Appleton, WI

Plamann Apple Creek 18

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wellsbranch250
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Experience: 10.3 years 658 played 637 reviews
3.50 star(s)

The First Disc Golf Course I Ever Played 2+ years

Reviewed: Played on:Jul 18, 2021 Played the course:2-4 times

Pros:

(3.345 Rating) An old school course that needs a twenty-first century makeover.
- HOLE VARIETY - I think the hole diversity is the best part about this course. There are opportunities to bomb-it, and also times for dialed in accuracy. Up shots, down shots, breaks to the left and breaks to the right. I do wish the water came into play a little better other than on errant throw mistakes. I really enjoyed holes like (10, 13 and 16) with the pleasing downward trajectory. When I first played this course, I think I would have noted that the layout was on the openish side, but now it's more of a hybrid of tree coverages. Holes like (3) and (4) need to be laced to find the basket circle.
- CHALLENGING - Ignoring the silly par figures, this place offers a solid upper recreational challenge. Players shooting sub 50 are at least Intermediate level and maybe even lower Advanced level. These players are likely playing it as an all par 3 54 instead of the listed par 70. Anyways, players will need all the shots to score well here. I personally shot a 52 on this go around and I'm an Intermediate level player.
- ELEVATED WISCONSIN CHARM - This is a really beautiful park. Healthy, vibrant, and diversified plants and trees. Lots of rolling elevation and the course takes great advantage of it. There were tons of wildflowers blooming in the few remaining prairie grass areas. Overall, I scored this one about 70 percentile.
- AMENITIES - This is an area that the course could really improve upon, but it still has several nice comforting extras. First, nice concrete tees with foul line extensions. Adequate baskets all still in good shape. There are benches on every hole which is needed for a course like this one with all the moderate elevation change. Nice community board by the parking area as well as picnic tables and a practice basket. Shelters and restrooms are in the park too.
- 27 HOLE LOOP - After hole (11) on this layout, players have an option of either proceeding to hole (12) or going to hole (2) on the neighboring 9 hole course. It's a seamless way to play 27 holes.

Cons:

A classic smile from 30 years ago that has been in need of dental work for over ten years.
- NO UPGRADES - When I first played here in 2000, there were 18 tees and 18 MachIII baskets. Still one tee and still one placement with a Mach III. How dull. This place could really benefit by adding tees where space is available. The same goes for hole placements. There is plenty of room to build some additional pocket greens for basket placements. One of my home courses in Huntsville was built in 1976. We don't still have mach Is and one hole placement per hole.
- PAR STRUCTURE - I don't think the par structure has ever been updated over the 30 year history. A sub 400-foot downhill par 5? Apparently, I had 3 eagles and shot 18 down according to the signage. I don't take off points for an odd par structures, but it feels weird.
- TEE SIGNAGE - Like the other course on site, I thought the tee signs were really good at first, but they are not. There is seemingly an artistic description of the line, but in reality it's just a generic image. The only useful info on the tee signs here, and the neighboring 9-hole course, is the hole number and distance.
- MISC THINGS - There are some thick overgrowth areas on a few holes. It's possible to lose a disc here but it's no worse than an average course. I spotted some poison Ivy a few times and it was buggy in spots. I wouldn't bring an unathletic first timer here. There are also a couple minor safety hazards. Hole (1) plays along a park road and holes (7) and (8) kind of play back and forth along the same park space.

Other Thoughts:

As noted in the title, This was the first course I ever played back in 2000. I want to say that I did a total of three rounds here that summer and then never came back until this year. I remember enjoying the course and carding a few 2s and even hitting the basket once on (15). Over the 21 year gap in play I only vividly remembered 3 holes, (11,14 and 15). A lot of the prairie grass that I remembered, are now young wooded areas. Anyways, this is still a really good course and many small towns would be ecstatic to have this in their area. When I first put together my spreadsheet 5 years ago, I actually scored this one a low 3.5 using only my loose recollections of the course. Too my surprise, when I reran the numbers based on my fresh visit, I still scored it a low 3.5. So, is Plamann worth playing? Absolutely. Is it worth traveling over 2 hours to play-it? Probably not anymore. Courses like Rollin Ridge and O'Hauser are not too far away from here and they are both far more deserving to make a long journey to go play. For those traveling to just Appleton, this is likely still the top course as the other three are niners. For the local's sake, I hope they decide to spice the layout up by adding some alternate option play dynamics.
- TIME PLAY - Average. It took me 57 minutes as a solo with a few groups on the course. These other groups were extremely courteous and let me play through right away. Figure 90 minutes for solos if doing the 27 hole loop.
- NAVIGATION - Adequate. No course map posted and the tee signs, as noted in the cons, don't really help much. What makes the navigation adequate, is the general closeness of the baskets and tees. One can generally spot the next tee post when at the basket. The only one that took me a second to spot was (12), as I accidently walked to (15) instead.
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MrFrosty
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Experience: 31.1 years 764 played 387 reviews
3.50 star(s)

