Fort Worth, TX

Arcadia Park #2

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jlh900
Experience: 16 years 26 played 5 reviews
3.50 star(s)

2+ years

Reviewed: Played on:Jul 23, 2015 Played the course:once

Pros:

lots of different looks at holes... some short some long some wide open some specialty holes. all around good and challenging course.

Cons:

pretty infrequently mowed. plays around too many parks with people who don't play disc golf that get and stand in the way
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hotstang
Bronze level trusted reviewer
Experience: 13 years 452 played 59 reviews
3.50 star(s)

Arcadia Park 2 2+ years

Reviewed: Played on:Dec 27, 2014 Played the course:2-4 times

Pros:

Very large community park.
Great mixture of shots.
Great for distance and rollers.
Good teepads and baskets.
Water hazards throughout to punish bad shots.

Cons:

Very Flat.
Not wind friendly.
Very busy at times. People popping out of nowhere.

Other Thoughts:

Great course for a family many playgrounds throughout. Kids can play while you play golf.
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cbrd
Experience: 10.9 years 28 played 5 reviews
3.50 star(s)

Great long course! 2+ years drive by

Reviewed: Played on:Jul 28, 2013 Played the course:2-4 times

Pros:

- This course is extremely well maintained.
- The hole layout is good and has a decent amount of variance.
- The course is laid out intuitively.

Cons:

- Not really a lot negative about this course.
- It wouldn't hurt my feelings if occasionally they changed the pin location, but beggars can't be choosers.

Other Thoughts:

This is an absolute must play in DFW!
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BigGAC1
Experience: 14.7 years 39 played 29 reviews
3.50 star(s)

Arcadia 2+ years drive by

Reviewed: Played on:Mar 5, 2012 Played the course:5+ times

Pros:

Well groomed and good signage. Has some good opportunities to really grip it and rip it.

Cons:

Flatter than Kansas. Also has about the same # of trees as Kansas. But the trees that are there are well used.

Other Thoughts:

Overall a good course, beginner friendly while still offering a good amount of difficulty and challenge to more advanced players.
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Smickie
Experience: 13.9 years 21 played 5 reviews
3.50 star(s)

Enjoyable 2+ years drive by

Reviewed: Played on:Feb 23, 2012 Played the course:2-4 times

Pros:

1. Usually not too crowded, people here have pretty good etiquette as well.
2. Decent variety as far as distance and obstacles go.
3. Pretty course! The creek is usually running, and wind isn't really an issue except on 3-5.
4. Course is marked well, pretty easy to navigate.
5. Like Aggiegreg said, it's a great course to bring your dog. Pretty open, and lots of water for them to swim in.
6. Tee pads and baskets are in great shape.

Cons:

1. Too easy at times. They should move the pins every now and then.
2. Some holes are really close to the sidewalk, so you may have to wait before teeing off sometimes.

Other Thoughts:

Well rounded course, definitely worth playing. I think they should put out some benches at some of the holes to rest on during the summer when it's 110 outside. Will definitely keep coming back!
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aggiegreg
Experience: 13.1 years 33 played 9 reviews
3.50 star(s)

Great Home Course 2+ years drive by

Reviewed: Played on:Jan 19, 2012 Played the course:5+ times

Pros:

-18 holes
-very nice tee pads and baskets
-requires a variety of shots
-Nice layout with easy to navigate course
-Signed very well
-well traveled
-great place to bring your dog

Cons:

-mostly flat
-can be busy... especially with large groups
-soccer players and observers can get in the way
-not that difficult

Other Thoughts:

This is the closest course to my house. Great home course that you can play a lot. Not the greatest course in the wind due the open nature of the course. Met some good people at this course that were very friendly. This course is playable after the rain, dont have to worry that much about mud. I am always out at the course so look for me.
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SomeChump
Bronze level trusted reviewer
Experience: 33 played 33 reviews
3.50 star(s)

Pleasantly Surprised 2+ years drive by

Reviewed: Played on:Nov 21, 2011 Played the course:once

Pros:

Hard to lose a disc (barring the pond on 17)
Good variation in hole length
Excellent signage, quality concrete on pads, and baskets in excellent condition
Excellent use of available terrain
One of the best courses North of Fort Worth
Grass well-cared for
Easy to navigate (when in doubt, look for worn path in grass)

Cons:

Tee pads too short
Hole lengths not well thought out. For example, a big arm might only have a 120 foot approach and a noodle arm will have a 150 foot approach, but both will have a relatively easy 3, and neither is ever going to get a 2.
Totally and completely flat, but welcome to Texas.

