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Sioux Passage - Original

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bwgrotha1s
Experience: 6 played 6 reviews
4.00 star(s)

Tough 2+ years drive by

Reviewed: Played on:May 25, 2016 Played the course:5+ times

Pros:

--The setup here is absolutely perfect. The two halves are quite different, with the first calling for distance and the second demanding accuracy.

--Not only are concrete tee pads great, but here the tee/pin arrangements are so solid. Nearly all of these holes are memorable. (My favorite is #13)

--Much more open and forgiving than most courses of similar difficulty, however OB in the back half can make things rough at times. Patience will eventually reward those lost in the tall grass.

--A chance to rip some power drives with a real challenge present. But there is more elevation change and less pointless distance than Creve Coeur Lake.

--Clean and well-kept county park

Cons:

--Far away even for many residents of St. Louis County. Situated on the Missouri river deep in north county.

--The bugs the bugs. Spray up. You and all of your party members should each bring your own cans and use them in their entirety. You'll still probably get bit.

--You do have to drive to the back half i'm pretty sure. I've yet to find a convenient path that leads there. Walking is not only a trip but using the road seems unsafe.


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Other Thoughts:

There is too much good about this park to be distracted by its issues (even the bugs). Players will enjoy ripping discs off the tees across rolling hills and fields. Careful play in the latter half will also greatly reward and satisfy.
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bdjohns1
Experience: 10.7 years 8 played 6 reviews
4.00 star(s)

Tough, but an enjoyable course 2+ years drive by

Reviewed: Played on:Jul 10, 2014 Played the course:once

Pros:

The course was in great condition. Fairways are being mowed, and it looks like they are addressing one of the complaints I had with the course in the not-too-distant future - they have samples of the new hole-map tee signs on #1 and #10 now. I'm pretty new to the game, and the distance here compared to my home course in WI was a little bit of a wakeup.

The course makes great use of the terrain, although in most cases, the way it's used tends to reward those with monster arms off the tee, especially on the valley holes on the front 9, and the last few holes on the back 9.

Favorite shots: Approaches on #3, 17, and 18. Tee shots on 7, 9, 13.

Cons:

This was my first time on the course, and we had to walk a couple of the holes to establish where the baskets actually were at (#14, #17, #18 in particular). As a few other mentioned, the tees for #9 and #12 need to be signed a little bit more obviously from the previous baskets.

As the baskets were set last week, the course was playing north of 8000 feet. We can't all have bomber arms - I like when a course offers two tee options so that if you're in a group with folks who're still throwing 200-250, it's a fair fight.

Other Thoughts:

A lot of the photos of this course are taken without foliage. The #9 tee is just mean when everything's grown in.
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BogeyNoMore
Diamond level trusted reviewer
Premium Member
Experience: 19.9 years 484 played 183 reviews
4.00 star(s)

Don't pass on Sioux Passage 2+ years

Reviewed: Updated: Played on:Apr 20, 2014 Played the course:once

Pros:

Wonderful course in a very clean, well-maintained, county park. Hilly to say the least, Sioux Passage feels and plays like two separate 9-hole courses.

• Front is a nice, open, park-style course playing up and down across rolling hills. Elevation is significant on every hole, and figures more prominently on some pin placements than others. Opens design means you can take almost any route you want, but long and straight's all you need for most 'em. Just a smattering of trees to avoid on most holes - distance, elevation, and roll-a-ways are the greatest threats on the front. Trees are more significant on #8 and a force to contend with on 9. Many "fun for all" type of holes with low chance of disc loss

• Back-9 = front-9 on steroids: Bigger, bolder, badder, and better. Although it's still fairly open, I'd say holes 10 -18 shed that "nice, park-style" feel and the DG gets more serious, amping up the elevation and bringing trees and brush into play more prominently. Holes require more definitive lines than the front, over greater distances with more intimidating obstacles and OB, and can make you pay for missing your line. Long, humbling uphills and bag emptying downhills, rolling terrain, trees, and a couple of sweeping hyzers and annies... all combine to take things to another level. More fun and challenge for the intermediate and advanced player than the front.

