Elverson, PA

French Creek State Park

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jamespenn
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Experience: 4.2 years 35 played 36 reviews
3.50 star(s)

If you think it's narrow now.....

Reviewed: Played on:Aug 22, 2023 Played the course:once

Pros:

The tees make the place. They give you such a nice first impression of every hole, along with the handmade wooden signs. Pretty much every tee is slightly elevated, with a frame. They are absolutely level, with a very grippy rubber mat surface. And long enough that most people don't have to start behind the mat. They also have a broom at every tee box, and usually at little homemade bench of some sort.

The new baskets are excellent. The disc sort of just gathers into the chains with no sudden bounces. The baskets seem low to the ground, although maybe that's my imagination. I didn't mind

Every hole you have a choice....do I want to play the short, but still usually difficult basket, or do I really want to torment myself and play to the long basket

While the fairways might be really narrow at times, the rough isn't bad at all. I threw one on number 10 that I was sure I'd never find again, but I just kept walking in the general direction, miles from the fairway, and sure enough it was just laying there in the open. There isn't much in the woods to obscure your disc. It does take a while to get back to the fairway though if you get off line.

If you play the gold course (the longest), just when you think you can't take another gauntlet, the course gives you a break, as if to apologize for brutalizing you for the past 3 holes.

Cons:

Holes 1-3 and then 18 are in relatively open areas compared to the rest of the course, and are the only holes that aren't extremely rocky. It is a tough walk. it's not particularly hilly, but you have to constantly watch what you're putting your foot on.

The short course is all par 3s, to bright pink baskets....except for the holes where they don't have a bright pink basket yet. The older baskets are silver and blend in perfectly to the back ground. The club is replacing them though, never fear!

You can park your car very close to #1 tee. However, when you get out of your car, notice how big the parking lot is and look all the way to the other side. In the distance about a quarter mile away you might see a yellow basket in some trees. That's 18. You're never very far from the parking lot on this course, but that last walk from 18 back to your car near #1 is a bruiser.

Cell phone service is a bit iffy here, so it might be the case your phone won't work once you move away from the parking lot. You'll definitely want a photo of the course map before you head down number 1. The routing is pretty intuitive until you finish #6 It's not easy to find #7 without UDisc, and you'll never find #8 without a map. Hint, turn left and walk about a quarter mile up the road. After that, it's not too tough if you're going it blind.

Other Thoughts:

This is a pleasant, enjoyable place to play some disc golf. It was built in 1983 and it's an old fashioned, well taken care of test of patience. The long course to the gold baskets is tough but not unreasonable and par is a good score on most of the holes. However it's not so brutal that you'll make a bunch of 10s. If you can keep your disc straight and keep throwing it 250 feet down the tunnels, you can make a lot of pars and there's 3-4 holes you have a chance of a birdie. But if you try to gas one a little and get it off line, well, now you've done it. You'll have a shot, but it'll usually be sideways back to the tunnel and now you're staring at a quick double bogey.

None of the tunnels are what I'd call wide and friendly. Hole 18 is definitely the widest hole, as you are finishing up in a little picnic area next to the parking lot, throwing up a roadway. Until then, you are firing it down corridors of various widths, some of which you're sure you can't do (until you do).

As is often the case with courses that are all woods, it can be hard to tell the holes apart sometimes. Every hole is hit the gap, stay in the little fairway, and eventually you'll run into the basket. This place does have some decent variety though and unlike some woods courses, there aren't any nasty surprises if you hit the corridor. Some places leave little pencil thin trees in the fairway, so even if you hit the tunnel line, a 1 inch wide tree you didn't see still deflects you into the rough (For example, Iron Hill)

Here, holes 1-3 are all pretty memorable. 1 is a fun, downhill shot to the left. 2 then confronts you with a massive cliff to fire up, with an easy gap and a hard gap. Which ever way you go, the gold basket is a brutal par 3. Hole 3 is an real treasure...943 feet downhill, down a grassy corridor. I looked at the sign and looked at the 30-foot wide chute and thought maybe I'm in over my head here, but 4 smooth Leopards later, I had a decent look at par which I of course donked.

After this, the holes tighten up considerably and pars are hard to come by. #7 is your first real breather hole to the golds, 240 feet or so with a friendly corridor, just a little gentle curve to the right. After this, the rest of the course is on the other side of the road, near the edge of the parking lot.