Other Thoughts:

I was pleasantly surprised at this course. After reading the reviews, I wasn't expecting much. Instead, I found several really fun holes. The first few holes are awfully wide open (and long). When combined with no elevation change (and no wind like the day I played), there isn't much challenge other than huck and throw. Some of the later holes, however, require throwing challenging lines to score a birdie. I was disappointed to shoot a 55 after missing 3 or 4 putts I should have hit (922 rating).
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Stiptomania
Experience: 1 played 1 reviews
3.50 star(s)

Beginner's Dream 2+ years drive by

Reviewed: Played on:Sep 22, 2011 Played the course:once

Pros:

With the exception of the 11/15 controversy, excellent layout.
Holes are short enough for beginners.
Not usually overcrowded.
Across the street from my house. :p

Cons:

Soccer players go home. This is America. :D
Can hardly ever play 7 because of soccer practice.
17 keeps eating my discs.
Watch out for the Headless Horseman after dark.

Other Thoughts:

My kids and I really enjoy this course. With a handicap, even the worst of us can enjoy a sense of accomplishment.
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Doupie620
Experience: 14.9 years 12 played 4 reviews
3.50 star(s)

Arcadia #2 2+ years drive by

Reviewed: Played on:Jun 21, 2011 Played the course:5+ times

Pros:

Very Open most of the time...
Little water to deal with
Par 4's and 6's add variety

Cons:

Wind can be troublesome
Some holes have soccer games going on and when you smack a kid with a disc, people get angry for some reason.
Hole #17
Since it is a flood plain...rainy days can be...um...unique
Poison Ivy was invented here.

Other Thoughts:

Like the course...come play it.
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sheamous
Experience: 21.9 years 13 played 9 reviews
3.50 star(s)

Damp, but good 2+ years drive by

Reviewed: Played on:Nov 6, 2010 Played the course:once

Pros:

Well maintained, mowed fairways/greens, nice signage, tucked away in a nice neighborhood, technical as well as long holes to open up on, and set in a nice park. The creek that runs through the course is used well.

Cons:

It's a low lying area, so it is frequently wet and has voluntary ponds that pop up in some areas on the back nine. Though the Tee-pads are are well made and nicely placed they are really short, but most are in this area. The rough is really high, be prepared to have wet socks and pants. The creek that runs through the course get wide and deep in a few spots that are in places which are perfect for gobbling up discs. Lots of park goers on the weekend, so go early to beat the soccer teams, joggers, and dog walkers. The walking paths and soccer fields are all throughout the course and almost part of the fairways.

Other Thoughts:

I really liked this course and I would say the quality of the course was top notch. I would definitely put it on your wish list. Just go early!!! I would suggest getting there at 8:00 - 9:00 am
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goodolrebel
Experience: 14.8 years 30 played 12 reviews
3.50 star(s)

A good Walk on a Long Course 2+ years drive by

Reviewed: Updated: Played on:Jul 10, 2010 Played the course:5+ times

Pros:

I like this course, it's the first course I played(plus I only live 4 blocks away) I like it because it's open and forgiving on bad throws (except 17 but you can pay the kids 5 bucks and they'll get your disk back). The lay out of the course follows the creek most of the time. I've never had a problem with mud but it will get real boggy after a good rain. It's a long course and you get a good work out with the lengths of the course.

Cons:

The Soccer fields on #1 & #7. I throw anyway and just yell WATCHELA! if miss throw. I wish it had more elevation changes but it is in a Flood Plane so your already at the bottom.

