I throw mostly gyro myself.
Just wanted to chime in on the putter situation. I can't believe you've been putting with a soft envy. They feel great in the hand for sure. I have one that I use as a turnover putter (beat the crap out of it). It feels wobbly when I throw it at the chains though. I putter with Envys for a short time before switching over to an Ion. The Ion is definitely the superior putting putter. The Envy is great at what it does, which is being an awesome throwing putter. The Ion feels a lot more like a Wizard or Aviar to me. I found the Envy too shallow to really effectively putt with. I'll still bust out an Envy if I'm making like a 50 foot run at the basket or something. I actually like my putters in plasma. Still grippy but a little sturdier. I'm still fairly new to the Ion myself so I want to give it a try in different plastics. Gonna scoop some electrons of various firmness to try out.
Other than that, get you a Crave, sukka! You ain't a gybro until you have a whole arsenal of craves.
The Volt is my favorite gyro mold. You're already on top of that. Try a few different plastics. If you find a domey proton volt, get it. That thing is so overstable.
Other gyro molds I lean on a lot are the Relay and the Wave.
Thank you for your reply.
Yes that Envy situation as a putting putter. At first I was trying to search if anyone else did this to confirm that this was ok. Now that I am fairly consistant with my putting in the circle I feel the envy is too stable to putt with. I also feel it slips or stays in the hand too long from time to time. But still..... Envy has been the putting putter aswell as the throwing putter I've been most comfortable with.
But Ion is coming like I wrote earlier. If I take a backstep with Ion I'll keep working with my envy.
What comes to other discs.... I have to tell you guys, i have tried absolutely EVERYTHING. I had over 150 non mvp/axiom discs. Already sold almost all of them. Now I have 60 mvp / axiom discs. When you people have recommended me relays and craves I've already been there. But because so many people recommended crave I put plasma one back in the bag. I actually had good results with it but for me it felt overlapping with reactor and insanity. Maybe there is a place for crave or relay. Money is not the issue when it comes to my hobbies. I'm weird with that.... I hope I'm not alone with this.
I also took photon, mayhem,vanish away from the bag since I was unable to use them properly. Now my fastest disc is my insanity which I am able to throw properly. Guess I'll work with my slower discs left in the bag first and leave those distance drivers in the closet before I can throw fast enough for them. Now I am quite certain it will happen this summer.
My mvp in the closet contains:
Electron atoms
Plasma envy
Neutron envies
Eclipse reactor
Volts neutron, fission, havent tried electron one like some of you recommended. These felt way too overstable
Relay neutron
Tesla neutron, relay and tesla felt too overstable for me.
Vanish
Wave
Photons in different plastics
Mayhem
Nitro
Panic
Tenacity
Tantrum neutron plastic each distance driver. I got a lot of these by trading my other discs.
I am thinking I'm quite ready now with my equipment to become better but first I need to get faster.