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The River is one of the most weight related to stability variant discs i have thrown. Just a few grams difference on a rivers makes a world of difference for turn and fade.
I have 178g (max weight) Rivers that fly more like eagles. I have 172g rivers that fly more like QJLSs. I have 168g Rivers that fly more like leopards. And i have 164g rivers that fly like nothing else out there, and that is why most people prefer that lighter weight range.
I prefer GL's
After skimming a ton of threads about the Saint, I'm ready to take the plunge.
(For arm strength reference, I throw a 169 Archon around 350' on average 375 or more on a good throw. Not exactly a noodle arm, but nowhere near being a power guy either.)
What I'm wondering is should I pick one of these up in Gold Line or Opto Plastic. I'm eyeing a 174 Opto and a 173 Gold Line. I really want this disc to be a fairly straight throwing, low and long gliding driver for shots with a ceiling. Also I want to be able to throw similar shots, sans ceiling. Long and straight! I have been using an OLD broken in Champ Orc with a flat (think "hot car deformed flat") top for these shots, but the Orc is just not giving me enough glide to keep me from checking out new plastic...
EDIT: I feel like I should add that I'm also not looking to try and hyzer flip a more understable version of this disc. I'd rather throw a nice, hard flat release and let the disc work it's natural line. Preferably a fairly tight helix, or a straight line with a touch of fade at the end.
Any recommendations on weight or plastic? Do I have the wrong idea about this disc?
After skimming a ton of threads about the Saint, I'm ready to take the plunge.
(For arm strength reference, I throw a 169 Archon around 350' on average 375 or more on a good throw. Not exactly a noodle arm, but nowhere near being a power guy either.)
What I'm wondering is should I pick one of these up in Gold Line or Opto Plastic. I'm eyeing a 174 Opto and a 173 Gold Line. I really want this disc to be a fairly straight throwing, low and long gliding driver for shots with a ceiling. Also I want to be able to throw similar shots, sans ceiling. Long and straight! I have been using an OLD broken in Champ Orc with a flat (think "hot car deformed flat") top for these shots, but the Orc is just not giving me enough glide to keep me from checking out new plastic...
EDIT: I feel like I should add that I'm also not looking to try and hyzer flip a more understable version of this disc. I'd rather throw a nice, hard flat release and let the disc work it's natural line. Preferably a fairly tight helix, or a straight line with a touch of fade at the end.
Any recommendations on weight or plastic? Do I have the wrong idea about this disc?
Me too. I have a 175g GL Saint and even though it says "overstable control driver" on it, this disc is not very overstable at all. I would say it might be a touch overstable, just to give the disc some credit. It is still a great disc, though, and glides for days.I have a 175g goldline Saint and it is not even close to overstable. It's actually the easiest disc for me to flip over. My buddy has an opto and goldline and they are both the same, easy to flip. He always saya that he seems to have a bit more control with the goldline though.
After skimming a ton of threads about the Saint, I'm ready to take the plunge.
(For arm strength reference, I throw a 169 Archon around 350' on average 375 or more on a good throw. Not exactly a noodle arm, but nowhere near being a power guy either.)
What I'm wondering is should I pick one of these up in Gold Line or Opto Plastic. I'm eyeing a 174 Opto and a 173 Gold Line. I really want this disc to be a fairly straight throwing, low and long gliding driver for shots with a ceiling. Also I want to be able to throw similar shots, sans ceiling. Long and straight! I have been using an OLD broken in Champ Orc with a flat (think "hot car deformed flat") top for these shots, but the Orc is just not giving me enough glide to keep me from checking out new plastic...
EDIT: I feel like I should add that I'm also not looking to try and hyzer flip a more understable version of this disc. I'd rather throw a nice, hard flat release and let the disc work it's natural line. Preferably a fairly tight helix, or a straight line with a touch of fade at the end.
Any recommendations on weight or plastic? Do I have the wrong idea about this disc?
:clap: I felt the same way!!!After all the words of encouragement, I bought a Pearly White Goldline 175g Saint! Played two rounds of it today, and it was an absolute dream. I've never brought a new disc out to a course and immediately synced up with it like I did with the Saint today. I was averaging 330' with beautiful skips all day.
Give it a touch of hyzer, it would flip up to flat and ride a straight rope with some healthy forward fade at the end.
Flat and it flys a smooth and tighttttttt helix with the softest bit of predictable fade on the finish.
Anhyzer it with enough power and I could get it to turn right for the majority of the flight before gliding to a gentle fading finish.
I literally skipped around like a little girl after a few of my shots. What a gorgeous disc.
THANKS SO MUCH, EVERYONE!
If you're throwing in the 400ft range, I would recommend a DD Trespass. I found it to have a similar line to a Saint only a lot longer.So I know this is a very amateur-sounding question, but since I'm kind of new to Latitude, I was wondering if there was anything that would resemble a longer distance Saint. Maybe something that likes to take a little more height on it's flight with similar sensitivity to release angles...
My favorite thing about the Saint is that I can throw it on nearly every hole by adjusting the angle of release, but for some of the really long holes, my drama-queen Blizzard Katana (149g) gets much farther down range (albeit with a massive dose of lateral movement between its turn and fade). It would be really nice to have a more easily controlled disc to pump max-d with.
Also, I had a Bolt in Test Material 2 plastic... I say "had" because it hit one tree and died. The wing bent down and it became an unpredictable turnover disc. I've tried leaving it in the heat and even the microwave trick to restore it to shape, and I've had no luck. Has Latitude issued a factory recall on that crap plastic yet?