• Equipment: Nice concrete tees, DGA baskets are all in great repair. Signs are basic but effective and graffiti free: hole #, distance to each pin placement, bolt shows current basket location. Signs don't show pin locations relative to tee, but most baskets are visible from the tee, so you don't need to walk too many fairways.
• Routing/Nav: Front flows very well. Back is harder to follow, but isn't really too bad, and the holes on the back are well worth the slightly choppy flow. The maps are pretty accurate. My only complaint is the schlep from front to back.
• Memorable holes: several...
#9 Rises sharply up from the tee pad with a tight line though a well-wooded alley to the open playing surface above - much more intimidating than the course had been to this point. It's a neat hole that hits you like a rude awakening after the previous eight.
#12 about 400' . . . u p h i l l
#13 Monster Ace Run back down the hill you just walked up. I don't care who ya' are, that's fun right there.
#16 Long, slightly downhill bomber with trees guarding the pin.
#18 Strong finishing hole, where a 2 stroke lead may not be safe.
• Aesthetics: Quite pleasant, but nothing out of the ordinary. Some tees attractively dressed up with nice stonework to fight erosion.
• Clean restrooms with running water near #3 basket, and across road from #'s1 & 9.

Cons:

Not without faults, but there's nothing glaringly wrong.
• Could use more holes that dare you to hold a specific line (long sweeping hyzers or annies) and/or a few more technical holes for better overall balance.
• Nicely mowed when I played, but tall, prairie grass defining fairwaiys on the back can swallow discs... at least they ruled it OB, which means it truly impacts the game.
• ¼ mile between front & back nine - who wants to drive to the back 9?

Other Thoughts:

If you like to bomb, then Sioux's for you. Favors distance over placement, especially the front, and even though I like short, technical courses, I can't list this as a con. Big arms should also do well on the back, but the back will make you pay for missing lines, whereas missing lines on the front can be painless. Wind can definitely be a factor here, especially given the distances and the amount of time it gets to work on your disc, so a wide range of stabilities can help.

One could make the argument Sioux Passage is really two different nine-hole courses: front and back are in completely different sections of the park (even have their own parking). They play quite differently and to different skill levels, with the front having little to no rough to avoid, and the back featuring some very significant rough, longer shots and more significant elevation. Nonetheless, it's listed as 18, and together, they provide a reasonably well balanced round.

All in all, I had a blast playing here. Front eases you in and the rolling terrain keeps it from feeling boring. Holes 1-9 are fairly well suited for beginners to intermediates and have a decent fun factor. 18 holes of this would be good to very good. The back made me very glad I stopped here, with more variety, challenge, and a few holes to make you think. 18 holes like this could be phenomenal... that's how I arrived at my rating.
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4thcoffey
Experience: 4 played 1 reviews
4.00 star(s)

2+ years drive by

Reviewed: Played on:Dec 5, 2012 Played the course:once

Pros:

This course is very beautiful. Nice big evergreens offer great scenery. Some holes, like 1 and 4, a large tree is directly in front of the tee box about 30 feet or so, making it extra challenging and fun.

There are some good 'rip it' holes on the front 9 (my favorites are 2 and 6 because you drive over and down a sort of valley.) Other holes require more precision, like 9 where you are maybe 50 feet below the fairway trying to funnel your drive through the narrow opening in the trees above your head - good hole.

Cons:

Not many cons from me. I did get a disc stuck far up a pine tree once. The large, sweeping full branches swallowed my Teebird. Failed attempts to get it out. A guy behind me caught up to me and had a 50 foot ladder in his truck. Thanks to whoever you are.

The trees aren't a real con but it makes me a lot more cautious when throwing near them.

Some trash left on the course.

Streets with traffic may come into play on some holes, especially the back 9.

Other Thoughts:

Top course I've ever played so far. Will be going back soon.
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smokey102977
Experience: 19.2 years 22 played 12 reviews
4.00 star(s)

Mixed emotions 2+ years drive by

Reviewed: Played on:May 19, 2012 Played the course:5+ times

Pros:

Sioux Passage has four pin positions that make the course really easy or extremely difficult depending on the positions, most of the time they are mixed positions making the course really playable. The tee boxes are mostly open with fairly open fairways. The Park Dept. does a great job at cutting the fairways giving you a feeling of a top tier course. The front nine plays like a true park course, while the back nine play more like a links style course with a lot of OB in the wildflower areas and a lot of elevation change.

Cons:

The back nine can wear you out really fast if you haven't had a good meal. Everything is up and down, every hole. If the pins are in the long positions it can make the back 9 a really frustrating round. If you play before or after a tourney expect the pins to be in the longest, hardest placements.

You have to drive from the front nine to the back nine.