Hole #8 is the next standout, an awkward, short par 4 curving to the left. If you throw an excellent 225-foot gentle hyzer down the narrow corridor, that crosses the dirt road, You take the walk of Fame! Everything else will hit a tree and end up in the ditch, where you pitch something across the road and then try to get up and down for par. Like every other hole here, you have to throw perfect shots to have a chance at a birdie, but making par is definitely possible if you're careful.

Another real winner is #12. Your careful play is rewarded here. It's nearly a right angle dogleg to the left, so you have a little more room than you think. The next shot is a very satisfying laser down a gentle slope into a clearing. After being pummeled unmercifully by three very difficult par 3s in a row, #12 is where the course starts to ease up a bit. You'll find 13, 15 and 17 also follow this general template, although 15 and 17 dogleg to the right.

After 17 pretty solid efforts you emerge from the woods to a finale that doesn't really fit in. #18 tee is built on the side of a road, and then you fire one up the roadway into a picnic area. Not that it's a bad hole, it just feels like something to get you slightly closer to your car. At 400 feet, uphill, par 3, it's not the most exciting finale. I'd recommend moving the basket 150 feet to the right and/or, move the tee back down the road another 100 feet and make it a par 4.

The short baskets here, as I mentioned, are all par 3s but you aren't getting any shorter of a walk. The short baskets are all placed on the way to the gold basket. The short baskets are not easy though. There are quite a few tough 300-foot shots. Number 2 is 144 feet straight up a cliff.

I went at 3 pm on a Tuesday, on a nice day, and nobody else was there. Overall, it's definitely more friendly to a right handed player, there are a few holes that curve right though, mainly at the end. And while it is listed as moderately hilly, the only really tough hill to climb up is #2. There are some stairs on the left side of the gap, use them.

I looked on PDGA to get some idea of ratings. There was a tournament there in June that played Odd holes gold the first round, Even holes gold the second round Even par the first round was 966 rated, and even par second round was 962 rated.

Last fall there was a tournament that played the short course both rounds, even par was 924 rated both rounds. The short course is no pushover but I wouldn't hesitate to bring a beginner golfer here. There are no water hazards, and really not much chance of losing a disc although not impossible.

I couldn't find any tournaments that played all gold baskets in the same round, but playing half golds adds 40 rating points to the all short layout, so even par would be about a 1000 rated round on the golds.
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discNDav
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Experience: 37.9 years 437 played 91 reviews
3.50 star(s)

2 baskets on all 18 wooded holes 2+ years

Reviewed: Played on:Apr 28, 2020 Played the course:once

Pros:

2 baskets with one nice rubber tee pad on all 18 holes. The longer baskets have a yellow flag on them while the short baskets do not. An arrow on the bottom of baskets pointing you to the next tee.

The 900+ foot #3 is beautiful and fun to play downhill the entire way, it's the only signature hole.

#12's green - beautiful and open circle 1 putting area with a drop off surrounding it.

French Creek St Pk is a great park, it's free, it's clean and has many other activities available for non golfers. The DG course is definitely challenging and not really beginner friendly.

The longer baskets have a much different line to hit sometimes than the shorter silver baskets, nice design job.

Cons:

The very long walk to start if the upper parking lot (pool area) isn't open. I had to park near the playground in late April and had an idea where to start yet it was still difficult to find #1.

The very tight tee shot on #4, hated it.

The tee shots are rather repetitive, long and straight over and over then a turn to get to the longer baskets. Very few right to left hyzer shots from the tees.

The hike to play this course is not smooth at all, even the main path on most of the fairways have rocks in them. Wear appropriate shoes! #2 is a very steep climb.


Other Thoughts:

I used to play here in the 90's when it was 2 courses and it took me 10 years to finally play this version. It's simply not my preferred style of play, long and tightly wooded holes. Having said that, it was better than I had expected. I'm a tough reviewer, I could see many rating it 4 stars.

"Course Map II" on this site is better than Course Map, use it to find #8 which really isn't easy to find. The rest of the course is easy to follow.

Cell service within the park is generally not available. I came across a golfer trying to find other family members without a cell signal and I couldn't do a Facebook checkin until the drive out on hiway 345.