Other Thoughts:

I found a Bike in the creek looking for a Disk the last time I played. Most of the times on the weekend a couple of boys will sell you disks they've got out of #17. It was fun playing it during the Blizzard of 2010 This is only my second review let me know on what I can improve on with my reviews
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chingy414
Experience: 22.1 years 61 played 7 reviews
3.50 star(s)

Soccer player target practice 2+ years drive by

Reviewed: Played on:Mar 11, 2010 Played the course:5+ times

Pros:

Arcadia is a huge park with a good variety of shots. This course is a perfect mix of both long and short holes. You will use most of the discs in your bag on this course. There are some wide open shots, and also some shots that require some finesse. If you are a roller thrower, Arcadia is perfect for you. There are a couple of good ace run holes, but you have to earn them. There are nice baskets, concrete teepads, and sinage. You wont need a guide on this course, it is very easy to follow. It also is not nearly as crowded as it seems like it should be. Arcadia is also a very good course to play after alot of rain. There are a few holes that get a little sloppy, but the majority of it stays pretty dry. So when Bear Creek Park is a sloppy mess, head on over to Arcadia.

Cons:

Soccer, soccer, soccer!!!!!! This is a multi use park, but there is no mutual respect going on. It seems no matter where you are, they have to be right in front of you. This can get very frustrating. Arcadia park is also one of the worst courses to play on a windy day. Those long open holes can be a mother. There is also a creek that comes into play on a couple of holes, but if you aren't opposed to swimming, they are pretty easy to get back. Some people might consider the length of this course to be a con. It is a bit of a hike, so bring a granola bar, you're gonna need it.

Other Thoughts:

Overall, Arcadia is a really fun course. Arcadia is the closest course to my house, so I play there regularly. Really worth checking out if you are in the area.
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TxDiscGolfBoy
Silver level trusted reviewer
Experience: 17.9 years 34 played 33 reviews
3.50 star(s)

Arcadia #2 Rundown!!! 2+ years drive by

Reviewed: Updated: Played on:Aug 19, 2009 Played the course:5+ times

Pros:

-All concrete t-pads
-Signs in the works on every hole
-Makes great use of ladscape (creek and spotty trees)
-Long course with holes you can really "open-up" on. Couple holes that can be played par4''s and/or par5's
-Makes for great doubles game
-Beautiful park area surrounding the course with nice trails and surrounding neighborhood.
-Shot variety
-Good windy practice course if you're up for playin' / practicing in strong TX winds
-Nice, quiet course with not much traffic leading to no wait on holes

(the best thing for a hole wait is a hack, among other recreational activities...always have one in the bag along with safety materials)

Cons:

-Could possibly run in to soccer practice being held which might cause you to skip a few holes
-Might have to wait on a few hikers when the weather is nice.

Other Thoughts:

The pros deffinately outweigh the cons here.

Great course with great length. Great to play on a beautiful day. Worth the drive, and a good double-course day in N. Fort Worth would be this course early followed by N. Park being they are so close together.

Makes good used of a creek,
which flows through the entire course, and the trees (narrow fairways on some holes, a few tunnel shots, and single-tree obsticles on the open holes)

Over all a great course to play. Definately worth a drive.

It's a good one.
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strain
Bronze level trusted reviewer
Experience: 15.9 years 42 played 40 reviews
3.50 star(s)

Wide And Open 2+ years drive by

Reviewed: Updated: Played on:Jul 25, 2009 Played the course:5+ times

Pros:

Get ready to pull out the big guns if your going to play this park. Arcadia #2 is a really nice clean and well maintained park. The front nine is mostly wide open with basic long straight open shots. Trees and a creek does come into play on the back nine making it slight more challenging, especially hole #17 with the creek on the left. There are true par 4s and 5s on some holes on the course. The signs are in great shape and give you all the hole information and direct you to the next tee. There are nice concrete tee pads and great DISCatcher baskets that are visible from every tee. The park is very clean and well maintained with trash cans throughout the course. The course flows very well from one hole to the next which makes it easy to navigate. There is mowed paths from tee to the basket which helps out a great deal. The parking is decent but can be packed on a real nice day, otherwise the course is fun to play.

Cons:

Hole #1 and # 7 play along a soccer field and can get crowded on days they have practice or games. The park can get very busy with joggers, dog walkers and kids everywhere roaming in the middle of some of the fairways mostly on the front nine. Bring plenty of water and Gatorade in the summer time here because you are going to need it. There is almost no shade throughout the whole course so it could get really hot in the summertime.

