Hole 17 has two positions. The short position to the left is a touch shot with a small gap. Any player throwin this position should disc up and rip a controlled drive threw the gap. Don't be afraid to go long because behind the basket is a rock face that will stop your disc in its spot. The long position is deep to the right down the road and requires a really good straight drive. Hole is probably 350 feet and straight. If your laying up just hyzer one down the road pas lt the first tree barrier on the left. Both sides of the road have trees and objects to deal with. Even if you miss the trees on the right, if your disc doesn't come back enough to the road then your going to land on a down slope with potential to roll down even more. If your unsure just throw a disc that will go far and finish left. It's Safire then the right side.