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Ryal
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Experience: 6.9 years 222 played 184 reviews
3.50 star(s)

Pardon My French Creek 2+ years

Reviewed: Played on:Mar 13, 2019 Played the course:once

Pros:

+ All 18 tee pads here are great! Each one is a stable and sturdy slab of thick rubber anchored atop a bed of crushed gravel housed by a wooden frame. Plus, they are extra long for people like me who take needlessly drawn-out windups.
+ Two pins per hole make for two wildly different difficulty settings, and they are visually distinct. Gold baskets for expert/pro players have an eye-catching yellow flag on top and the silver baskets for anybody else are more readily seen in the first place because they are positioned closer.
+ White wooden arrows are attached to all baskets to guide the player to the next tee.
+ From start to finish, all tee signs are bright yellow for visibility within the woods. They clearly feature the layout ahead with hand-carved and painted planks of wood. The distances to each pin are prominently shown.
+ The venue is peaceful and contemplative. I had the whole course all to myself and felt dwarfed by the immense trees, steep hills, and muffled silence all around.
+ Those hills and trees combine in different amounts at this course. Trees are always around you, and there are a few big elevation challenges.
+ Virtually every tee area has a bench for players to sit and relax as they wait for their turn or just to recover a bit from the strenuous walking.
+ Hole 7 ends right next to the parking lot in case a player needs something from their car or has to leave early.
+ The parking lot is enormous.

Cons:

- Every single hole takes place in the woods, which means no real chances to let rip at full power. And with nothing really memorable outside of the occasional elevation shift to differentiate the holes from one another, they felt very interchangeable. Very little about the course sticks out in my mind.
- Why don't the tee signs have pars on them for the two pins?
- Some of the fairways seem a little too constricted in my opinion. Holes 4 and 6 jump to mind as examples of that.
- Most holes are flat or, more accurately, the elevation shift is gradual enough to make them feel and play flat.
- Any slight deviation from the fairways leaves little to no chance for a recovery. The course is quite unforgiving with the density of its forest.

Other Thoughts:

Before I go any further, I'd like to make it known that this review is based upon my experience with the long layout (golden baskets).

My favorite hole at this course might have to be hole 17. It was a nice downhill glide with a wide tunnel that felt equal parts fair and challenging. My least favorite hole here might be 6? It's hard to be sure when they feel like different variations of the same hole.

But as for the course in its entirety, French Creek State Park is a great place to train for wooded disc golf. Every throw needs to be spot-on, or you'll have a tough time fighting out of the rough. This is the kind of course I wish I had regular access to. And maybe I ought to have played the silver layout for my first time here. It certainly would have been easier. I could tell that I would have made par on most of them, but I won't be back this way for awhile, and I wanted to have the full experience. So, golds it was!

The tight wooded corridors and occasional elevation obstacle force the player to get better on the spot. It would certainly provide excellent training for the disc golfer to deal with just about any wooded course out there.
It is a double-edged sword, though, because there is absolutely no wiggle-room. One error, and you've got an instant bogey at best. But something tells me that's the whole point.

Wide open courses challenge the power players to throw their farthest each time. Courses like this one challenge the precise players to throw intentionally each time. But even when a player goes in equipped with this knowledge, it is no less frustrating to smack into the skinniest tree in the whole forest fifty feet away from where you just were. I hope the squirrels will forgive my choice of words during such times.
And it's rinse repeat, really. Holes 1 through 18 are different plays of wooded disc golf. Some tunnels are wide, others narrow. High ceilings, low ceiling, a few no ceilings. Left, right, center. Uphill and downhill. It's all here in different combinations deep in the woods.

Bottom line: French Creek State Park has a very good disc golf course that excels at forcing the player to plan ahead instead of just throwing for maximum distance. Such an approach will get the player into trouble. Sometimes, it is best to break up the hole into digestible chunks.
If you find yourself at French Creek, forget about flinging your furthest and instead have fun dealing with the immediate things in your way.
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The Valkyrie Kid
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Experience: 45.9 years 1562 played 1507 reviews
3.50 star(s)

The World’s Largest Disc Golf Parking Lot! 2+ years

Reviewed: Played on:May 5, 2018 Played the course:once

Pros:

French Creek State Park is a huge state park where one the main attractions seems to be this humongous swimming pool. Actually maybe, some of these parking spaces might be for the swimmers. The disc golf course seems to e painstakingly well taken care. Someone cares about this course. At the start is a kiosk complete with map, info, etc.