Other Thoughts:

Best played in April-May!
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south city flyer
Experience: 15.2 years 24 played 5 reviews
4.00 star(s)

Magnificent Monster of a Course 2+ years drive by

Reviewed: Played on:Mar 6, 2012 Played the course:5+ times

Pros:

-This course literally has everything. Huge, wide open shots across valleys, up hills and down hills, tight wooded shots, everything. There are 700+ foot holes and some that are barely 100 feet, and they all flow very well together.
-The course is always well kept. Hardly any trash, very manicured fairways and greens. Amazing views from some of the tees, especially hole 13, a huge 600 foot downhill shot that you MUST empty your bag on. There are so many ways to play that hole you have to try every possibility.
-Even though the course is split up by about a 1/2 mile drive (which is a nice break from the super long front), each set of 9 feels like a different course, which is a very cool thing in my opinion.
-I have never once had a problem with the course being over played or too crowded. It is pretty far away from the actual city, but it is definitely worth the drive, and I have had the course to myself and my group multiple times.

Cons:

-Very very long holes. This may not be a con, but it is very tiring having to throw 600+ feet 5 or 6 times a round.
-Extremely hilly. Be prepared to have a very exhausting round and be very tired at the tee of hole 18, which is intimidating enough as it is.
-If you shank a drive, you can lose your disc on some holes very easily if you take your eyes off of it. Watch all of your drives and shots to where they land, you can think your shot is going to end, only for it to roll 50+ more feet into tall grass and lose it forever.

Other Thoughts:

If this course were actually in the city, it would be my favorite, no contest. But because I live 10 minutes from Jefferson Barracks as opposed to 45 minutes from Sioux, it will have to take second best to JB. But by no means is this any lesser of a course than JB. Fabulous views, very diverse holes, amazing opportunities to unleash monster drives and watch your disc fly FAR. A very fun round that you must venture out to when in St. Louis.
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j_wilcut
Experience: 13.7 years 20 played 1 reviews
4.00 star(s)

Sioux Passage 2+ years drive by

Reviewed: Played on:Oct 13, 2011 Played the course:once

Pros:

An amazing course that was extremely well maintained. This entire course is beautiful especially on a fall day. Hole 13 was awesome. There were trash bins at every hole I believe.

Cons:

It was really wind. But thats just the nature of the game.
One true con would be that there weren't any benches at the tee pads. Its always nice to take a rest from time to time.

Other Thoughts:

This course is a must play if you are in the STL area.
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Tyler V
Gold level trusted reviewer
Premium Member
Experience: 16.9 years 148 played 99 reviews
4.00 star(s)

A Tough, Long, Open Course That Will Challenge Intermediate To Advanced Players 2+ years

Reviewed: Updated: Played on:Oct 9, 2021 Played the course:5+ times

Pros:

Sioux Passage's original disc golf course is full of hills, long fairways, and opportunities to rip drivers. This course is among the older courses in St. Louis, being installed in the mid 90's, and remains a fun place to play disc golf even as newer and arguably better courses pop up in the area.

Location of Sioux Passage is just about the northern most tip of St. Louis County, being up against the Missouri River not far from its junction with the Mississippi. It's not the most straightforward course to get to, but it is close enough to courses in Alton or North County to make it part of a potential full day of course bagging. This was also the first park in the area to get a second 18 hole, with the shorter Biscoe Woods course making for a full 36-hole complex. Gas and food options aren't super close to the park, but you're sure to pass some as you make you way to the park.

Park Amenities within Sioux Passage's large property include bathrooms, water fountains, tennis courts, a basketball court, fishing (follow Missouri Wildlife Code), two playgrounds, a boat dock, hiking/walking trails, and horseback trails (B.Y.O.H). This park is also considered a winter park complex, with parts of the park being used for sledding, snow moiling, and cross-country skiing. Camping sites and 3 reservable shelters are also scattered around the park.

Course Equipment is all still in good shape at Sioux Passage despite some age showing. I'm not sure when signage was upgraded at this course, but it's a big step above what was here before. Each sign has a hole layout, pin locations, pars, distances, next tee locations, and a marker to note which pin is in use. The baskets are older Mach 3s, but I haven't had an issue with them yet in my rounds here. The tee pads are all concrete and are long enough for most run ups by people who aren't James Conrad.

Course Design at Sioux Passage is mainly long, open, and hilly, with plenty of opportunities to rip different shot shapes with the drivers in your bag. This course also takes the double loop design to a new level, with the front and back 9s being separated by a short drive. This helps maximize space to keep from trying to cram 18 holes in a smaller plot. Overall, if you are a fan of mixed terrain and a variety of uphill and downhill shots, you will be at home at Sioux Passage.

