robdeforge
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Hahaha trolling all of the Karen's out there. Love it.
https://v.redd.it/pub5wv5lvpb51
ok, NOW he's trolling
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Hahaha trolling all of the Karen's out there. Love it.
which rules are unenforceable?
which rules do you routinely break?
Really think the PDGA needs to step in at this point.
And do what exactly? Genuine question here...I'm curious.
The PDGA competition team will typically have more concern with the pace of play where a group is clearly playing too slowly, lagging a hole or more behind the group ahead of them AND with a group or more stacking up on the hole they're playing. The group is considered at fault and potentially chastised by tournament officials, not a specific player, because it means the group is likely not calling time violations for throwing or finding lost discs. In the Preserve final round, Nikko was on the last card and (apparently) not holding up a card behind them (were FPO cards delayed?). If his excess timing bothered the players in the group, it was upon them to call it.
The PDGA can't give a crap about the rules they created. They are unenforceable. Expecting everyone to voluntarily follow silly rules to the letter when no one who cares is looking and there are no consequences is not very realistic. Even expecting everyone to act with integrity by their own lights is asking too much. Some people are bad characters.
I routinely break several rules when playing tournaments, and yet hold absolutely to my own standards of integrity. I trust that there are enough of us playing with the same conscientious philosophy that the competition is fair enough. If cheaters gain an advantage, well, I'm not jealous of their reward.
No form of disc golf is or ever will be a serious matter. If you know this, it's impossible to get as worked up as you pretend to be over its problems.
I'm spotting #14 this Sat.
Maybe I should start a timer when players mark their lie...
I do not know if this is what's being implied here, but I cringe when people say anything like "...cheaters are..." in reference to rules being broken (in general). There are people who genuinely do not know they are breaking a rule, either because they don't know the rule or don't realize they just did something wrong. Sometimes it's a simple brain fart. And yes occasionally they are trying to game the system even to the level of cheating. But to generalize all rule-breaking "as cheating" is beyond oversimplification -- it's untrue and unfair.
It's obvious that this is not my implication. I plainly stated that I willingly, routinely, and conscientiously break several rules. I do not consider myself a cheater.
Rule breaking comes in a few categories: Ignoring pointless rules, ignorance, and cheating. The first group may go forth with my blessing.
Otherwise, I unhesitatingly call penalties on anyone violating most rules, ignorant or not. Getting penalized is a quick and effective way to get unignorant. Being kind and friendly to the people you're playing with makes it easy to call violations when they happen.
But, if cheating does happen, and there are no consequences, I'm not at all concerned. That's between the cheater and their self. I have the luxury of not needing to be taken seriously, and I certainly couldn't care less about the reputation of disc golf.