The tee pad area is pretty amazing. Besides the benches at just about every pad, the rubber mat tee pads are a thing of beauty. They are "absolutely center plum level." I think some person used a level to make sure every pad is perfect, not a dimple on any of them. Plus many of them are surrounded by a perfect crushed gravel border and then a board. And a broom to sweep as needed. The yellow tees signs are hand written but easy to read. Each hole has two baskets, the longer championship Golds and the more intermediate Silvers. The Mach II baskets have the next tee arrows hanging below. The Golds play much longer and with these tight wooded lines, can sometimes make for treacherous, dangerous holes. An extreme example is # 3. It's a fairly simple 295' hyser to the Silver but a whopping 930' to the Gold baskets. That's has to be one of the biggest discrepancies between the Long and Short on any hole in the disc golf world.

No one hole completely blew me away. Rather, they are a series of wooded, technical holes not really ridiculously but more along the line of fair. There's always a line available. Hitting it is up to you.

I was kinda impressed with the bench on # 17. The back rest is composed of old tee signs from holes 2-11-12-18.

Another benefit here is there is no entrance fee for the state

Cons:

Not enough available parking.

I did see a bottle cap and one plastic bottle deep in the brush. They really need to work harder keeping this course clean.

Not much elevation.

No water hazards.

Doesn't have that one memorable hole or basket placement.

Other Thoughts:

French Creek is a beautifully maintained course that with the use of two baskets is like playing two different courses. It would make for an interesting tournament format playing one round Silver and the next on the Gold baskets. Might separate the men from the boys. I could have nightmares playing some of Gold basket holes.
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jjtwinnova
Gold level trusted reviewer
Experience: 8.8 years 246 played 97 reviews
3.50 star(s)

All Gold Everything 2+ years drive by

Reviewed: Played on:Nov 18, 2017 Played the course:2-4 times

Pros:

I played this course blind, in a tournament, all gold baskets, and in the middle of a hot summer day.

And I loved every second of it.

French Creek is a perfect example of Pennsylvania woods golf, with magnificent rock structures, thick trees and punishing rough. Every hole winds through the forests withing the wooded walls of French Creek State Park.

The rubber tees were the best of the kind that I have played on, because even after a slight rain the day before, they stayed very grippy allowing for safe drives when you need both power and accuracy.

The baskets were older Mach III's that caught well, and with two per hole, you have a large variety of layouts that are available to play!

The design of the holes was amazing, as you were throwing shots around all different trees and rocks, with different lines to hit on every hole. You played up hills and down the hills, and with left turning and right turning shots.

Navigation was quite easy, with some signs to lead you down the mostly well marked paths, and the flow of the course was well done, with no holes leading to a super long walk afterwards.

The rough was clear, and the lines were there, even if they were small. You had a lot of different ways to get throughout the hole and escape with a par, and if your lucky you could get a birdie, as some of the holes are able to be gotten!

Cons:

There is nothing too major that keeps this course from turning into a true destination, but maybe within the next couple years, we could dust off the old gem and turn it into a diamond.

The Mach III's are fine baskets, but when you have tight lines through the woods, an extra color could go a long way towards fixing any navigational issues. Maybe even new baskets?

Tight lines through the woods are some of my favorite holes in disc golf, but some holes led to me being very angry, with many trees causing severe problems for the less skilled player.

Also, tight lines on every hole can lead to some repetitiveness, which there isn't a whole lot of, but there are some holes that seem similar to each other. The design is well done, but there are a few holes that are just the same throw and pray type shot, especially for the shorter silver holes.

The gold tees are hard. Not a con, but more of a warning if you are hoping to come here and shoot under par, you won't, unless you are somewhere in the 1000 rated range.

Other Thoughts:

I really enjoyed the course at French Creek State Park! A lot of tight fairways and sneaky lines lead to a fantastic course, a course that I could see becoming a true destination along with the other fantastic courses in Eastern PA!
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wookieebeck
Experience: 10.8 years 72 played 3 reviews
3.50 star(s)

Newer Review to Show Course Progress 2+ years drive by

Reviewed: Played on:Jul 2, 2015 Played the course:once

Pros:

Teeboxes look brand new. Very nicely maintained. Good new signs with both baskets easy to find. Download the course map from DGCR and you are all set.
There is one teepad and two baskets per hole (long and short). Fun to play.