Variety is present in many ways at Sioux Passage. The front 9 is mostly a mix of longer open fairways, sprinkled with some more technical shots like on holes 7 and 9. Holes 4 and 8 also have pin locations within the tree line, requiring you to hit a RHBH hyzer at the right distance to challenge for a birdie. The back 9 is more extreme with elevation, with the first half of this area being pure downhill or uphill shots. While there are some more technical aspects to the back 9, most of it is more open, and requires you to hit certain drive angles to avoid tree lines or unforgiving prairie.

Course Difficulty probably best suits those who are intermediate and up in skill. The distances alone on this course make for a taxing round if you don't have much arm speed. There are also added obstacles that could also make for a difficult time for newer players, such as tough tee shots like on hole 9, or the prairie grass that is present around the last 5 holes of the course.

Course Highlights - Hole 13 has to be mentioned, as this is a 380 to 560-ish foot downhill hole has nothing in your way. With a treeline way to the right and a street to the left being your only obstacles, this is a hole where you will be very tempted to empty your bag. Definitely one of the most fun holes in St. Louis in my opinion. Hole 9 also comes to mind, being a tough 200-ish foot uphill shot through woods followed by another 250-ish feet to the pin, requiring two well placed and different shots to get a good score.

Cons:

Course Equipment isn't in bad shape, per say, but is showing its age. The baskets are clearly older, and with many other courses in the area getting upgrades or new installations recently, it'll be nice to see Sioux Passage get it's turn soon. Hole 16 is also missing a tee sign; luckily, this is one of the more straightforward holes on the course so even if you don't have UDisc, you can figure out what to do.

Prairie Grass and Other Obstacles can be a con for many on this course. The prairie grass on the back 9 can be very unforgiving when it's fully grown in, and any errant throw can easily lead to a lost disc, even if it doesn't leave the fairway by much. The is also poison ivy around, both in the prairie grass and other wooded areas, so be careful looking for discs after bad shots.

Physical Demands of this course may keep disc golfers with mobility issues or less stamina from having a good time. The front 9 has some hills to be sure, but the back 9 especially will test your legs if you don't exercise much. There's also not a lot of shade on this course, especially in the back 9, so St. Louis Summers can certainly compound the physical demands. Make sure you hydrate if you're tackling this course, especially in July or August. My friend and I tend to be on the quicker side on casual rounds, and this course took us 2 and a half hours to complete.

Course Design may have some cons for folks depending on preferences. The course plays essentially as two separate 9 holes, with the two sets of 9 being a far enough that walking isn't worth it. There is parking at both 9-hole locations, but some may find this to be excessive in the middle of a round. I personally welcome the break before hiking up hole 10. Also, while there are some shorter holes among the original 18, they are few and far between, so anyone who doesn't like facing consistent bomber fairways are not going to have a fun time on this course.

Location of this course isn't as accessible as many others in the area, as it's not as close to highways or main roads. Not a big con, but if you're looking for an easy course to get to while passing through or visiting the area, most other courses around St. Louis will check this box better than Sioux.

Grass Length - While this hasn't been an issue for me yet on this course, it seems like this is another park in the county that can go a while before getting mowed.

Other Thoughts:

Upon first reviewing this course in 2001, I declared it St. Louis's best with 5 stars; Younger Tyler might have been a little extreme with that rating. About 85 courses played later, and I would now personally consider this course a 3.5 to a 4, swinging closer to a 4. While it may have had an argument for St. Louis's best course a decade ago, I would say that newer courses in the area, as well as enhancements to others, have taken Sioux Passage out of that conversation for me personally.

That isn't to say Sioux Passage isn't a fun or good course. Located a little more off the beaten path, I feel like this course doesn't get as much love as some others in the area. That's a shame too, as it has a high fun factor if you have a decent arm. This is one of the older courses in the area, being one of the 90's installations along with Endicott, JB, and Quail Ridge. While other courses may come up more often when asked about the top courses in the area, Sioux Passage makes for a nice sleeper pic that shouldn't be immediately overlooked.

