Holland, MI

Paw Paw Park

3.635(based on 23 reviews)
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MisterJ
Experience: 7.7 years 36 played 22 reviews
2.50 star(s)

Nice Design - But Mother Nature Adds Too Much 2+ years drive by

Reviewed: Played on:May 17, 2017 Played the course:once

Pros:

Aesthetic - Like the description, it plays on an old ball golf course, which has aesthetics. Especially the front half of the course, but if you rush thru and don't stop to admire you'll miss some, like the boulder waterfall in the river just beyond hole #3. Some of the most gorgeous holes I've seen in a while are in the middle of the course, 8, 9 and cap'ed at 10 on the peninsula. Once you get past those, it does get a little drab.

TeePads/Baskets - Teepads were in great shape, and basket were as well. If the baskets had better markings to be seen a bit easier that would help, but they were fine.

Signage - these were very nice, telling you all about the hole, and where, and trees on the course (of sorts). Very nice signs indeed.

Variety - so much variety, dogleg left-right, uphill, downhill, blind drives, open, technical, tunnel, water, tight placement water. Someone took a lot of time designing this.

Congestion - We went during the week, in May, during the day. Not a soul in sight, and foot traffic didn't look high. Some fairways didn't even look traveled and some approaches looked untouchedl. Not sure how many people come here.

Locatability - Great maps, good signs, easy to follow, yes, all good stuff for this.

Maintained/Bugs - No bugs for us in May, I am guessing it will get there though, with the marshy/muddy areas. Most of the fairways seemed well kept, but some had almost knee high grass making trouble for even a good drive to be found. But I still have to say this is good. No garbage, maybe because of no visitors.

Cons:

Challenge - There is a lot of challenge on this course. You have to come back to risk versus reward. Perhaps we came at a bad time in May, so some areas of the rough were new creeks / marshes, which isn't very fun and added more risk to holes. And some of the rough was a bit too rough. Plus, this area was designed for a ball, so it was really and wind doesn't affect a ball as much as a disc. We saw winds howling on some holes, and other times I played the wind and a sleeper set of trees blocked the wind and left my disc out to dry. So I would say the weather bumped the challenge up way too much, wind, additional water beyond the water, the course was designed to be hard, this put it way too extreme, especially 50mph swirling gusts that actually knocked the disc out of my and I'm trying to drive with water all around me.

Fun - I am putting fun as a CON, because I think more people would not like this course than would. The biggest thing in fun is the challenge, and you read what I said on that. Perhaps it was the day we went, but with the wind, the additional water hazards, first time and not knowing exactly where to throw especially on the blind drives, not that great. My wife, she didn't play more than half the course.

Other Thoughts:

Whats holding it back from higher rating - I am just not a big fan of the design, and maybe this is like Novocain, just gotta give it time, keep going (but I don't want to). How do you stop the wind on the open areas, or clear up the rough some... I think it is what it is. All the rest of the course that could have been easy to fix is already in great shape, like I said, I think the design is really good.

Kid Friendly - It's a pretty long course to get thru, with not much else to do for kids. With all the water hazards and then add some wind, this may not be the place to take them

Older/Less Active Player Friendly - Definitely no, way too long, too much elevation changes, thick grass, and exits back would be too long.

Rookie & Average Player Friendly - Do NOT go by yourself, need a spotter for too many holes, or to look around for where the basket is or find your disc. But if you have some buds, there is plenty to work on, and seeing an old ball golf course, and seeing some of the aesthetics could be good. But not tops on the list.

Pro Player Friendly - If you scoped out the course first, I think Pro's could have a good time here. There are a lot of things to work out, good challenges and the risk versus reward is a good payoff and I think the obstacles would be as great for you.
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Reniger
Experience: 21 years 49 played 11 reviews
2.50 star(s)

Great Ball Golf - Bad Disc Golf 2+ years drive by

Reviewed: Updated: Played on:May 26, 2015 Played the course:once

Pros:

*Great Signage*
Very nice big sign at the parking lot showing full layout of pads and baskets, bike paths, walking paths, intersections, bridges, water, ect. As well as beautiful signs at each hole. Honestly some of the best signage I've come across.
*Challenging*
Good mix of long and short hills, good use of elevation and water to mix things up. Very rough off from fairways punishing errant throws (more on that later)
*Well Groomed Fairways*
When I was there this weekend it looked as if it was just mowed. The fairways were very clean.
*Long Concrete Pads*
No worry about 4' shorts, these are nice full-length pads in good shape.
*Scenery*
Beautiful course (obviously an old ball golf course) with plenty of woods, a couple nice streams, a good sized pond and well maintained benches and bridge
*Professional Feel*
Professional feeling ball golf course, but, I do not feel this lends well to discing...

Cons:

*Overgrowth*
While a golf ball is intended to fly straight, a disc (as we know) must flex right to left/left to right to achieve max distance. This course is laid over an old ball golf course meaning that the fairways are usually 20-25' wide with 3' tall grass, thistle, thorns, burrs and rhubarb to hide your disc. I appreciate rough punishing errant throws, however, this is overboard creating a very unsatisfying round for players new to the course. Two accurate players that usually average 3-5 below par (everything as 3 pars) we still spent more time looking for discs than actually playing on the front 9.

This is in serious need of a brush-cut down from 36" to around 8-12" to allow for rate of play and less frustration.
*Errant Signs*
While the signs are plentiful and beautiful, a few show a recommended flight path or pin placement that do not reflect the hole (shows dogleg left on a straight hole)
*Lack of Trash Cans*
Leads to a lot of cans, wrappers and papers around the course, harming what is truly a beautiful sightseeing walk.

Other Thoughts:

While I didn't lose any discs, it was very frustrating to have to play ULTRA conservatively or else search for discs that skipped off a fairway into very dense overgrowth. This lead me to rate what I feel could EASILY be a 4-4.5 star course as a 1.5. There is no excuse for grass that is past the knees, filled with thorns, burrs and large-leaf rhubarb to encourage losing discs.

This has the potential to be phenomenal, but, due to the Raptor Grass it takes even very experience throwers to a level of annoyance that I do not enjoy.

I would never bring a newer player here and if I were to play again, I would not throw anything more than a midrange on the front 9.
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