Cons:

Rocks. Not just mountain stones (which there are alot of), but the grushed gravel in the fairways is not cool. To keep the weeds down, mulch would have been better here. Giving your discs road rash on every throw is just not right.

Other Thoughts:

It is the woods. Getting off of the fairway can lead to some thick underbrush.
Very pleasantly surprised with the cleanliness and upkeep. I will make many return visits.
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xjwigluszx
Experience: 9.1 years 7 played 3 reviews
3.50 star(s)

Beginner's Perspective 2+ years drive by

Reviewed: Played on:May 17, 2015 Played the course:once

Pros:

The course is really well maintained and have good tee pads. Being almost entirely in the woods makes for a very fun and scenic round. Another positive is that despite being heavily wooded, French Creek lacks the brush and bushes making disc finding relatively easy. Also some fun variations of holes with some fun hills both up and down early on. Fun enough to offset the frustrating aspect of the difficulty level.

Cons:

The biggest con about French Creek is the lack of directions after holing out. If not for playing with an experienced friend, I may still be looking for hole 8. Only other real complaint is the 'silver" baskets are sometime hard to locate from the teebox, the simple orange tape around the post isn't always enough and you really have to look. Not an actual con, but as a beginner this course is very challenging. Some holes can be downright frustrating.

Other Thoughts:

This is a really technical course that's really hard to negotiate. But despite the frustration from playing, the course is a lot of fun to play, even as a beginner... because your more experienced friends will probably be slamming trees as well. Definitely go out with someone whose played before to work as a guide because the next tee isn't always given.
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revans1009
Experience: 10.6 years 13 played 3 reviews
3.50 star(s)

Super challenging for new player 2+ years drive by

Reviewed: Played on:Apr 13, 2014 Played the course:once

Pros:

Super technical and doesn't take a big arm to be effective.
Beautiful area and vast layout were extremely well maintained.

Silver and gold baskets play like two different courses and offer variable layouts, keeping it very interesting.

Cons:

Super technical. Yes, pro and con. You simply have to focus on clean technique as trees abound everywhere.
I would have been completely lost from hole to hole if not for a great group of others leading the way.

Other Thoughts:

This was a very tough outing for me personally but I really appreciated the course.
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Improbably
Experience: 17.8 years 56 played 5 reviews
3.50 star(s)

Almost entirely positive 2+ years

Reviewed: Played on:Nov 17, 2013 Played the course:once

Pros:

This course requires both accuracy and distance on every single hole. That's a good thing.

Cons:

I hate flymats! I can't stand flymats! I loathe flymats! All kinds of flymats! I hate black flymats! I hate green flymats! I hate flymats with brooms! I hate flymats without brooms! I hate them sanctioned and non-sanctioned! I hate flymats in bunches, one at a time, or playing in groups of twos and threes! I hate flymats!

Other Thoughts:

Parking situation is unfortunate in off season. I blame DNCR the course designers routed it well.
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Fishfood
Experience: 23.1 years 25 played 9 reviews
3.50 star(s)

Seasoned Disc's after 18 holes 2+ years drive by

Reviewed: Played on:Aug 26, 2013 Played the course:2-4 times

Pros:

18 holes of wooded elevation change, dual baskets on most holes, rubber tee pads, good tee signage, bring your seasoned discs, b/c if they aint chewed up....they will be after a couple rounds..it's rocky.
Brooms at every tee pad...two thumbs up!
I had a blast playing here while camping at French Creek Campground. Well worth taking a trip to this fine PA park.

Cons:

First time I played here I had a hell of a time figuring out where the next hole was when playing the long baskets. I don't think there was any signs directing you where to go. Even log lined paths would be helpful.

Other Thoughts:

Great course and fun to play multiple rounds. Besides disc golf, this park offers many activities for the family, so if they don't play, there's so many other activities to suit their fancy.
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sidewinder22
Diamond level trusted reviewer
Experience: 17.8 years 302 played 198 reviews
3.50 star(s)

Pardon my French 2+ years

Reviewed: Played on:May 26, 2013 Played the course:once

Pros:

18 heavily wooded holes with nice dual tees and baskets providing a variety of distances and challenge of left, right and straight shots. The available elevation is well utilized. Surprisingly little underbrush for such a wooded course. Great signage and navigation for the most part. Seems to be well maintained and gets a good amount play from beginners to seasoned vets. Disc golf only area of park. Bathrooms and water in parking lot by pool.

