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Appleton, WI

Plamann Apple Creek 18

3.765(based on 43 reviews)
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FoxRacer23TW
Experience: 19.9 years 12 played 12 reviews
3.00 star(s)

Plamann Course Review 2+ years drive by

Reviewed: Played on:Jul 20, 2014 Played the course:5+ times

Pros:

It's a really long and well laid out course. Plenty of hills to throw up or down from. There is also an optional 9 holes off of the back 9.

Cons:

The holes a too straight. They don't offer any type of obstacle to throw around or trees to maneuver through. It seems like every hole par is made for beginner throwers. Some holes could easily be made in 2, but has a par 4 listed.

Other Thoughts:

If you're in the area, definitely check this place out. When its not busy, its a fun and a smooth course to play. The ground is normally good and not too swampy. Bugs aren't a huge nuisance, unless you get into the water and muddy areas.
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ReinZ_96
Gold level trusted reviewer
Experience: 13.8 years 104 played 48 reviews
3.00 star(s)

Plamman Park 18 2+ years drive by

Reviewed: Updated: Played on:Aug 10, 2020 Played the course:5+ times

Pros:

1) This courses strongest feature is the elevation around the park. Most holes play over rolling hills, have left/right sloped fairways, or shoot steeply up or down hill. Only and handful of the holes play mostly flat. Hole 13 is definitely the signature hole of the course. It's about 400 feet straight, but at least 50 feet down hill so it's reachable with a putter for moderate to high power players. Throwing a driver on the hole brings fading out into the thick rough left and right very much into play if you don't get the nose down.

2) Despite being a mostly open course, the areas of woods are used quite well. Three tight-ish tunnel shots on holes 4, 10, and 16. The rest of the holes vary from mostly open to completely wide open. As the years go on some of the holes are getting tougher. The trees are growing taller on 1 making it more into a tunnel shot down the main fairway and hole 4 is getting tighter. Though, other holes are thinning out. Hole 7 had a large tree come down in a storm recently and made accessing the green from the right side much easier.

3) Tee pads are typical. Plenty large, and provide good grip. Additionally there are benches and small trash bins on nearly ever tee, which is very nice when the course is backed up. Maintenance is also generally quite good. The grass is always cut, trash isn't usually too bad, etc.

4) Links up with the Meadowview 9 hole loop between holes 11 and 12, making an easy way to make a 27-hole round if you are in the mood.

Cons:

1) The biggest issue here is flooding/drainage issues. Holes 1, 3, 6, 7, 9, and 10 get wet easily and stay wet for much of the year. Hole 1 and 3 have ponding issues that you just have to avoid, while 6, 7, 9, and 10 all have a small drainage ditch across the fairways. There is usually ways to get across and keep your feet dry, but after heavy rains it's almost unavoidable.

2) A couple holes are a bit cramped together and could pose safety issues. Holes 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 10, 13, 14, and 16 all have risks of errant shots coming at you from adjacent holes. While most of these aren't major issues you definitely need to pay attention when the course is busy.

3) With the exception of the few holes mentioned in 'pros' section there aren't many exciting holes. A couple holes just feel like fillers and don't really serve a purpose except to move you around the course. None of them are bad holes as they all have at least a little bit going on; be it some elevation, or the small creek on 14. If I had to pick one hole for 'worst' it would be 17; mostly wide open unless you shank it real good, very slightly uphill, and the tee pad isn't level.

3) Tee signs exist, but they aren't of much use. The have distance, (course) par, and the worst hole maps ever to glisten a tee sign. They do nothing to give you an idea of the shape of the hole or location of the basket. The distances on some holes are also a bit more inaccurate than usual due to recent pin location changes by the park to mitigate erosion issues.

Other Thoughts:

Overall, Plamann Park offers a pretty average, maybe slightly above average, disc golf experience. I feel a 'true' rating for the course is closer to a 2.75 and part of me wants to knock it down to a 2.5 due to it's aging design, an every increasing amount of trees coming down in storms making the course easier and easier as time goes on, and the serious erosion issues in places. But, I'm bumping it up because it's just a fun time to get a casual round in here when it's not busy. It's a great beginner to intermediate course, but advanced level players will get bored or frustrated pretty quickly with the layout as many of the holes straddle the area between 'pitch-and-putt' and standard disc golf holes. There are a couple pretty good par 3s (4, 7, 13 and 16) that require a well placed shot to get the birdie and one tweener hole (1) that you need pro level power to get to the circle, but the rest border on birdie-or-die (or definitely never bogey holes) for anyone ~900 rated and up. Also, not the courses fault, but it can get very busy. I haven't played during the evening or weekends here in a while, but previously on nice days you could expect to be waiting 10-15 minutes on almost every hole. When it's empty you can pump out a round of 18 in under 45 minutes if you walk fast and stay on the fairway, but when it's busy it could take 2 hours or more.

Similar to my recent re-review of Grignon Park in Kaukauna, if you are in the area and have a little time to kill I'd recommend stopping by for a round. But, if you are from out of town and only have time for one course in the Appleton area I'd recommend you take a pass on Plamann and check out O'Hauser Park in Menasha.

