First time poster, long-time lurker- RHBH form critque

[jaypay85]

Hi,

Been playing about a 2 1/2 years. Having hard time getting consistency above 320+. Some days throw feels better than others. Typically do 4 finger power grip, but happened to be experimenting with a diff grip.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yttkq_T2IYQ

 

[Brychanus]

Front side is opening up too soon and you are throwing a frisbee rather than bracing to slash or smash something out in front of you:

 

[jaypay85]

Thank you I will start the hammering process!

 

[jaypay85]

updates: throwing comfortably in the 350-380 range, can make it out to 400 on a good rip. Would like to get 450 ideally.

 

[sidewinder22]

You start tipping west/leftward going into your x-step and extend your rear knee/hip instead of sitting/coiling into it. It's probably going to feel quite different/weird at first.

Standstill & Figure 8 Motion Pattern

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The Hips

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[jaypay85]

Really noticed the westward movement, I think it's from learning to "stagger" my stance coming out of the x-step. But I ended up overdoing it I guess. Hard habit to break so I resorted to trying this out, I think it's helped but my cross step is moving north-east direction if north is target wards, then I am "staggering" to far west to compensate.

 

[sidewinder22]

Take your left hand out of your pocket and make a backstroke swim motion with it in the backswing / like walking.

Elephant Walk Drill

Drill to help make weightshift and swinging as easy as walking. This drill really helps on uphill tees or lies like this hole where walking targetward makes it hard to get forward balanced on front leg. If you are walking sideways along with the hill then it is easier to shift forward and...

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[jaypay85]

updates with tech disc I got for Christmas.

 

[sidewinder22]

Your rear leg is pushing/tipping your pelvis/upperbody over top, instead of moving your lower body underneath the upper body to catch in dynamic balance/tilt. Note how Markus rear hip drops underneath front hip so his spine is tilted back inline to front leg. Your spine is landing inline with your rear leg and tipped over the front leg with rear hip higher than front hip.

I would work on this fundamental from standstill or small stride instead of x-step which is just adding extra moving parts. You would fall down the stairs in Swivel Stairs Drill.






Door Frame Drill pt 2

 

[jaypay85]

updates

 

[sidewinder22]

You have no hip depth.

The Hips

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[jaypay85]

Decided to switch it up a bit since my right arm is a little tired from a long round the other day. Grew up playing golf (right handed) so thought it might be interesting to try some LHBH shots.

 

[jaypay85]

update

 

[sidewinder22]

Hershyzer Drills 1 and 2. You are leaning back and leading your stride with your front foot instead of your mass.

 

[jaypay85]

update:
Now I know this doesn't mean better form per se, but it's a big improvement from my previous speeds. Thanks for your feedback/input as usual sidewinder22.

 

[jaypay85]

Updates and thoughts: After getting my distance up to around the 450ft range, I am currently satisfied as that suits my game and age. I am 39 (this month) and prior to coming to this forum for some critiques I was maxing at around 350-370 on good throws. What I have learned thus far...

1. Some of my fastest throws didn't feel like my hardest throws (tech disc numbers)
2. Getting my base arm speed to around 62 has really helped me get to 380-400 a lot easier.
3. Based on my research cracking 500ft is about getting to roughly 68-70mph with great nose/launch angle.
4. If you can get to the 64-66mph range you can get to 430-450 fairly consistently.
5. Nose angle/launch angle are more important than throwing fast. You can get more distance if those two are correct.
6. Prior to this I didnt' throw a lot of stand stills. My X-step wasn't adding a whole lot, in Fact of the matter is you can throw pretty far without it. But once you can get the timing down it's easier to punch the mid 60s with it then without.
7. Getting your left shoulder/back rotated far enough helped me personally with gaining more distance. I think a lot of people just tend to rush through the backswing/reachback/choose your term.

thanks to everyone who shares there knowledge here.

 

[jaypay85]

Have to post this:

Feel is not real, albeit I did throw this right into the ground but to generate that much speed was insane to me. This was in the warm up throwing stand stills 1 leg drill. This drill in my experience will get your base arm speed up. Period. Also as indicated in previous post it felt like I threw it horribly which from an angle/launch perspective I did, but the speed was my highest now on record.

 

[jaypay85]

While doing form work hit a new PR on tech disc speed 76.2 with reciepts! Second throw in video, my focus on what I was doing was keeping my off arm to my side (instead of flaring out) and some foot work parts.

 

[Brychanus]

Nice speed!

Just an overall comment - your form is mechanically pretty horizontal and not getting some of the vertical transition and pressure, which is part of why your rear foot spins out a bit in transition.

I'd probably be spending some time on drills like Reverse Stride, Double Dragon, and Elephant walk to try and address that. You'll probably (1) throw with less effort, (2) clear into follow through more easily/completely/safely, and (3) potentially get a little more peak power due to adding more "length" to the move overall and additional power from gravity in transition. Likely will also help you convert that speed into ballistic full flights that use parabolic trajectories in addition to the disc action in flight. You should be able to get 550'+ at those speeds with improved mechanics.

Either way obviously a very awesome place to be, keep at it!

 

[jaypay85]

Nice speed!

Just an overall comment - your form is mechanically pretty horizontal and not getting some of the vertical transition and pressure, which is part of why your rear foot spins out a bit in transition.

I'd probably be spending some time on drills like Reverse Stride, Double Dragon, and Elephant walk to try and address that. You'll probably (1) throw with less effort, (2) clear into follow through more easily/completely/safely, and (3) potentially get a little more peak power due to adding more "length" to the move overall and additional power from gravity in transition. Likely will also help you convert that speed into ballistic full flights that use parabolic trajectories in addition to the disc action in flight. You should be able to get 550'+ at those speeds with improved mechanics.

Either way obviously a very awesome place to be, keep at it!

I will definitely look at those drills now, I am inching upward to around 63-65 mph as my base speeds for throwing, if I can make it less effort would be great! Thanks for the feedback Brychanus.