Come check out Sioux Passage if you have a power arm for drives and like to use it or enjoy some elevation challenges. If you want some variety, make time to also check out Biscoe Woods, the second 18 in the park that is shorter and more technical with more trees in play. If you are still working on drive accuracy or distance, most of the other courses in North St. Louis or Alton will make for good options to practice at as you work up to Sioux Passage. And for your own sake, if you go to Sioux Passage - Original 18 in the Summer: hydrate. And then hydrate some more. And maybe opt for an early morning round.
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peabody
Bronze level trusted reviewer
Experience: 21.1 years 55 played 34 reviews
4.00 star(s)

A St. Louis must play course 2+ years

Reviewed: Played on:Nov 13, 2010 Played the course:once

Pros:

Level and long concrete tees! DGA Mach's in very good/new condition. Bathrooms and ample parking. Well manicured fairways. Good variety of shots a good use of the hills that adorn this beautiful well kept park. Good people ( thanks Mike and Phil).

Cons:

Too much walking back up the hill for the next shot, esp. on the front nine. Hole #9 you have to walk down a steep hill just to throw back up the steep hill. Tee signs just gave the position of the pin and distances.
You have to drive to the back nine.
The out of bounds tall grass that adorns the back nine was mowed down as of this review so I never got to see it or utilize it's fairway shaping hazards.
No cards and the kiosk had no maps.

Other Thoughts:

Hole 1 is a great starting hole. It sets the tone for the first few holes. Wind can play a role on this course so watch out for the road.
Hole 7 is the best hole on the course as far as I am concerned. Very tough tight first shot or you might try a crazy hyzer way out to the right. The chances of hitting wood here are 60% or better.
The back nine starts out with a long uphill dogleg left that will really test the big arms. If you throw 275 like me the disc will only end up about 180 and halfway up the hill.
The tee on #12 is the final resting place on the back nine. I guess during the hot summer that tee gets backed up with golfers cooling off there. Of course #13 downhill is the funnest hole here, long downhill that will make us all look like Nate Doss.
18 is a great finishing hole and the winding road to the right makes for some Preparation -H- moments.
While in St. Louis stop by here and then go down the road a bit and check out White Birch , the oldest course in Mo.
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notapro
Diamond level trusted reviewer
Premium Member
Experience: 20.8 years 569 played 284 reviews
4.00 star(s)

Nearly Championship 2+ years

Reviewed: Played on:Sep 5, 2010 Played the course:once

Pros:

- Course is spread out extremely well in a large park, to the point where driving to the back nine is a good idea. A little hassle for a great return, the course is enormous. Definitely a long course regardless of the pin positions, and the pro pars carry their weight.
- Excellent use of the hilly terrain to provide extreme elevation changes on many holes. The gargantuan downhill shot on #13 is truly a sight to behold. It is complemented by many steep uphill shots that play well over the stated distance. Holes with average slopes (for this course at least) are still very much affected, to the point where the flatter holes become new and exciting.
- Diverse mix of dense forest, small tree groves, and large matures trees where appropriate. Holes with clear fairways have ample forested hazards, usually on both sides, that are very dense and very punishing. Medium rough is also present on holes, which plays O.B. in some situations. Hole #18 even has a drop zone, which basically amounts to a mando fairway. Many other holes use the large and low trees to force very accurate shots off the tee and throughout long fairways.
- Great tee pads and baskets.

Cons:

- Overall, the course is pretty open. There aren't many well defined routes to the basket, mostly just avoiding trees while staying in the wide fairways. Some holes feel more like a driving range with obstacles, as opposed to having critical landing spots for the next shot. That is nitpicking, of course.
- Tee signs are very basic - a list of the different positions and distances, with a bolt to signify the current placement. Bolts were sometimes in the wrong hole, which could be frustrating the first time through. Course can be tricky to navigate the first time, make sure to get a scorecard or study the map.
- Some holes play by the entrance road and the parking lot, but they can be avoided for the most part.

Other Thoughts:

- This course is a lesson in elevation, as almost every hole has a long slope, hill, or valley to contend with. Most of the shorter holes make great use of hazards or elevation to provide extra challenge, and there is a great mix of open and hazardous bomber holes as well. The only thing that really keeps this course from being championship level is the lack of multi-shot holes with mandatory pathways/obvious landing zones, and tight fairways to force very specific lines.
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discoholic
Experience: 15.9 years 123 played 8 reviews
4.00 star(s)

Go the distance 2+ years drive by

Reviewed: Played on:May 27, 2010 Played the course:5+ times

Pros:

This park feels like it was designed to contain a disk golf course. Sioux is a long and mostly open course, in a beautiful and well manicured landscape. The scattered trees will play defense, but elevation is the real challenge here. You need distance, and accuracy to negotiate this course. Despite the challenge this is a very fair course.