Update: Review rewritten and score lowered from 3.5 to 3.0.
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Experience: 24.8 years 191 played 16 reviews
3.00 star(s)

Falling just short 2+ years drive by

Reviewed: Played on:Oct 21, 2009 Played the course:once

Pros:

A beautiful well maintained park with great amenities. Concrete tees, Mach 3 baskets, trash receptacles, attractive and durable tee signs add up to a really nice walk iin the park. Interesting use of terrain makes for some really nice holes, and the flow is easy to follow. The 27 hole option is a big plus, as Meadowview adds tight technical holes to the more open Apple Creek 18.

Cons:

The beautiful tee signs are almost useless. While they do list the distance to the basket, they do not show the shape of the hole or it's hazards, or even where to find the goal. Although the park's course information board calls the course "championship", the posted pars are a joke - appropriate only for casual and recreational players. They are close to correct for green level play, but are apparently not adjusted for elevation change or foliage density.
The baskets are difficult to see. The Mach 3's are plain galvanized without any orange focal point stickers, and the (real nice) top plate is dark green and light yellow, ie. camo! In combination with poor tee signs, finding baskets the first time through can be frustrating.
The proximity of many tees to the last goal is unsafe. While it makes the flow easy, this kind of crowding is bound to cause problems!
Too many holes fall into the "everybody gets a three" length. These are average difficulty holes that play at 300-425 feet.

Other Thoughts:

This course has the venue to be really good, but it falls short. First shorten some of the stupid length holes - (move the tee on #14 forward by about 40 feet) Also moving other tees and goals further apart is a safety must. Find a 500' hole. Get useful signs, with realistic white level (advanced) pars.
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superberry
Gold level trusted reviewer
Experience: 26 years 342 played 98 reviews
3.00 star(s)

Nicely manicured city park 2+ years

Reviewed: Updated: Played on:Apr 11, 2009 Played the course:5+ times

Pros:

The surrounding area of the park is gorgeous. It is set in a mature city park with well mowed fairways, prairie grass meadows, large trees, and rolling terrain. The fact that you can play an additional loop of 9 holes (the Meadow View Course) is a plus. The course utilizes some of the rolling terrain and elevation very well.

Cons:

Unfortunately there are no tigt woods here. Most of the park is open and a few holes are VERY open with no challenge at all. Holes 6-10 or 11 present some major crowding issues with baskets very close to tees and fairways parallel to each other. This part of the design is very poor. The course is heavily used and that leads to garbage and vandalism by the useless idiots who choose to do so. The tees are heavily eroded around the concrete pad. In addition to concrete being slippery when wet, the erosion causes approach problems when you fear you'll roll an ankle. Despite being called Apple Creek, the creek is never really in play for any type of true water hazard. While #13 (I think) is a long downhill shot, it doesn't exactly qualify as a huge downhill bomber.

Other Thoughts:

Plamman is very scenic and a very sound course. If you are lucky enough to hit it on a slow day, you could enjoy yourself. However, the variety of play is just not there - no extreme woods, no extreme elevation, no unique terrain or features, and no water hazard. It is simply a better than average city park course. The option to play 27 makes it more appealing.
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Texconsinite
Gold level trusted reviewer
Experience: 16.3 years 138 played 79 reviews
3.00 star(s)

Chuck it N Go 2+ years drive by

Reviewed: Played on:Jun 13, 2009 Played the course:once

Pros:

Nice park, quite scenic. Nice tee pads with a well-made sign at each one. Around many teepads where it gets muddy, plastic grids are in place to prevent slippage.

This course provides a lot fo elevation change. It seems like every hole has either rolling terrain, or an uphill or downhill shot. Also has several blind curves around wide tree lanes for added intrigue.

This course does a good job forcing controlled D. You will want to throw for max-D due to the relatively nature of the holes (no trees in the middle of most fairways) but there are enough woods here to punish you for errant shots, as I found out the hard way on multiple holes.

Overall, this course is a good compromise. People who like open courses will like it here, but it takes enough control that players without big-D can still do well.

However, it still probably favors big arms more, since its not overall a terribly technical course.

One thing this course does really well is to mix it up a bit. No two holes are really the same, due to the varied terrain in play, and the mix of scattered trees and more wooded rough.

The rolling terrain here is a nice change from O'hauser's flat landscape, and compliments it nicely, as those two seem to be the main courses in the Appleton DG scene.

Cons:

Frustrating tee signs. These signs are very nice on first glance, and tell hole yardage and par very well. However, the "tee perspective" hoel maps are totally worthless. Why make them this way? No ball or disc golf course I've ever seen does them this way, and for good reason. Here, you have to scout the hole despite the nice signs, since the map tells nothing. That's quite sad.

Though this park provides a variety of interesting challenges, nothing about it particularly jumps out at you. The holes are pretty fun, but its quite biased towards distance over accuracy, a bit too much for my liking. Most of the locals I've talked to prefer O'hauser and consider Plamann a quite easy course. I would tend to agree. Compared to O'hauser, this course is a walk in the park.

This course is full of solid, good holes, but doesn't rise to the level of greatness. Overall, its a solid course that's fun to play.

Other Thoughts:

The course plays around a fenced-in swimming lake area, complete with sandy beaches, diving docks, and designated sections roped off for kids, adults, even a dog area. Very cool thing to see in the middle of a city, IMO way more fun than a neighborhood pool.

This is a fun, interesting course, worth checking out, but it really wont stun or amaze you like O'hauser does, which is why I'd go back to the latter before I return here.
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