XxInnovaxX
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Seriously...if all of the threads are going to die after I post, I'm going to stop posting.
lol once again thanks for the info
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Seriously...if all of the threads are going to die after I post, I'm going to stop posting.
So if you are talking about high-speed drivers, domey will be more overstable irregardless of the plastic.
I also currently throw no Star OR Champ discs, so what would I know?
On a similar and related topic, a friend and I have noticed champ discs seem to be slightly larger diameter than star. anyone else notice this?
On a similar and related topic, a friend and I have noticed champ discs seem to be slightly larger diameter than star. anyone else notice this?
Champ is the densest plastic. It fills out the mold best. As the plastic gets "cheaper" (for lack of a better term) it shrinks more. So as you move from Champ to Star to Pro to DX, you could see small changes in the diameter as you go. There are some molds where the changes are really noticeable.I know the dx discs are always smaller, they shrink more when they cool. If I'm not mistaken, star plastic has some dx in it, so it would make sense that there's some shrinkage there too.
I know the dx discs are always smaller, they shrink more when they cool. If I'm not mistaken, star plastic has some dx in it, so it would make sense that there's some shrinkage there too.
For me it's actually been the opposite with most discs, the champ versions seemed a little more overstable than the star. It might depend on which mold you're talking about though.
I've really been trying to work the non-word "irregardless" into this post for BrotherDave, but I have failed. I will post it irregardless.![]()
Dome is weird. In the slower discs like a Roc, a flat disc is more overstable. In the high-speed drivers, a domey disc is more overstable. Somewhere between a Firebird (which is a pig when flat) and a Destoyer (which is flippy when flat) the effect flips for some reason.
So if you are talking about high-speed drivers, domey will be more overstable irregardless of the plastic. So if you have a flat Champ Boss and a domey Star Boss, the domey Boss will be more overstable even though in theory a Champ disc is more overstable than Star.
Champ is the densest plastic. It fills out the mold best. As the plastic gets "cheaper" (for lack of a better term) it shrinks more. So as you move from Champ to Star to Pro to DX, you could see small changes in the diameter as you go. There are some molds where the changes are really noticeable.
I always heard Star was a mix of Champ and Pro. I've been wrong before, though.
I've really been trying to work the non-word "irregardless" into this post for BrotherDave, but I have failed. I will post it irregardless.![]()
As much as I respect you and love reading your posts, I'm going to have to disagree with some of what you've said.
Most understable
DX and Pro-D
Pro and X
Star and ESP (Star is a blend of Champ and Pro; ESP is a blend of Z and X)
Champ and Z
Most overstable
The reason for this, like you mentioned, is because the more expensive plastics are more dense. Since they are more dense, they are obviously less porous. Porous plastics will act more understable because, in layman's terms, they will "ride the wind" better. Just like how golf balls can fly far because of the fact that they have dimples, a more porous plastic will hold less wake turbulence. This will cause it to slow down...slower. This is also the most likely reason that discs in base plastics reportedly fly further; they have less wake turbulence.
isnt it true though that star is a little bit more overstable than champion? ive always heard this and believed it to be true, but it might just be a myth. Anyone know the truth to this....and if this is true a scientific explanation would be great
First off, no he didn't *snaps fingers*. Secondly, if the premium plastic is less porous than why is it so much easier to get sharpie off of DX than Champ?
My theory on that is that the clear champ plastic just shows the residue better than the opaque plastics after you've taken most of the ink off.
I mean, I can get sharpie clean off DX with a pencil eraser where as with champ and star your best best is the dry erase marker trick but only if the sharpie hasn't been on there long.
Yeah, I feel you. I just conducted a test myself to see if you were bull****ting me and your claim proved true. I can rub ink off my Glo Roc with my thumb, but trying to get it off my ESP Crush takes a good scratching.
It may be that because the base plastic is so porous, there are microscopic bubbles of air that don't get filled with ink, and so the layer of ink is covering a dispersion of small air pockets. Precisely how that happens I don't know, and then you're getting into the chemistry of ink and I know nothing about that, despite being a chem student. That's one thought, though. I'll think about it a bit more...![]()
air pockets? Now who is bull****ting who here?I think I just gave you the subject of your next research paper.
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