I dont think there's anyone at risk of not understanding the point of what you're saying Sheep, but as a long time player and teacher you gotta recognize the difference between scoring and learning.
No player in their right mind who has enough control is going to grab a disc that will put them 30 feet shorter during a scoring round. That's a mental mistake.
Some people are always learning. Sometimes I think these people think they're gonna get on the pro tour as soon as it magically occurs to them how to throw 500 ft. Some people are just in to the mystery of what a disc will do when it leaves their goofy little mitts, and whatever is easy and fun. Its getting sun on their faces and even bad shot shaping is fun. Look at that overhand Tilt kid. He's having a blast.
Lots of us go through waves of how much effort we put in to learning vs scoring. I think people actually competing tend to treat any non-competitive round as practice. The rest of people just decide what kind of day it is.
Telling people they need to always be learning or that they _shouldnt_ throw some particular disc does come off a little gate keepy which I dont think is your intention.
If you're in learning mode, you should take Sheeps advice 100%.
If you're having fun, throw a stiletto or a wolf or a PDGA approved hubcap.
If you're scoring, use the tool that has proven to do the thing you need to do.
It's not a scoring vs learning thing.
Unless the plan is Take the 1 in 5 chances you'll get close enough with the 13 speed because of how wildly you throw it and consider that a success. vs an actual scoring round where you play the 30 foot short shot because it will be in the fairway and you can take the chance at a 30 foot birdy.
The excuse that a few extra feet from a twice as fast disc is a better scoring chance is just a dull argument to me. Because the control isn't there from the people throwing.
Scoring rounds are about playing the smartest shot that you can control so you are in control of your score.
The point being missed, high speed discs are far harder to control. Those players who lean on them for the extra 20 feet don't have the control.
I'm not telling anyone they should always be learning or really telling anyone anything what they "should" be doing.
You can either listen to my opinion/advice, or not. It's up to you. I just don't want to hear you say "I can't do it" when it comes to playing, because the people who dont want to improve and keep playing that game refuse to try and thus will never get better.
This is a forum where we discuss disc golf things.
And this is a thread on why you should be throwing 7 speeds.
I've laid out WHY you should be throwing 7 speeds. It has nothing to do with scoring or learning. It has to do with the fact that you probably got a less than 9 speed arm, and should be throwing 9 speeds or lower. Why? Because your game will improve, your score will improve. You dont have to do any fancy form training, any of that stuff. Just getting the disc in your hands that will make you more successful and throw further with higher control.
But instead people insist that they need that super high speed disc. And.. In the end, thats fine. You play your game.