Cons:

Not much. A couple chuck and hope shots off the long tees. A few holes play a little close to roads, and other holes. Poison Ivy rough on a couple of the back 9 holes.

Other Thoughts:

I had a bon moment(french for good time) during my round on the long layout at French Creek. The state park is fairly big and has lots of other fun activities, and the course is in it's own secluded area for the most part. Hole 3 was my favorite. There is everything from an ace run to hope I get a 5. Off the fairway is tough to make any recovery shots from and the fairways aren't very big to begin with, but finding discs off the fairway wasn't much a issue. If you don't like playing in the woods you'll think the French are a-holes. There is some repetitiveness being in the woods the entire time and not much room to air anything out. Control and staying in the fairway is the name of the game. I was a little surprised there wasn't much elevation on the course, but there's not much that can done about the land provided. A little tricky finding hole 1 and 8, but after that it's smooth sailing from hole to hole for the most part. I don't recall any long walks playing the long layout, most were fairly close. The GPS coordinates on here took me to the lake not the course. Follow signs all the way to the pool and park there, then walk uphill to the far corner of the lot for hole 1. I'd recommend Frenchy to anybody that likes the woods and with Camp Sankanac fairly close it makes a pretty sweet duo to play when you can.
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kafbucks
Experience: 5 played 5 reviews
3.50 star(s)

Good course to play 2+ years drive by

Reviewed: Played on:May 18, 2013 Played the course:once

Pros:

Nice Course good. Good layout. Some parts were really challenging. Nice bright yellow signs for the holes lead me right to the next one every time so navigating through the course isn't that bad. There are two holes a silver for more casual or amatures, and there are gold holes for better players or pros.

Cons:

Where there's good there's usually some bad and this course is no different. In other reviews some users made the point that there isn't much variety in the holes well that's unfortunately true, it's a very nice course just be prepared to hike through woods...woods and well more woods, I would've liked to see some variety like hills or water for a better challenge. Also that was the second time I went french creek for disc golf, but the first time I couldn't find the course at all, I went to the office to ask but they were closed for the day. I had trouble finding it this time as well and when I went to the park office again they were closed, but the hours said they were open from 8 am to 4 pm, I arrived at 10:30 am, not really a fault on the course, more so a fault against the park. I did finally find the course, if you go though just keep in mind you go down the road to the right of the office and follow that about a mile or 2 down and you'll see the first hole on the right. So they should add some signs for cars pointing to the disc golf course because they have signs for almost everything else except disc golf, they do have disc golf on the map, but it doesn't really help because that's where the course was before they moved it. Also signs to the next tee would be nice, I know I said navigating through the course wasn't so bad but there were some holes that I had trouble finding like # 8 the next tee is usually somewhere near the gold hole but that one wasn't even close. Lastly and this really isn't a major problem, but I can't ignore it either. on the holes I didn't see what the par was on any of them. They could be there and I just didn't see them so that didn't effect the rating, however there were also no score cards and that would've definitely been nice to have that and a map of the course layout on the back.

Other Thoughts:

Overall this isn't a bad course. It's good for beginners and pros. but if your a beginner or intermediate like me i'd suggest playing the silver first to get to know the course, because at some holes the gold isn't far off from the silver, but in others its a major difference. (hole 3 for example has about 250' to the silver and over 900' to the gold) oh and also when you play this course you may want to park on the other side of the parking lot from hole 1, because 18 is way over there and nowhere close to hole one. However if you enjoy long walks you wont have a problem
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sloppydisc
Diamond level trusted reviewer
Experience: 15.4 years 201 played 147 reviews
3.50 star(s)

PA woods and rocks! 2+ years drive by

Reviewed: Played on:Nov 8, 2011 Played the course:once

Pros:

Nice wooded course in a large State Park. Very nice tee pads with rubber mats. Installed very well, and plenty long for any run up. Flat and smooth. No lumps, bumps or problems. Signs at each pad showing both basket positions and flight paths, as well as distances. Silver baskets play short, and golds play long. Sometimes really freaking long.