Other Thoughts:

This is a great course to play when you feel like throwing big. It gives you a chance to work on your driving skills. There is not really a huge challenge here, just a long open course but it is still fun to play. Watch out for hole #17 because the creek runs along the side of this hole and there is a possible chance of losing your disc. I'm glad it is one of my local courses with another 18 hole course just a few miles away. Golfers should stop buy and check it out, you won't be disappointed.
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ikirumata
Experience: 2 played 2 reviews
3.50 star(s)

Arcadia Park 2+ years drive by

Reviewed: Updated: Played on:Jul 22, 2009 Played the course:5+ times

Pros:

Quiet Park. Good mix of long open throws and shorter, but challenging throws. Concrete tee off pads. Fairways are typically away from other park users. Good parking. Even though the park has other users, you don't feel like they get in the way. When they mow, the fairways are very defined and easy to navigate.

Cons:

The tee off pads are a bit too short. The rough is very...well...rough and you can spend a lot of time looking for your discs. Be careful of snakes. Some next tees are hard to find, but after playing once or twice, its no problem.

Other Thoughts:

Updating my review after playing more than a couple of times.

Here is a list of the hole notes. I am not a great player, but I feel like I am on my way to figuring out this course. I usually walk away from this course shooting in the high 60s.

In my bag, I have the following:

175g Champion Beast - for long distance drives. Predictable and holds up to wind. Good for getting it down the fairway, but if I put it too high, it has some pretty big fade.
169g Valkyrie - long range straight drives. Versitile, but prone to being touchy. If I throw it too hard, it turns over and goes a long distance in the wrong direction.
144g Shark - Super accurate midrange. If I want, I can throw it really hard and make it turn right (big help for a RHBH)
170g Birdie - Best putter I have used.
150g Orc - never use it. Too unpredictable for me. I usually loan it away, but strangely can't get anyone to throw this into the #17 creek yet.

#1 - first of three wide open bombing runs. Tee off with the beast, approach with the shark, putt with the birdie.

#2 - Shot into a grove of trees. Tee off with beast hoping that the natural fade will put it into or near the grove surrounding the basket. From here, either go for a long putt or a short approach with the birdie.

#3 - Straight and to the left. Use the beast off the tee. Stay right and use the beast's fade to put you into position for either a long putt or short approach with the birdie.

#4 - Second of three bombing runs. Two throws with a beast and either a long putt or an approach with the birdie.

#5 - Third of three bombing runs. Again, crank it with the beast, 2 times. One medium shot with the shark. Finish off with a put with the birdie.

#6 - Basket is across a gorge and to the right. A couple of choices here. Stay to the left and play it safe to go around the gorge or play aggressive and try to go over/near the gorge. Originally, I would pull out the shark to get an unstable shot, but I found that I don't have enough distance on the shark to get it past the gorge. Now, I usually pull out the valkyrie for this one to get a straight, slightly understable shot over the gorge. Follow up with short shot with the shark and put with the birdie.

#7 - Nothing special here. Big throw with the beast and let its natural fade put you in front of the small trees. Long put with the birdie.

#8 - Too many trees on the right for the beast. 2 long throws with the shark and a birdie putt.

#9 - Haven't figured this one out yet. I usually try to drive into the area leading up to the basket, but either end up in the rough to the left, or way past the line of trees to the right. Remember you are throwing downhill. Either way, I usually need the accuracy of the shark a couple more times to get to the basket.

#10 - Too tight for a driver. 2 shots with the shark and a long putt to save par.

#11 - There are some holes that look straight forward, but causes me fits. This is one of them. Probably need to try the valkyrie for a nice straight shot...stay slightly left. Problem with this hole is getting a good angle of attack after the drive.

#12 - In the past, I have tried to shoot a low straight shot with the shark, but I always end up behind the second group of trees. Ill try shooting the shark to the left of the first group of trees and hopefully get a good angle from there.

#13 - 2 long straight shots will get you close to the basket, but the 2nd shot will take some skill to get around the tree limbs.

#14 - Tee off with the shark to get through the tree window. Long/midrange shot to get to the basket from there.

#15 - I like to use the valk here to get behind the big bush. Then tomahawk it over the big bush. If you do it right, it should land a couple feet from the basket for a short put.

#16 - Long hole. I like to thow the valk and put it in the clearing, then make a long throw with the beast to land it near the basket. You may need a short approach and putt to finish it off.

