Ok, I gotta wonder about some of y'all that hate this disc. I must say, only throwing it 70-80ft in my yard, that I am in love. I got two, a D 181 and an ESP 178, and really like them from what I've seen. Holds an turn I put on them, or flies dead straight, lots of glide even at low power. I can't wait to try some driving with them. I even liked them for regular putting.
If the Comet and APX had a baby, with maybe a touch of rattler DNA thrown in, that is what this disc would be! The descriptions of "slower comet" seem to be spot on. I'd even add that it's a faster APX.
Saturday, we have a singles round on a nasty-tough wooded private course. I think I may carry only these, no APX's and possibly no Comets, just to really put these through their trials.