Pros:
Played this course while visiting my parents in the Louisville area. Was a warm day, so played it twice. I chose Seviren from local options (having played Charlie Vettiner twice earlier in week) because years ago I played on ultimate team with co-designer, Martin Young. Wanted to see his work. Played my "round" shot from long tee when had option but tried the short concrete tees when present just to see what they offered.
*** The parking lot Google Maps leads to is near H10. The gate was closed that would take you up to the H1 parking lot. I could not tell if that was a permanent change to accommodate walking path or if merely an aspect of seasonal operations. Seemed like locals were starting on 10 as well. My comments are informed by 10-18, 1-9 order of play. There are one and possibly two practice baskets near H1 (still not sure about where 18's basket is) but none near H10 as far as I could tell.
The course was wet in places, but had not been area long enough to know what water it might be holding or why.
Much of what was said in previous reviews applies: well-maintained course; makes most of park space and elevation; nice mix of wooded and open holes.
A good, fair, rewarding, enjoyable challenge for my level -- almost exclusive LHBH 890+ rated intermediate player. The challenges include line hitting as the rough is punishing even in winter months and being out of position on holes, even in the open holes, increases the challenge and risks of the subsequent shot. On some holes this increase is fairly substantial - difference between good birdie look and no birdie look.
As I mention in the Cons there are, for my tastes, too many straight holes. That said, the course designers use angles and elevation effectively and interesting dimensions such as fast and roll-away greens, pinch points, etc.
Multiple basket design on some holes significantly change the hole while others create what amount to left and right greens. Only one basket in ground, so basket rotates. Some of the A/B baskets are not really far enough apart to really matter in terms of shot making but perhaps locals like the course variance they offer?
Comments on specific holes in Other Thoughts area.
Cons:
There are a number of course holes that might not be approved in 2019 given safety concerns. As the course runs counterclockwise for most part, the risks tend to be LHBH fade risks and RHBH hyzer risks. 14 in the B position is a strong dogleg left with walkway on right. Not a big fan of throwing around a corner without good sight lines. 18 long also requires throwing over walkway that leads to 1's tee. This wasn't a problem with this parking lot not being used but still not a great design. I actually played to the practice basket near the parking lot in round 1, and then did again in R2 when I couldn't find a different basket to play to. H8 basket is near a parking lot but, again, the gate to the parking lot was closed.
I felt like I was throwing a driver (I throw nothing higher than a 9 speed disc) or a putter on most tees. There are a number of either straight or downhill putter shots: 1, 3, 7, possibly 10 (I threw mid), 17 in short. The alternate pins may change this dynamic -- just felt like a lot of straight putter shots. Other straight holes include 12 in long, 14 in short, 15 tunnel, 16 @ 1,000 ft, and 8 (uphill). That repetition of short shots solidified the 3.5 rating, and not a 4.
I really disliked hole 5, a nearly 90 degree short dogleg. Just seemed a goofy hole made out of necessity given the space available. Maybe if I threw FH better, I'd like it better.
Other Thoughts:
I liked the B9 (which played as F9 given where I parked) more than intended front 9. The first five wooded holes are uneven. 1 is a fine putter shot. 2 is a great hole. Requires two really good shots to get to green (perhaps 950-rated players putt for eagle?). 3 is boring. 4 is a good hole in that it has two routes to consider and an uphill green. 5 is as described above. 6 is 1,000 ft straight, though with sloping fairway toward wood line. 7,8,9 have weird flow.
3 favorite holes:
Hole 11 -- maybe signature hole on course. Uphill tee shot over a wooded area that can collect low discs. Hole was set in short position but, in second round, I went ahead and played to the long basket -- which required an uphill to downhill right-to-left tunnel shot, with runaway green. No basket, so I didn't putt, but would have been putting for par from circle's edge. Great view from short basket, if turn back toward tee. Took a picture there.
Hole 2 -- Almost a cut above, in good way, in terms of challenge compared with rest of course. Tight wooded fairway moving sharply to the right and then uphill slightly to very tight green. Fairway has pinch sides approaching green, so requires hitting two lines to be putting for birdie. Short par 4, but punishing if on either left or right of fairway, and especially right short of fairway bend.
Hole 16. Par 4, uphill from long tee into a tunnel, then on second shot (for my 300-foot arm) downhill through pinch point to guarded green (basket in longer position). tough birdie. I didn't get it either time.
3 Least Favorite Holes:
Hole 5 -- as described above. Yuck.
Hole 8 -- Kind of a filler hole. Go downhill on 7 and 9, so have to get back up hill from 7 to play 9. Probably harder RHBH given tree and mando but boring played LHBH.
Hole 3 -- the most boring of the straight putter holes. Kind of an obstructed tee of sorts, but that added nothing to hole.
Other hole comments:
I wonder what 13 played like when the course was designed compared to now. The second shot requires navigating a very large clump of trees across most of the fairway and then the green has evergreen trees around it in places. The map does not show the left hyzer line (LHBH) as a designed option. This line, if it is a line, requires hitting a narrow gap while possibly turning the disc over OB to clear this large clump and need distance to clear evergreen guardian trees. On the designed line, the hole plays LHBH hyzer then turnover. Opposite for RH. RHFH and then big RH hyzer is probably easiest route. The hole would benefit from some line clearing.
I'm still not sure if I played to the right basket on 18.
A few final "enjoyment" thoughts that did not affect me but worth mentioning:
The off-fairway rough was punishing to both scramble shots and to the body (thorns!) even in December. In summer it could be a real challenge/frustration.
I would call some of the Par 4s "soft" but I am not good enough for it to matter to my round. Just a design comment.
The busier the walking path is, the more disruption your round will likely encounter. Doesn't impact a ton of holes, but is a factor on a few.
If you are a 875+ player, I'd pass on the short tees. A few holes have second concrete tees and others have rubber pads (that seem to have been deserted in terms of upkeep). All of the long tees are more interesting. The short tees don't have tee signs.
****
My rounds played quickly though the layout requires a fair amount of walking. No transitions are too long -- it's just a course that covers the park perimeter so asks a fair amount of walking.
If I lived in Southern Indiana, I'd play this course all the time. Really good course for practicing hitting desired landing spots and wooded lines and navigating obstructed and runaway greens.