#17 - The fairway on this hole slopes down to the left. This is where most new throwers (RHBH) have problems if they try to shoot it straight down the middle. The disc will carry into the creek. I like to take the beast and shoot a high hyzer around/over the big group of trees on the right. This will drop the disc on to the fairway. From there, I throw the valk at the telephone pole. From there, I approach with the shark and put with the birdie. Respect the creek and you won't throw into it. I have lent many discs to first timers on this course and they end up in the creek.

#18 - Big throw out of the trees. I use the valk here because the natural fade of the beast may put it too close to the rough. Approach here with shark. Short putt.
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FWgrant
Experience: 16.2 years 92 played 6 reviews
3.50 star(s)

Hole Breakdown 2+ years drive by

Reviewed: Played on:Feb 15, 2009 Played the course:5+ times

Pros:

Variety of shots, clean park, new baskets, not as busy as some other DFW parks

Cons:

A first timer might have trouble finding some of the tee boxes on a few of the holes. 2-3, 5-6, 7-8, 10-11, and 14-15 all require a little walking in between but anyone who plays often can guess or assume where it will be. There used to be good signs posted at each hole, some of them have worn off though.

Other Thoughts:

1-Open shot, sometimes crowded from soccer practices. Posted par 4 is silly for a 400 foot open shot.

2-Easy pickup if you hyzer (RHBH) or can shoot straight through the tunnel

3-Shoot nice and straight 300 ft or use the open field to the right for some breathing room.

4-500+ft but has a posted par 5. Pick your shot, you're in an open field.

5-600+ft and another par 5. At 500 ft you have a patch of trees that can get in the way.

6-RHBH needs an anhyzer shot but I prefer to forearm it. You need to get around the patch of trees/drain/creek around the 225 ft mark if you want to par.

7. The fairway has a line of trees to the left, the shot is straight, you can use the soccer field to the right for some leeway on your drive, easy pick up for par.

8. You can hyzer through a narrow lane to the right of the tree in the middle of the fairway or you can anhyzer to the left, or my choice is to sidearm the 300 ft to the basket and hopefully pick up the bird.

9. I recommend shooting a RHBH straight toward the line of trees on the fairway. Your disc needs to start finishing left as it approaches that line and you will be set up for an relatively easy birdie on a posted par 4.

10-Forearm is your best bet here, disc needs to finish right into the clearing for an easy par pick up.

11-Need a good drive here to pick up the par. There is a large clump of trees to the right that can get you in trouble.

12. You can sidearm around (my choice) the large tree sitting in the fairway or you can shoot very accurately through a small tunnel to the right of the tree.

13-Recommended RHBH, drive hard on the right side of the fairway, your disc should be finishing low to the ground to get under the trees into putting range for a birdie try, or drop in par.

14-Short Tunnel shot, sad to say I rarely par this. You can always lay up for an easy par but who wants to do that? Just shoot in straight, you dont need the power or distance here, it's all about accuracy.

15-I like to RHBH a hyzer straight down the fairway and land to the left of the clump of bushes that guard the pin. You can easily sidearm around these shrubs for an easy par.

16-I like to have a hard forearm shot here that finishes back on the straight path. From here you can approach about 200 ft to the basket with a normal backhand shot.

17-Woe is your disc if you aren't careful. I prefer to power drive an understable disc down the fairway, if you turn it over you have nothing to worry about. Hint-don't throw your Excalibur high and with a hyzer, you will have to hope it clears the creek.

18-Elevation will cut your drive a little short but this shot is open and makes for an easy par pick up to finish the game
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Joshua1972
Experience: 15.8 years 15 played 15 reviews
3.50 star(s)

1st time on a Mature Course... 2+ years drive by

Reviewed: Played on:Aug 6, 2008 Played the course:never

Pros:

Wide open on a good portion of the holes making it friendly to a beginner like me. Also some hole that were quite challenging even for the couple of veterns I played with. Overall a good course that has a good mix of easy and difficult holes.