Solid course 2+ years drive by

Reviewed: Played on:Aug 28, 2018 Played the course:once

Pros:

Since Plamann Apple Creek 18 is considered separate from it's 9 hole buddy , I will treat it as such . Plamann is one of the older courses in Wisconsin . It sits on a very well manicured and taken care of park in Appleton . There is one tee pad per hole . The tee pads are long enough and most of the holes you don't have to rush , anyway , because only 5 of them are longer than 300' . The baskets are in pretty good shape , and the course seems to get a lot of love from the locals and park employees . There were a good number of people out enjoying this course while I was playing . The locals are friendly and are really into the game . This is a perfect course to learn and improve your game with . The holes are challenging enough to keep you interested , but not difficult enough to scare you away . Lots of elevation here , with baskets set every which way ( on hills , on sides of hills , etc. ) My personal signature hole was 16 , a 350 foot dogleg right that starts downhill where you have to sit it down before going into the brush , then throw your second shot slightly uphill with as many things going wrong as right if you aren't accurate on it . You won't lose a disc on this course unless it gets hung up high in a tree . Hole #1 starts off the round with the longest run on the course , a tight enough throw on the left with a lot of trees in the mix , or a long right to left throw over the road and back onto the course . . Hard to stray on this course as it flows well , with plenty of benches and trash receptacles on the course . The fun factor here is very high .

Cons:

Good ams or any pros will destroy this course . It is more intended for occasionals , locals , out of towners or newbies . The course can be windy , and can hold a bit of water after a good rain . It can get crowded during the weekends and since the park is popular and well used , some of the park goers can walk unknowingly into the path of your throw . Be careful . I can only assume that the signage was installed by someone at the parks department that knows nothing about the game . The sign gives you the number of the hole and the distance , and gives you the same generic inlay with several fir trees on either side of a straight line . It would be a cool sign if it showed the path of where the basket is , instead of where it rarely would be . No pro/advanced tee pads .

Other Thoughts:

All in all , this is a popular course and when coupled with the 9 holer ( you can start those after #11 of your round by throwing #2 and circling around to complete the 9 holer ) , you have 27 holes of enjoyment without throwing your arm out .Plenty of different looks on these holes . If I lived in the area , I would play it on many of my weekends . This course deserves more than a look .
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djtripp20
Silver level trusted reviewer
Experience: 10.2 years 60 played 36 reviews
3.50 star(s)

Open and Hilly 2+ years drive by

Reviewed: Played on:Apr 12, 2017 Played the course:once

Pros:

Plamann - Apple Creek is a beautiful course nestled in a park north of Appleton. Parking is available in a lot on the east side of the park near the lake. Hole 1's tee pad and hole 18's basket are both right next to this lot.

The course itself is mostly open and defined by clean cut grass lined with some light brush or woods. It's more open than many of the other courses in the area, but the trees that do come into play require you to think a little longer about how to play each hole.

Holes 1 thru 4 were a nice start to the course and offer a few different shots and angles. Holes 5 through 9 are pretty standard, open holes. From hole 10 on, the course is excellent.

My favorite hole was hole 13. It was a 391 foot extreme downhill shot that made my disc look like it was flying forever. Easily the most memorable hole on the course for me.

Hole 15 also stood out as the opposite of hole 13. This one goes back uphill 245 feet. A little noodle arm like me couldn't quite get it there, but I'm sure most players could do it without any issues.

All in all, a very scenic and peaceful round. There weren't many other players out there during my round.

Summary of pros:

- Well maintained park
- Easy parking
- Nice teepads
- Clearly defined fairways
- Significant elevation on some holes
- Beautiful scenery with lake and creeks
- Tee signs
- 9 hole course also on property

Cons:

It was very muddy when I played my round. It looked like the park didn't drain very well. You might want to keep this in mind if playing after a storm or a few days after significant rain.

