turbosteve
Eagle Member
Hopefully the DGWT can come back in 2019 because it's important that disc golf can tap into the international market.
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In general, the US audience didn't appreciate not being the focus of all of the attention IMO.
The biggest difference in the tours to me was the caliber of events (which goes hands down to the DGWT in terms of both prestige and organization), and the fact that DGWT insourced its media whereas DGPT spreads it out. The cons for the DGPT is that the viewership isn't in the same league as WT events, but the pro is that Steve pays much less and the audience shoulders that burden on multiple fronts (Patreon, Merchandise, etc.)
When will the disc golf masses realize that public donations are the only way a sustainable tour will operate? This is exactly why Steve and DGPT have the better business model. We all need to shoulder some of the "pro disc golf" burden to get what "we" want.
I never really equated "public donations" and "sustainable" before.
Completely disagree with this. Fans in the USA appreciate good disc golf in Europe, Australia, Japan, etc., as well as the USA. You're really clutching at straws to blame American DG fans for Jussi's failures.
Not arguing here but I'm not sure what subscribers proves other than your brand is twice as old and started as a media vehicle for Innova/DM. I'd be curious to know which channel has gained more in the last 2 years when Jomez first started gaining more ground and both tours came around. That would be probably more telling considering that covers the entire lifespan of both tours. I also know nothing of the media agreements, this is purely my outside observation on the success of both in the past 2 years where Jomez appears to be more popular with most fans as a result of the US focused DGPT.
Oh good lord, extrapolate much?
Jomez and CCDG are both older than SpinTV. We are actually the youngest of all major dg media channels.
Exactly. Did you not get the tongue and check aspect of the post? It is why pro disc golf and we are in quotations.
The majority of people who play disc golf could care less about the professional side of the sport, and the professional side will only exist because of donations in any form.
Registration fees, local advertising revenue, and TD or Ambassador personal equity equate to public donations in my book. All unsustainable and why pro disc golf will never get as big as people hope.
Oh good lord, extrapolate much? It was a simple observation, I didn't say it was the reason the tour is on hiatus..
And your "observation" was both wrong and insulting to American DG fans.
Jomez? Their channel may be older but they didn't start covering major events or anything significant until 2 years ago. You started 4-5(?) years ago with branded product demos when no one else was. Like i said I'd be curious who has picked up more subs the past 2 years. Not that any of this really matters.
And your "observation" was both wrong and insulting to American DG fans.
Aussie Open isn't returning in 2019
We are actually the youngest of all major dg media channels.
SpinTV and the DGWT is the reason why I got back into disc golf after a 10 year hiatus. My perception of disc golf went from a game where smelly hippies would fill up the local course with their marijuana fumes to an international class-act sport. I can't thank European disc golf enough.