Cons:

A few of the holes had long distances between the basket and the next tee box...
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cc0049
Gold level trusted reviewer
Experience: 21 years 168 played 56 reviews
3.50 star(s)

Long and Open 2+ years drive by

Reviewed: Updated: Played on:May 25, 2008 Played the course:5+ times

Pros:

This is a good course for getting to throw some long drives. Distances on the holes vary from 250 to 670 feet. The fairways are well defined and very fair. The course is well maintained and the grass is usually cut low. The city cuts certain portions of the fairway lower than others to give the course more of a golf feel. There is a practice basket for putting before your round (edit: the basket for hole 2 was stolen and the practice basket was used to replace it...so no more practice basket for now). The creek by 15, 16, 17, and 18 makes a formidable obstacle...17 especially claims many discs. Hole 16 is the most challenging hole out there in my opinion. Great place to work on playing in the wind as it is often very windy here. This course is really good for working on many different aspects of your game. Many holes here offer a variety of ways to get to the pin leaving you with lots of options. You can work on forehands, backhands, thumbers, rollers, you name it. There are not a lot of obstacles to have to maneuver around, but the distances on most holes will test your driving, upshots, and putting. Many of the nearby courses are wooded and more technical than Arcadia, so this is a nice change of pace and really makes you work on your long range game. This course is usually not too crowded with other players making for a nice flow of play. The city finally put out some trash cans. The baskets here are top notch...still very new and have the 24 chains with the big yellow bands at the top making them easy to spot. Concrete tee pads. Great signs on the teebox that give you pretty accurate distances, par, and pin position...although several signs are missing due to vandals. There is lots of room to warm up before your round as long as no one is using the soccer field by hole one. There is also a nice gazebo by hole one for meeting up with others before your round and grabbing some shade.

Cons:

The course is a part of a park that has a lot going on and has a walking trail that winds throughout it, so you have to be wary of pedestrians and kids playing. Most holes are very open, so don't expect much of a challenge in the way of obstacles. Holes 1, 7, and 18 play right beside a soccer course that is almost always in use from around 4:30 till dark. There are only a few holes with trees in the fairway and one shorter hole that is down a corridor with a line of trees on both sides. There is not much shade on hot summer days and not much to block the wind. No elevation changes. No running water or restrooms. The parking lot is also too small for all that goes on in the park. You can also park along the road if you want to start somewhere other than hole 1 and know your way around the neighborhood. The water hazards are not fun to have to mess with if you go in. You definitely want to stay on the fairway here because there are a lot of thorns, briars, and poisonous plant in the trees and brush that line the fairways. There are some tough navigation issues for first timers without a map. To go from hole 5 to hole 6 you have to follow the sidewalk for a ways around the corner. To go from 7-8 you have to follow the sidewalk and then watch for the tee box to your right. Going from 10-11 you skip the first tee box you see and cross the bridge to 11's box. A map would definitely be helpful for your first time out. There are concrete tee pads, which is a major plus, but they are really too short for a decent run up on a course that has a lot of long holes. Unfortunately, a lot of the tee signs are missing. While this is a challenging course and a good practice course, there are not a lot of truly fun, enjoyable holes here.

Other Thoughts:

Playing sidewalk and beyond as OB adds a little bit more challenge to this already tough course. I'd enjoy this course even more if there were alternate pin positions and alternate tee boxes. I play this course a lot because it is close to work. I didn't like it too much the first couple of times that I played it, but it has grown on me a lot. It is a challenging course. If it is your first time out and you are having trouble finding the next hole; a good rule of thumb is to follow the sidewalk. North Park in Haltom City is about 10 minutes away.
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slacker
Experience: 31.1 years 37 played 6 reviews
3.50 star(s)

2+ years drive by

Reviewed: Played on:Jun 29, 2008 Played the course:never

Pros:

Great course for rainy day concrete tees and not alot of mud around baskets. Also has mowed path between baskets and tees that make it easy to find your way.

Cons:

most of the park needs to be mowed more often and several signs missing.

Other Thoughts:

Markers on baskets showing direction of next tee could be helpfull.
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hopper58
Experience: 22.9 years 14 played 11 reviews
3.50 star(s)

Can you rent a Cart? 2+ years drive by

Reviewed: Played on:May 27, 2008 Played the course:never

Pros:

alot of wide open holes to test your arm, course does make for a nice walk as you play, just be ready for the WALK part. the course is very nice and very scenic. very enjoyable experience

Cons:

Well we made a mistake of playing this course around 2 in the afternoon, when it was 93 out....needless to say the long course made for an extremely long course that day......be ready to walk, some basket to next tee walks are lengthy, other then it being a long long course not that many down sides, the par 5 seemed easy until you realized you wre throwing into the wind...An online map might of been helpful to find your way along...but most holes had the tee pad somewhat in sight...maybe hard for first time players to follow
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