The front nine plays over rolling hills and through well placed trees. #2 and #6 play across a deep valley and favor distance. #5 and #8 have the baskets tucked into the woods, and make you think before you throw. #7 and #9 are unique for this course. #7 is through a stand a tight trees. #9's tee shot is a 100' hallway up a hill to reach the fairway.

You have to drive to the back nine, it's a short drive / long walk.

The back nine starts out up hill, then down hill, and then up hill again. #13 makes all that hill climbing worth while. It's 100' down and 600' of driving fun. You will want to empty your bag. #15 is payback, it plays back up the 100'. The 666' distance says it all. There are wild grass areas that are out of bounds and come into play on at least 4 holes. #18 can be a beast when it's at 800'.

This is a championship course all the way. Every hole offers a fun challenge. There are concrete pads with 3-4 pin placements. Good bathrooms and drinking fountain across the street from the first tee. Port a Potty at 10th tee. Playground for the kids.

Cons:

This course is hard to navigate. The signs need maps, the distance to the pin is not good enough on this course. Even after 20+ rounds I would still like a map at the tee. I would really like to give this course a 4 1/2 but it needs better signs.

If it's your first time and you don't have a map....
On the park road stay left, first tee at second parking on left, across from bathroom / playground. You'll see baskets on your left.
#8 to #9 follow one of the paths in the woods down hill.
#9 to #10 drive farther down the road you came in on to the next parking.
#10 to #11 follow the gravel road to the right, or take a path through the wild grass area. Respect the course, take the road.
#11 to #12 turn around and look for the orange flags in the woods. The tee is in those woods.

The mosquitoes can be intense. Don't throw into the long grass, it's long.

Other Thoughts:

The disk golf gods must mow the grass. Its always short, but I've never seen anyone cutting it.

You can see the Missouri river if you want. Stay right on your way out after the back nine.
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joesiya
Experience: 23 played 4 reviews
4.00 star(s)

Great Course 2+ years drive by

Reviewed: Played on:Feb 27, 2010 Played the course:5+ times

Pros:

Beautiful, long course with a variety of shots. Long fairways for the big armed player. Variety of pin positions that are frequently alternated. Low volume course. Worth the drive, on of the bests in the St. Louis area.

Cons:

Hole #9 is treacherous when wet and some of the tees/holes on the back nine are hard to find for the first timer with no map.
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bogeybogey
Experience: 15 years 25 played 8 reviews
4.00 star(s)

A Must Play 2+ years drive by

Reviewed: Played on:Sep 2, 2009 Played the course:once

Pros:

I read reviews online here before going out yesterday and I was even more surprised when I got there, great use of the landscape given, plenty of reachable holes, like 2,3,6,11,14 yet also has a good mix of more difficult hyzers at 5, 8 specially. 4 and 9, especially 9 is so unusual I had so much fun..great course.not too difficult if you can throw a basic hyzer and annie. Get ready for sweating the hills can be more demanding on your legs than expected.

Cons:

It was my first time playing, i knew i had to drive over to te other side, dosent mean that I liked it. Also finding pins on 5 8 etc...was cumbersome.

Other Thoughts:

A must play for St. Louis. Donttake Howdershell/Shakleford all the way up...way too slow
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odysseus81
Silver level trusted reviewer
Experience: 26.9 years 99 played 35 reviews
4.00 star(s)

Let it Fly 2+ years drive by

Reviewed: Played on:Aug 29, 2009 Played the course:5+ times

Pros:

This is a great course to reach back and let it fly. One of the most fun "open" courses I hve played. There are plenty of well placed tree clusters and tons of changes in elevation. These along with quite a bit of rough on the back nine make for a very challenging course. The park is beautiful and well maintained, with fairly minimal foot traffic. Hole #9 is absolutely ridiculous...whoever put it together.

Cons:

I have very few...I really love this course. The signage could be a lot better. Especially on the back nine, there are some spots that are very easy to get turned around trying to find the next tee. Wear long pants, because wandering around in the tall grass looking for a disk is very likely.

Other Thoughts:

One of my two favorite St. Louis courses...if you are coming to the area make sure you check it out...you won't be disappointed.
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Adgeri
Experience: 15.8 years 6 played 6 reviews
4.00 star(s)

very challenging course 2+ years drive by

Reviewed: Played on:Jul 28, 2009 Played the course:once

Pros:

The play was very challenging. There is a lot of open space to throw on the front nine. The course is has pretty fair pars but is still a demanding course. The holes are lengthy without being obnoxious. There are a lot of both downhill and uphill shots.