Some of the holes were confusing to me. The baskets didn't seem to match the signs at all. I had to walk ahead a few times to see where I was going, then return to the pad and throw. This is probably a non issue if you play with a local.

Other Thoughts:

Plamann Park is another great course in the Appleton area. If you consider the additional 9 hole course, there are 27 holes of disc golf here waiting for you. I would add it to the list to play if you're visiting the area. Park in the lot on the east side of the park near the lake, and enjoy!
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Spike Hyzer 23
Experience: 30.8 years 92 played 88 reviews
3.50 star(s)

My Very First Tournament Course 2+ years drive by

Reviewed: Played on:May 20, 2015 Played the course:5+ times

Pros:

My first experiences with disc golf were with highly technical, hilly and heavily wooded courses in Madison (which remain, to me, what disc golf is all about).

This was not only my first tournament course, but it was the first course I saw that looked and felt somewhat like the ball golf courses I grew up playing as a member of my HS team.

It's also one of the very few that is well designed, flows well, and has enough foliage as obstacles to make for interesting and challenging golf.

There is a good mix of long and short holes. There is very little in the way of extreme elevation change, but what little elevation there is is used to great effect (mostly by putting holes on side slopes, which can trick a player in terms of distance, and especially in terms of angle of release, as much as straightforward up and down).

The greens are exceptionally well guarded on the longer holes, offering the challenge of the hero shot to try for a long deuce, a risk that might not lead to reward and cause a player to bogie instead.

Cons:

While the carved tee signs appear quite beautiful, they don't really give any idea of the true shape of the hole nor where the vegetation is located. They are largely ineffectual.

A few of the shorter holes on the back 9 could stand to have more protected greens and a design opportunity has been missed here to make for a more challenging championship caliber course (11, 12, 14 and 15 and possibly even 17 and 18).

Other Thoughts:

I played this first in 1995 when it opened and I'd only been playing for a year. I finished 3rd in the advanced division and more than quintupled my entry fee in funny money.

Climo and Steady Ed were here, so it was probably the biggest thrill in my early discing career.

It's not among the best courses in WI, but I will always think of it fondly.
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Baueezy
Experience: 14.1 years 71 played 13 reviews
3.50 star(s)

2+ years drive by

Reviewed: Played on:Oct 18, 2014 Played the course:once

Pros:

Good mix of long and short shots throughout. Rolling hills with varied shots favoring forehand and backhand throwers. Had the feel of a ball golf course, basically being that it was well maintained and contained unique features for a disc golf experience.

Cons:

Signs looked nice, but were not very practical. It was hard to see or understand the shot ahead. Some shots could have been more challenging, but that is a variable for different golfers.
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Stardoggy
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Experience: 12.8 years 1009 played 214 reviews
3.50 star(s)

Fun, relaxing round 2+ years

Reviewed: Played on:Oct 26, 2014 Played the course:2-4 times

Pros:

Plamann 18 is a very serene course set in a very well kept city park, just outside of Appleton on the north side of town.

DGA baskets, all in good repair, and all caught very well. One pin placement per hole, although there are apparently different setups for tournaments.

Concrete tee pads on every hole. Plenty long enough, rectangular, and grippy. One tee position per hole.

The course has a nice mix of distances, from a 436' first hole, down to a 179' hole, and just about everything in between.

The course is FULL of rolling hills and elevation. This is probably the biggest theme of this course, and provides some difficulty. Hole 13 is an especially fun hole, 391' down a big ol' hill, with a creek behind it. Good stuff.

Lots of mature trees will punish errant drives. The fairways are generous on almost every hole, unless you hit one of these trees!

Navigation is pretty intuitive, with most tee pads near the last basket.

Cons:

One tee/one pin position is kind of a drag. It's a fairly open park, and at least could use some variety.

It can get swampy here in the spring, especially on the early holes.

You do get the feel that a lot of the holes are either straight, or slightly left to right, which can be tough if you're not throwing particularly straight that day, or depend on a lot of hyzer shots.

There can be a lot of traffic here on nice days. Get there early, and it won't be a problem. Being a big, beautiful park, you also get some stray pedestrian traffic as well, especially around the back side.

Other Thoughts:

Plamann is a really fun course for an Int player. It's one of those courses that I always feel like I left a few shots on the course. The lines are fun, and rewarding.

