DarwinDave
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Hello all! Thanks in advance for your responses. I'm just going to word vomit way too many questions at once...
Regarding keeping the 90 degree angle between the shoulder and upper arm... After reading bits here and there on these forums, I'm curious... when is it acceptable to have this angle less or more (acute or obtuse)? Does it only break open wide after the hit, into the follow through? Or does it become more than 90 before the hit due to the elbow firing through and the shoulders staying a bit behind?
As a visual to where the elbow is in proper BH form, would it be safe to say that correct timing is the same as keeping your arm out completely straight and always 90 degrees to your shoulders, and that the only thing that keeps the disc on a straight line of play is the bend in the elbow?
I had an interesting flaw built up over the years from taking the advice of "firing the elbow through" incorrectly. It got to the point where my elbow wasn't firing out, but rather close to my body, causing all sorts of inconsistencies with a low elbow. I was so determined to "pull through on a straight line" that I developed this weird kink where, in an effort to almost pull the elbow thru on the line instead of a hinge and the disc itself, which forced my shoulder up high near the hit and on the follow through in an attempt to get my elbow more on plane and higher. Anyway, just thought I'd share. I had never heard of a too high shoulder issue until I posted a form critique video on reddit and got served a heaping pile of humble pie![Frown :( :(](data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7)
Back on to 90 degree angles... should the angle of the spine be at a 90 compared to the upper arm as well? Is that the thinking process when people talk about adjusting the spine when it comes to rollers (lean back) compared to hyzers (lean forward)? If so, are there situations that you wouldn't maintain that angle, like throwing a spike hyzer or grenade? Or would you still be trying to maintain it?
Like I said, word vomit. Just pick a part you understand and answer lol
Regarding keeping the 90 degree angle between the shoulder and upper arm... After reading bits here and there on these forums, I'm curious... when is it acceptable to have this angle less or more (acute or obtuse)? Does it only break open wide after the hit, into the follow through? Or does it become more than 90 before the hit due to the elbow firing through and the shoulders staying a bit behind?
As a visual to where the elbow is in proper BH form, would it be safe to say that correct timing is the same as keeping your arm out completely straight and always 90 degrees to your shoulders, and that the only thing that keeps the disc on a straight line of play is the bend in the elbow?
I had an interesting flaw built up over the years from taking the advice of "firing the elbow through" incorrectly. It got to the point where my elbow wasn't firing out, but rather close to my body, causing all sorts of inconsistencies with a low elbow. I was so determined to "pull through on a straight line" that I developed this weird kink where, in an effort to almost pull the elbow thru on the line instead of a hinge and the disc itself, which forced my shoulder up high near the hit and on the follow through in an attempt to get my elbow more on plane and higher. Anyway, just thought I'd share. I had never heard of a too high shoulder issue until I posted a form critique video on reddit and got served a heaping pile of humble pie
Back on to 90 degree angles... should the angle of the spine be at a 90 compared to the upper arm as well? Is that the thinking process when people talk about adjusting the spine when it comes to rollers (lean back) compared to hyzers (lean forward)? If so, are there situations that you wouldn't maintain that angle, like throwing a spike hyzer or grenade? Or would you still be trying to maintain it?
Like I said, word vomit. Just pick a part you understand and answer lol