Cons:

After the first bunch of holes, there is no clear indicator of the next box in some areas. A couple of holes had pins that were very difficult to spot as well. I think it's crazy that you're expected to drive from hole 9 to hole 10.
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mashnut
Diamond level trusted reviewer
Experience: 22.2 years 831 played 777 reviews
4.00 star(s)

Beautiful course! 2+ years drive by

Reviewed: Updated: Played on:Sep 7, 2010 Played the course:2-4 times

Pros:

Playing this course felt very much like playing disc golf on a ball golf course, with beautifully manicured and well-defined grassy fairways, and lots of great length. The park is gorgeous, and seemed pretty empty when I played, which I found surprising. The course plays up and down lots of hills, and through some beautiful mature trees.

The design of this course utilizes the park very well. There are all kinds of shots required here, from loooong open bombs to more technical tighter shots. There was a nice mix of wide open holes with some that had scattered trees to avoid, and even a few more wooded holes. Many holes play up or down large hills, and the elevation available was used perfectly. Though the course is pretty open, it still forces a decent mix of left and right turning shots to avoid the trees, and some low ceilings come into play to make you hit some tighter lines.

The tees were all nice large concrete pads, and all were in good shape. The tee signs were easy to see from a distance to find the next tee, and clearly indicated which pin position the basket was currently in. It's clear a lot of work goes into keeping this course in good shape, and this made it a very enjoyable disc golf experience.

Cons:

I would have liked to see maps on many of the tee signs. There are a lot of holes where the pin is not obvious from the tee, and just the distance to the pin was not enough. A few holes had the pin position marked incorrectly the last time I played, though that wasn't an issue the first time through. It was a little frustrating on some blind holes where you think you know where you're throwing but the pin is in a totally different place.

It would have also been nice to have a course map available, either on scorecards or just at the beginning of the course. This would have helped with navigation in a few spots where multiple tees are visible, and made the split between the front and back nines much easier to figure out.

Other Thoughts:

Be ready to throw lots of long drives on this course, there are a ton of holes with great length where you can really rip it. This course is beautiful and challenging, and makes for a great day of disc golfing. Beginners might find the course length daunting, though there are shorter courses around the area. More experienced players will be challenged, especially to place shots on the longer holes to set up the next throw, I love this kind of challenge on multi-shot holes.

After you play the front 9, follow the road you came into the park on, and look for a gravel parking lot, that's where the back 9 starts and ends.
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hognosesucker
Gold level trusted reviewer
Experience: 25 years 443 played 87 reviews
4.00 star(s)

2+ years drive by

Reviewed: Updated: Played on:Mar 15, 2009 Played the course:2-4 times

Pros:

Beautiful, well groomed county park with many facilities, ie running water, bathrooms, shelter with electric, several parking lots.

Great concrete tees, waste baskets on almost every hole. Multiple pin placements (3-4) per hole.

Front nine long and open, with four holes that play partially through the woods, for example 2 of the four the pins are usually tucked into the woods, one plays out from the woods into the open. Good use of elevation. Number 2 and 6 play over a huge ravine, number 4 plays up a long gradual uphill.

Back nine also long and open, but all the prairie grass is ob, prairie grass comes into play on 10 and 11(to a lesser extent), 12, 16, 17, and 18. Then the road is in play on 13 (a fun, huge, down hill shot with road on the left, tough to stay in-bounds, but be ready to throw extra discs) 15 and 18 also have road ob to a lesser extent.

Cons:

Not a lot of cons here, just ones that get under my skin a bit

for example: you have to drive from the front nine to the back nine, you can walk but it's probably a quarter mile down a big hill to the parking lot for the back. Not a huge variety of holes, I would have liked to see some tight wooded holes as there are a lot of bottom areas and wooded areas.

The tee signs are cool, they have the different distances for each placement and then put by the current placement, however there is no hole map on the tee signs so I can imagine someone unfamiliar with the course saying 'okay it's 450 ft but in which direction?'

It may also be hard to find your way between holes, I was lucky to play for the first time with some people that had played there before, so it was fairly straight forward.