This review is only for the 18 loop, but you can jump into the back 9 after hole 11 (start on hole 2) and it spins you right back to hole 12. Easy peasy.

We were informed that Plamann is one of the first 10 courses in Wisconsin, which was a surprise. It has definitely stood the test of time, and the length is surprising for such an old course. I have a blast every time I play here, and would highly recommend it to anybody looking for a round that isn't a beatdown, but isn't some wide open course.

Plamann is like Flip City's older sister. Flip City is the hot younger sister that everyone wants to get with....Plamann is the slightly older sister that's a bit easier to score on, but not quite as exciting. The ride will still be fun, though!
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wolfhaley
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Premium Member
Experience: 20 years 1008 played 579 reviews
3.50 star(s)

Apple Creek 18 hole. 2+ years

Reviewed: Played on:Oct 19, 2013 Played the course:once

Pros:

This course can be played by itself or you can jump onto the meadowview course after hole 11 to play the whole 27 hole loop. All holes have nice large, level concrete tees that are plenty grippy. The baskets are Mach 3's that are all in excellent shape and catch nicely. these also have the number plates on top of each which is always nice. There are signs at each tee that have a map of the hole, par, hole # and distance. The flow from hole to hole is very intuitive. the course was well mowed and maintained when we went. There are benches and trash cans all over throughout the course. There's a really good amount of elevation on this course. It's one of the major challenges on this course. There's a really solid mix of left, right and straight shots required here. It's a pretty well balanced course in this regard. Other than that it's moderately wooded with a number of holes being mostly open. There's a good mix of different distances on this course. It starts out with the longest hole at 463 feet on hole 1. The shortest is 179 feet on hole 11, however this is a blind uphill shot which makes up for the shortness here. All the holes have either wood chips or metal grating around each tee pad. Some have both. There's a great variety of different types of trees throughout the different sections of the course making it a very visually appealing course. The course is also free to play. They have a large board at the start of the course with any kind of disc related postings on it.

Cons:

My main con here is the tee signs. The map of each hole layout is pretty much useless for first time players. It's basically just a blob that's supposed to be the fairway with a cartoony basket on top of the blob. It doesn't help at all in knowing where the basket is. The course is only open late spring to late fall. It's always nice seeing courses being open year round but there's plenty of other courses nearby that stay up all year. Also the drainage can apparently get pretty bad here. Everything was good as far as that when we went, however it was late October. Something to remember if you go in the spring or after any rain. In order to jump onto the 9 hole loop you need to cross the road after hole 11. You'll see hole 12 to your left and hole 2 of Meadowview to your right. It's just easier to start on hole 2 of Meadowview and finish with hole 1 which will bring you right back to hole 12 to finish the 27 hole loop. I can see why hole 1 is where it is just a little confusing for first time players. There's only one set of tee and basket locations here. It would be nice if at least they had multiple pin locations on such an otherwise real solid course.

Other Thoughts:

All in all this is a plenty fun course that would make for a fun day of disc golf by itself or combined with any of the many other nearby courses. I gave it a 3.5 because it is very good. There's just nothing that really sticks out to make it super memorable. It's just a real solid well designed course. I'd definitely check this one out if you're in the area.
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Dan K
Experience: 15.6 years 2 played 2 reviews
3.50 star(s)

2+ years drive by

Reviewed: Played on:Aug 23, 2013 Played the course:once

Pros:

Elevation, Some big distance holes.

Cons:

Wasps and Bees! Not going to lie, after going into anaphylactic shock years ago the amount of potential near death experiences made the course particularly challenging for me. :)

Besides a few holes, it seemed the majority of holes were shorter with not much variety in technical difficulty.

Other Thoughts:

Over-all one of the better kept courses I've been to. Garbage disposal options were stellar!
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Furry Lint Trap
Experience: 21 years 4 played 4 reviews
3.50 star(s)

Apple Creek AND Meadowview review 2+ years drive by

Reviewed: Played on:Jul 28, 2013 Played the course:once

Pros:

- Great layout, with a variety of obstacles, elevation, tight and open shots. Meadowview plays more on the tight and narrow side.

- Tees, baskets well maintained. Garbage and benches at nearly (if not all) holes.

- Ton of fun factor

Cons:

- Biggest complaint is drainage. Played after a slight rain, and was muddy, etc in places. Nothing crazy, but could use a bit of work in this area.

- Tad short for the experienced player, but makes up for it with variety of shots.