Course is well secluded from other park users and trails.

Well defined fairways. Also there is very little under growth if you get off the fairway. Not a lot of weeds or thorns to deal with.

Nice choice between a typical wooded, technical course, or playing the Gold baskets, and playing a long Pro level course. Golds play over 8200', and will put you on a course much like Nevin in Charlotte, Nockamixon or Iron Hill.

Decent variety of left and right shots. Course doesn't really favor a particular throwing style.

Cons:

Baskets can be difficult to see in the woods. Golds weren't too bad, but Silver was hard to locate in the trees. Could use some bright colors to help out.

Navigation fooled me a few times, but that may have been due to heavy leaf cover on the ground. There was some walkways that were probably more visible inn the summer. Might need a few signs or arrows for fools like me. Print the map, and you'll be fine.

No real exceptional holes or shots that are unforgettable. A little elevation is used, but there appeared to be some land available that could have offered some nice up or down hill bombs.

Other Thoughts:

I enjoyed a nice round on a perfect 70 degree November day in PA. Course was just about completely wooded, but not overly tight. Hit some very fair lines, and you'll play well. A few holes were tight, but not brutally so. The under growth was almost non-existent so even if you're off your game, you can save par on most holes. This was a very good course, but lacked the wow factor I kept waiting for. The park has a nice lake, lots of rocks and so e decent hills, so I kept expecting some unique or exciting holes. They just never happened. But there was also no bad holes here. Just 18 nice, wooded holes with a short position for us humans, and a long positions for the poor fools that want to throw 450-900' shots through the woods. I would definitely recommend this course if you're close by. It it well kept, and offers two versions for different moods or skill sets.
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gauma369
Experience: 18 years 20 played 3 reviews
3.50 star(s)

2+ years drive by

Reviewed: Played on:Jun 25, 2011 Played the course:2-4 times

Pros:

-Two pin positions (gold/silver)
-Good signage
-Well maintained
-Benches
-Rubber tee pads
-Well defined fairways

Cons:

-Very tight wooded holes
-Gold pins are very tough and long
-Lots of bugs
-No water in play

Other Thoughts:

I just finished playing my first time played the gold pins first and went back and played silver pins right after. Overall very well maintained course. I enjoyed playing and would recommend and come back to play again. Although I listed no water as a con it doesnt bring down the overall rating of the course but would have been nice to have a hole or two that had water in play. I love wooded courses that are challenging and this course is def. both wooded and challenging. As others have mentioned an orange flag on the holes would help out a lot with spotting the holes from the tees which is some times very difficult. A 'next tee' sign would be helpful between 7 and 8, luckily there was a group teeing off hole 1 which helped me to find 8 tee. Very challenging course with very tight almost impossible fairways make playing gold pins frustrating at times. I am no pro so some fairways were almost impossible to stay on. If you are more of a recreational player I would def. recommend playing the silver holes although much shorter still a nice course and difficult.
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swatso
Diamond level trusted reviewer
Experience: 15.7 years 755 played 414 reviews
3.50 star(s)

Rough Yet Refined ... And A Bit Repetitive 2+ years

Reviewed: Played on:Jul 17, 2010 Played the course:once

Pros:

Two baskets per hole. Fantastic rubber tees - long, wide, flat, graded. Very good, easy-to-spot signs with distance and location information. Bathrooms on site.

Cons:

Some baskets, especially the shorts, a bit difficult to spot from a distance - an orange band on the vertical pole would help. Basket-18 a bit far from tee-1.

Other Thoughts:

Course plays in three wooded portions, separated by a parking lot and access roads, of a very large, multi-purpose park. The trees are tall and thick, the shallow tree roots are plentiful, and there are many rocks scattered about (i.e. the "rough"), but the course is very well manicured, too (i.e. the "refined"). Many of the walking and/or throwing paths are lined with downed limbs, and have mulch or crushed stone on them. Several of the baskets are nicely landscaped - a retaining wall here, some crushed stone there, surrounded by mulch and encircled by downed limbs, that sort of thing.