Other Thoughts:

This is a must-play course. It's fairly underused, as I understand, but the county still does a great job taking care of the course grounds, and no waiting. Go play sioux passage.
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tdortch
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Experience: 16.9 years 84 played 34 reviews
4.00 star(s)

Hike & Play 2+ years drive by

Reviewed: Played on:Mar 2, 2009 Played the course:once

Pros:

Very nice, well maintained park. Most people have already covered all of that anyway, but it is a great looking course. My big surprise was reading that this course doesn't get much play. If I lived here, I would play it much more often than JB or Endicott (the only other two courses I have played here). I''m not knocking either of those courses, as they are great for what they are, but Sioux Passage is just something special. There are Hyzer and Anhyzer shots, uphill (and I mean BIG uphill) and downhill, trails to walk around on if you wanna take a break, technical and wide open holes. That being said, most of the wide open holes are pretty long and some are long and uphill. Big fun, so long as you don't expect to 2 or 3 everything. I loved it. One of my favorite courses to date.

Cons:

- I didn't really find the distance between the front and back a con, but only because a friend told me about it and advised that I drive down there. Very good advice, 'cause after that back nine, I was kinda wiped out. But, the weird thing is, there is no mention of it anywhere on the "Disc Golf Information" sign that's right by the 1st tee. I would bet that some folks think it's only a 9-holer.
- No course map or scorecards.
- WTF is it with St Louis courses and the lack of maps at the tees? You either walk the course twice (up to see the pin, back to tee off, then back again), or throw and pray. Both suck in my book.
- The tee box for 9 is in a ridiculous spot. Straight down a hill, only to walk straight back up it. Maybe 8 has a pin placement that puts you down there already, but if not, stoopid!

Note though that most of these will only effect the first-timer, although I only saw one pin position. I could be just as lost next time if they are in different locations. So, come on StL Disc Golf Club, make us some friggin signs already!

Other Thoughts:

Even with all of my gripes about signage, I'll play this course every time I get a chance. Absolutely a must play if you're in the area.

A few nuggets:
- Hole 7 - very narrow tunnel shot that is also uphill to a blind basket. Wild!
- Hole 11 - big downhill annie shot with the basket tucked in right behind some trees.
- Hole 13 - my favorite on the course! It was in the 548' position and me and my weenie arm drove it about 480 - 490, which is about 180 longer than i can normally throw. Awesome view from the tee pad to a way downhill basket surrounded by pine trees. If I had a 4 wheeler to get back up there, I'd play that one several times!
- Hole 16 - 615', mostly downhill with what I guess was OB grass on each side. (it's a guess because of...NO SIGNS!). Cool hole though. Ends right by a basketball court.

Stop here. Bring your GPS, lots of water, and good shoes.
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milythael
Experience: 25.9 years 16 played 1 reviews
4.00 star(s)

My Favorite Course in St. Louis 2+ years drive by

Reviewed: Played on:Nov 1, 2008 Played the course:5+ times

Pros:

Great use of hills and elevation change. On the front nine there are several opportunities to just let her rip. The whole course is beautiful.

Cons:

Some of the holes are very long for the casual player. It can sometimes be hard to figure out where the next tee is, like on nine where the tee is buried 80 feet into the woods and down a hill.

Other Thoughts:

Bring water with you, especially on the back nine. You climb the same huge hill three times on the back nine. The last 3 holes are pretty technical so if your stamina isn't up to snuff, you might consider playing the back nine first.
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Purple Dog
Experience: 5 played 5 reviews
4.00 star(s)

The prettiest I've played. 2+ years drive by

Reviewed: Played on:Aug 25, 2008 Played the course:once

Pros:

Everyone seems impressed with how well this course is maintained.......and I can see why. The grass, the trees, and the overall spaciousness of this course make it a "have-to-play". We played it on a Saturday and there was only one other group out there. It's just a really nice course set in a scenic location. Overall, it's mostly open but there are just enough trees to combine with the rolling terrain to keep it interesting.

Cons:

It's long. If you don't have a big arm, you'll probably get a little frustrated. I played it with my wife and daughter and they were ready to leave after the front 9.

You have to drive to the back 9 and I found that a little odd. The back 9 also had a guy practicing archery right beside one of the baskets. (definitely not a good idea) And it also had a group of 20-25 people sliding down a hill on a block of ice. Some of the holes are hard to find unless you've played here before.

It's quite a ways out to this course. If we hadn't brought the Garmin, I'm not sure we would've found it.

Other Thoughts:

If you're in St. Louis, you'll definitely want to play this one.
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