Other Thoughts:

I really liked this 27 hole course. Might be biased as I played a -7 here, but I found it very enjoyable and never felt repetitive. Was sad there wasn't a couple super long holes to let the big dog hunt, but not all course can have a 700' fairway. Will DEFINITELY play this course again if up near Appleton.
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Awol
Experience: 20.9 years 22 played 8 reviews
3.50 star(s)

Stopped out for a quick round 2+ years drive by

Reviewed: Played on:Oct 2, 2012 Played the course:once

Pros:

- Good variety of holes
- Benches at most of the tees
- Bag hangers and garbage at every tee.
- Well groomed

Cons:

- A second tee would be nice for some of these holes.
- Blind baskets require a bit of wandering if you are a first-time (I was.) Minor complaint though.
- Signs could be a bit more descriptive. To explain a bit, the signs seemed to be too small to show an appropriate scale for the hole. A dog leg left that was a sharp turn was shown the same way as a gentle dog leg. The signs seemed too cramped to offer what people expect from a sign.

Other Thoughts:

Overall a great course, definitely worth stopping at. I wasn't able to try the suggested 27 hole path, but look forward to getting back out there to try it.

I can't speak to how busy it was. I only saw one other group on the course but I was there mid-day on a Tuesday.
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BKGuitar9
Experience: 22.9 years 5 played 2 reviews
3.50 star(s)

2+ years drive by

Reviewed: Played on:Jun 25, 2011 Played the course:5+ times

Pros:

1. Good variety in holes. Some fields, some trees, some open, some elevation in addition to great variation in distance.
2. Great, large concrete tee boxes.
2. Clean (Garbage cans on every hole)
3. Good signage
4. Great fairways- with the exception of a couple of holes every fairway is grass
5. Huuuge park
6. Great layout and flow

Cons:

1. Holes 1,3,5,6,7,9 often acquire large amounts of water
2. Late summer = lots of apples on the ground. Lots of apples on the ground = lots of bees
3. Highest chance of encountering large groups of rude disc golfers in the area as Plamann is often crowded.
4. It's always more windy in comparison to other local parks

Other Thoughts:

My favorite place to go when it isn't windy or crowded.
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Terry C
Bronze level trusted reviewer
Experience: 27.1 years 54 played 27 reviews
3.50 star(s)

Plamann Apple creek 18 2+ years drive by

Reviewed: Played on:Oct 30, 2010 Played the course:once

Pros:

-Very nice well kept park, well kept fairways, rolling hills, surounded by grassy medows.
-Fantastic use of elevation
-Nice concrete tees
-Trash cans on most holes
-Tee signs
-Easy to follow course flow
-an optional 9 holes come into play about halfway through (at hole 12)
-A creek winds through several holes adding an extra obstical, shallow enough to retrieve discs easily.
-Many old and beautiful trees make certain shots fun and challenging.
-Several blind pin placements
-Baskets in good shape
-Several benches at holes
-Dual pin placements
-Excellent variety of short to long holes, left to right shots etc...
-Erosion mats around some of the teeboxes is helpful for preventing erosion, and also helps to retain turf in these areas.
-Nice basket placements, several baskets are on hills and offer roll away potential

Cons:

-Thick rough surrounds some holes making errant shots difficult to find
-Course gets muddy and soft after rain

Other Thoughts:

I had a great time playing this course, Im not sure why they didnt just add the optional 9 holes to the other 18 holes. This seems a bit goofy. You also start the optional 9 holes at hole 12 which seems out of place. I would agree with some other reviewers in the fact that if this course were 27 holes instead of 18+ 9 alternates I would have rated it higher. The course was very fun to play and I would love to come back and give it another shot now that I have seen the blind pin placements and have a good feel for where everything is. This is a Rich Martin designed course which adds to its overall coolness. Rich is the man!! He really knows how to use the land he has available to maximise its potential for disc golf, hes a great designer. Its definitely worth a trip to play if your around the area.
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Jukeshoe
Diamond level trusted reviewer
Experience: 14.7 years 316 played 268 reviews
3.50 star(s)

Apple Creek 18 2+ years

Reviewed: Played on:Oct 30, 2010 Played the course:once

Pros:

- The Plamann Apple Creek 18-holer is situated in a spacious, well-maintained, multi-use park along with the Plamann Meadowview 9-hole course. After Apple Creek's 12th hole, you are given the option of playing Meadowview's 9 holes before looping back to Apple Creek's 13th hole.
- Moderate elevation and tightly-spaced trees and bushes require precision and skill to score well. Elevation, as well as the course's trees and brush, is used well throughout. Most holes are in the 300' range or shorter, and several are aceable. A few longer open holes scattered here and there, although nothing punishingly long.
- Risk/reward opportunities throughout. A small creek comes into play on several of the holes, but isn't deep enough in most places to lose a disc in. Most risk comes from trying to hit the "perfect line." Trees will smack you down and ruin your upshot/putt if given half the chance.
- A good mix of hole styles. Everything from short straight ace runs to bombing off of small hills. Trees provide the main obstacles, but do so in a way that doesn't become boring or repetitive. Good mix of anny and hyzer lines. Plenty of blind holes to navigate.
- Concrete tees in great shape. Baskets in good condition for the most part. Adequate signage, trash buckets, and benches at each hole.
- Dual pin positions, although apparently the baskets get moved only very rarely (once every couple of years or so).

Cons:

- The signs, while in good shape and easy on the eyes, don't really depict the hole layout very well. Most end up looking very much the same. This becomes a slight issue with the number of blind holes.
- A few of the baskets had chains that have come loose from the ring that holds them, allowing the chain-links to hang straight down.
- A little on the short side, but not short enough to be super easy or boring. The addition of long tees (if possible) would make this course outstanding.

Other Thoughts:

- As a stand-alone 18, this course is a solid 3.5 discs. Coupled with Meadowview's optional 9 holes, this 27 hole course delivers and would rated higher on my scale.
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mashnut
Diamond level trusted reviewer
Experience: 22.2 years 831 played 777 reviews
3.50 star(s)

Very nice course 2+ years drive by

Reviewed: Played on:Jul 4, 2010 Played the course:once

Pros:

The course plays through a nicely manicured multi-use park with awesome maintenance and good separation from other park activities. There are lots of elevation changes, and though none are really drastic they are enough to add quite a bit of challenge and variety to the course. There are some tough uphill shots and some fun downhill holes, and a couple pin placements that are quite conducive to roll aways on missed putts for a little extra risk.

There is a mix of left and right turning holes that make the course play pretty balanced for righty and lefty players. There is a nice variety of distances from ace runs to long bombs which helps keep the course from ever feeling very repetitive. Many holes have enough rough and obstacles that the few open holes make a nice contrast, and the brush that lines some fairways makes for a punishing lie if you throw an errant drive. There are decent signs here with the hole distance, and good concrete tees. The park is well kept with no trash or vandalism that I saw.

Cons:

The hole maps on the signs are useless, they all look exactly the same so they don't really help all that much, and you still have to walk up the fairway to know where to throw on the several blind holes. There are several holes that bring the park roads into play, making for some possible safety hazards and waits for traffic to pass.

Though there is a good balance of left and right turning holes, few of them require very much turn to negotiate the fairway. This ends up making the course feel like too many holes play pretty much straight ahead, and takes away from the fun factor and challenge for me.

Other Thoughts:

This is a nice course that's definitely worth the stop if you're in the area. With the 9 hole course in the same park that intersects this course, you can play a full 27 hole loop which is a nice plus. Beginners will find the course long, and a little punishing. More experienced players will be challenged, though much of the challenge comes from keeping the disc on the fairway not from making a wide variety of shot shapes.
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tallpaul
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Premium Member
Experience: 35.9 years 934 played 137 reviews
3.50 star(s)

play while in the area 2+ years

Reviewed: Updated: Played on:Oct 15, 2009 Played the course:5+ times

Pros:

