball golf course is a fantastic idea. It made for a beautiful setting for a round of disc golf!

Overall it gets .3 down for being a 9 hole (usually I take a full point but the alternate pins really almost negated the full point) and .5 for the price. A solid 4+ rated course in my book.
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Psicko
Experience: 20.6 years 25 played 15 reviews
4.00 star(s)

different than the usual courses in the valley 2+ years drive by

Reviewed: Played on:May 21, 2013 Played the course:once

Pros:

It is a well maintained course that shares a golf course. This course doesnt look like it is busy with ball golfers, especially in the afternoon. Compared to other golf courses in the area it is pretty ghetto, which makes it better for us dg'ers if we dont have to deal with the ball golfers. I didnt see any ball golfers when I was on the course.

Tees were all on concrete except hole 2/10.
Navigation is pretty easy, as all of the dg all tee's are close to the ball golf tee pads except hole 2/10.

The layout is challenging, I wouldnt suggest this place to a new player as there are several water hazards where bad throws will be punished. Accuracy is a must on this course, there is more line shaping needed here than the majority of the other courses in the valley. On hole 9/18 there is a water carry with a tree branch overhanging that can get in the way if you are not careful.

There are big trees which equal a good amount of shade while playing. Good for summer dg here.

Cons:

It is a 9 hole disc golf course on a 9 hole ball golf course. Each tee has two permanent placement baskets, so if you play each pin position on each hole, it will equal 18 holes. There are no dg tee signs, luckily the course is easy to navigate with a map in the "pro shop." Hole 2/10 does not have a concrete tee box.

Other Thoughts:

Even though there are two pin placements for each hole, the different pin placements make the hole play differently, which is good. Only one hole feels similar when playing to A and B pin positions.

I will be back.
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chillis
Bronze level trusted reviewer
Experience: 24.2 years 103 played 29 reviews
4.00 star(s)

Just what the doctor ordered 2+ years drive by

Reviewed: Played on:May 22, 2013 Played the course:once

Pros:

Fiesta Lakes is a beautifully maintained course with huge trees providing great challenge, shade, and scenery. The disc golf course is laid out on an existing executive 9-hole golf course and this means you have all the positives/amenities associated with a golf course.

With the exception of Hole 2, all the dg tee areas are near the golf tees, so navigation is a breeze.

The layout is challenging - with a handful of par 4s, plenty of trees to get in your way, golf greens to avoid (they're OB), doglegs to position yourself for an approach, and water to avoid, there's plenty of obstacles to ponder and overcome. Only two holes (9 & 18) force you to throw over the water. On the other holes with water in play there are options to go around the hazard.

From a safety standpoint: There aren't any conflicts concerning baskets and tee areas being too close. Even wild approach shots won't endanger players on the next tee. Also, there is netting between the holes bordering the driving range to the north-east.

Cons:

Not many Cons to be found. The layout satisfies me enough to where it's hard to find anything wrong with the course.

There's a chance a busy course could become a bit of a hassle as ball and disc golfers vie for spacing. But due to the casual nature of the course this will likely be avoided by simple golf pace and courtesy.

Mixed tees - some are concrete, most are short grass. It would be nice to have rubber mats or something for the tee areas w/o concrete.

Other Thoughts:

Visit the Pro Shop for scorecards and course maps.

This is a great summer course as it provides loads of shade and rest areas.

Although it is approachable by beginners, this course strikes me as more of an Intermediate/Advanced experience because of the water in play and length of the layout.
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