I haven't tried any MVP yet, is the shock around a -1/3 for turn/fade, or more 0/3 or -1/2 if you had to give it numbers?
I know the numbers aren't that useful, but it's helpful to just describle the flights in basic terms :\.
Basically if it's just into that overstable range that would be perfect, but if it's more like a TL or something it's just going to overlap on my Cyclone a bunch and I'll never throw it (I do love dat cyclone).
waddleman, if I were going to give Innova ratings to my Shocks I'd say something like 9/4/0/3.5, but the fade tends to be a bit later in the flight than the numbers would suggest.
It's a great disc that I like for power FH shots and headwind drives. Thrown flat and hard it just wants to cruise straight and fade, and has pretty solid glide for how well it fights a headwind.
I have thrown all kinds of Cyclones and they are nothing alike. Even one of the beefy runs of ESP Cyclones will be slower, fade less, and do worse in a headwind.
It doesn't show any high speed turn for me in a stiff headwind. I'm tossing them about 400' BH / 350' FH for reference.