Quite solid course; has stood the test of time. One of the first 10 with baskets in Wisconsin. Steady Ed involved with original course walk through and design.
Well designed mixture of lhbh and rhbh shots.
Well designed mixture of long and short holes.
ALL shot types are represented here...for blue level players)
Some fall-away greens.
Some ace runs, but only a couple that you should "absolutely" get.
Very well maintained park (with ball golf course feel, as noted by other reviewers). Plamann Park staff maintains this course wonderfully, especially considering amount of play. Trash cans emptied daily; etc. Trash buckets attached to each and every tee post.
Both a con and a pro is the fact that there are few "wow" holes. However, nearly every conceivable "almost wow" shot IS presented.
One 400 foot, but requiring steerage, hole per nine.
Gold level players will find this course rather short. Everyone else should enjoy Plamann a GREAT deal; as nearly every shot presents a good challenge to this level of player. (Thus the 4 rating and above from many "average" players in other reviews.
Meadow view nine makes this overall layout, 27 holes. Big plus. (In most reviews, I bump a course up by .5 for this alone. Here, I did not; as they are listed separately. Meadowview nine less played than Apple Creek, and offers more alone time. (After #11 (original course), go to tee to right of #12 and begin play at #2, Meadow view, to play full 27.)
Big parking lot.
Swimming offered in nice setting.
Hole #1, longest hole on front nine, challenging you from the start. Rhbh players may choose to brave the road to the right with a hyzer and attempt a road skip back into fairway. Tough to get it to come all the way back, without tree trouble on the upshot.
Blind #4, quite a tough hole.
#7 and #8 require long drives to reach. #7 is a quite scenic hole; and for rhbh; required a shot that follows the contours of the land to a blind pin.
#10 and #11 are two of the better short holes anywhere. #10 has all kind of rollaway possibilities, as well as huge pin protection. #11 is aceable through the "two goal post trees", but is a blind placement.
#13 is probably the signature hole here; a "top of the world" type of hole.
#15 is only 245 ft., buts plays uphill the entire way and plays like 300+; in nearly 20 years; I've seen very few drives past this pin
#16 and excellent blind pin. I would perhaps call this one the signature hole.
#17 is only 271 ft., but, again, is an uphill hole.
To sum this up; the overall footage here is only 5300 feet; and there are a few short holes (10,11, 12, and 14); but, a number of the others you may think are short; play longer.

Cons:

One set of tees.
One pin placement (though most holes have been moved slightly over the years to allow pin areas to recuperate).
The MOST crowded course in the Fox Cities. Fox Cities area, in general, played hard. (before noon is preferred if you would like to play at a faster pace)
Some blind holes. (I don't really consider this a con. However, first timers need to realize that unless playing with a local, some fairways will need to be walked to see the pin; and this can be annoying; if you're unprepared for it.)
Apple Creek not in play. (Holes #5, #10, and for long arms, #13 can bring the creek into play with errant shots).
Gold level players will find this to be primarily a pitch and putt. This con is given for these players, only; though they probably already know it.
Holes #5, #6, #9 and #10 used to have wonderful apple orchid feel and especially 5, 9 and 10 played quite a bit tougher before these trees perished. #5 is really the only one of these that will seem quite plain; a whole grove of trees was lost here.

Other Thoughts:

The very first Rich Martin design. Rich now has more than seven courses to his credit. Plamann, O'Hauser, and Grignon, are all Martin designed. These three form the "must play trifecta" for the Fox Cities. (Telulah Park is not a Martin design; but should get honorable mention as our #4 solid course) If you fail to be thrilled by these three (from long tees at the other two); you have gotten to the point where you need to find 4+ rated courses to play....and if you're not the pro tour, YOU SHOULD BE....
Local rules stipulate that if you're o.b., over the fence on #18, you must buy ice cream for your group! ha ha
I am now 46 years of age and find Plamann to be quite challenging. There was a period, where I considered this course a bit weak. (I'm trying to give the big picture here. I believe this has been previously explained relating to the 950 rated players.) This course has actually gotten tougher in recent years; I believe, due to growth of rough; especially on hole #4.
Possibility of this course becoming pay to play in the near future. (A con in regards to cost, and a plus.... as numbers of players will be cut back.) Would be nice if pay to play allows for second set of tees and pin placements; perhaps bringing the creek more into play. We will have to wait and see.
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rscd20
Experience: 21.1 years 95 played 13 reviews
3.50 star(s)

2+ years

Reviewed: Played on:Jul 19, 2009 Played the course:once

Pros:

Great course map at first hole
Well maintained fairways and pads
Nice signs that lead the way
Variety of uphill, downhill, long and blind holes
While in a mixed use park, the disc golf area is only disc golf, no walking paths which surprised me

Cons:

Very busy with many families and young kids playing that can interrupt a good flow of play. This is really the only bad thing I have to say about this course. I was able to group up with a few people and play through some families, but most of the time it was just wait, wait, wait. And not really any benches to sit at.

Other Thoughts:

Has an additional 9 to play for 27 holes. I never did it, but I heard it's quite hard.
There is a small lake to cool off at between rounds if you want to go for a dip
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