Perhaps it is because I played to the short baskets, but the course seemed a bit repetitive. Nearly 80% of the holes fall into the 200'-300' range, and about that percentage could be described as flat/minor elevation change, with somewhat-tight but fair throwing lanes defined by very tall trees (i.e. playing amongst their trunks, vice branches posing a problem), mostly-straight early with a turn (left/right mixture) needed towards the end. All very fine holes, in-and-of-themselves, but after awhile, it is like having your favourite pizza for multiple meals in a row - still enjoyable, but you're interested in having something else after a few rounds.

Other than #2-long, and #3, which play along a broad, grassy path with a bushed-filled slope on the left, the chance of disc loss is fairly low, as the undergrowth is fairly thin. The course is a bit easier to navigate if playing to the long baskets, as most next tees are more naturally found from them, and the map is useful in helping you determine which way to go when the way isn't obvious, which it typically is.

French Creek is yet another example of the very fine Pennsylvania park system, and the course is quite good and well maintained, as are the other courses found in the other State parks.
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Tolbert
Silver level trusted reviewer
Experience: 18.9 years 341 played 32 reviews
3.50 star(s)

French Creek Reborn 2+ years

Reviewed: Played on:Aug 8, 2009 Played the course:5+ times

Pros:

From the ashes of Pleasure Mtn and Doggy Woods comes one beast of a course. The 36 baskets were combined to make a 18 hole, 2 baskets per hole course. The silvers (shorts) are a nice par 3 wooded course with many tight, technical shots, but nothing too overwhelming. Most holes under 300 ft. The golds (longs) however take the game to a whole new level. Tight, technical wooded shots still yes, but now long and many of them multi-stage. By this I mean there are only 2 golds you can drive to the basket on, most you play for the fairway to set up you 2nd (and 3rd) shot to the pin. Several holes have fairways the make 90 degree and hairpin turns. The hole design (which feels safari at times) and the heavy woods and a bit of elevation change make for some true par 4s and 5s. Needless to say, making smart shots and playing for the fairway is a good idea here, one errant shot off a tree will leave you with no hope at par.
French Creek also offers some nice features and creative pin placements. Short rock walls line some fairways. A couple pins sit atop rock cairns and a few pins are protected by log and branch barriers.
Course navigation is easy, with the exception of 7 to tee 8 (up the hill a bit, on the side of the road, you passed it on the way in) and the bright yellow posts that serve as tee signs are easy to see through the trees.
Benches are available on most holes and a good thing, you'll do a bit of walking here, especially playing the golds.
The ground here offers a bit of a challenge as well. The terrain is rocky and uneven. A shot that lands in the middle of the fairway can still leave you with questionable footing, forcing you to stand and deliver.
Tee pads are rubber and brand new and along with these its easy to see a lot of hard work has been put in here. Greens are trimmed and often mulched (different color mulch too) nice stone steps built and lined pathways. The club has been putting in some good hours here.
Speaking of those 36 total baskets and work by the club, the course can be played in a short hole 36 pin layout. For each hole throw to the silver and then find nearby on the ground find some painted green markers (usually rocks) throw from this 'tee' to the gold pin. The green markers are easy to find and utilize the fairways you already use. If you've played the course a couple times, you probably noticed some already. And just like that, 36 hole course.
There are not any other courses in the general area (at least, not 18 holes) so having the multiple playing options is great for the locals.

Cons:

A few of the fairways, little more than just walking paths, can be brutal. Holes this long and heavily wooded can be very frustrating when your disc is deflected 30ft off the fairway.
The large, bright yellow posts that are the tee signs are a good idea, but leave little room for a hole map. The golds are so long and sometimes make such dramatic turns, this is just not illustrated on the posts.
Be prepared for a long uphill walk to the car after finishing. it almost makes sense to park in the middle of the large, tiered lot to split up the hike.
Towards the middle of the back 9, the holes get a little bit repetitive. Long heavily wooded shots. This isn't a critique on the design, the park is like that and this was the land available. Its just a feeling I get from it and I'm a big fan of variety.

Other Thoughts:

I like what I see here and having been seeing it more and more in courses. The availability of short, faster play course on the same location as a tough pro level course. The silvers are a fun, fairly stress free 18 and good for beginners, I had a great time playing them. I love the golds, tough holes with no mercy that will challenge any level player. It was a shame when French Creek had to shut down its 2 courses, but the new layout is a serious upgrade. I look forward to coming back and seeing the great work the local club continues to put in here.
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