- Fairly well marked fairways and paths in between. The navigation wasn't perfect but wasn't terrible either.
- Baskets are Mach-somethings and in pretty good shape.
- Nice use of elevation. Lots of ups, downs and everything in between.
- Variety was refreshing. All sorts of left, right, sharp turns, straightaways and such. While there are holes that are very long and difficult there are a few that are true ace-runs. #1, #7 and #14 come to mind.
- Some of these holes I felt were true par 4s that even pros might struggle to par. I am thinking holes like 17 possibly.
- There's a lot of risk/reward strategy here. #7 is a good example. Miss the fairway to the left and wow...there's a LONG way down a steep slope. So this course really rewards good placement rather than long tee shots.
- Concrete tees are in fantastic shape. Good and grippy even in the wet.
- I dragged a cart around here just fine by the way. It is pretty hilly - not like Johnson Park in Grand Rapids hilly - so cart-owners ought to find this place manageable.
- The course is pay to play but I mean come on...$2 is not at all unreasonable.
- There wasn't a bench at every tee box (I think) but there were a lot of them and I sure appreciated that.
- Not sure if this is a product of the time of year I played this course (early spring) but there wasn't a lot of trash on the course. There were trash cans throughout.

- There are alternate tees here and in some cases the really added nothing to the course IMHO. These "AM" tees were merely slightly shorter versions of the "PRO" tees in most cases.
- Really did not care for the gimmicky "signature" hole #14 with its absurdly narrow double mando. I get the concept of the hole...I guess but it really did nothing for me. I was here when the course was particularly wet and there really is no place to lay up in conditions like that. Had the 50' or so feet in front of the basket been completely dry and could be practically used as a layup zone then it wouldn't bother me. With the flooded fairway though this hole unnecessarily tough to play.
- While some of the navigation was good some of it really needs improvement. Not a lot, just a few more next-tee signs or something like that would be handy.

Reading through some of the other reviews I am having a hard time understanding some of the hate for this course. This isn't an easy course and I don't think it is meant to be so maybe those ratings are from folks who can't throw in the woods too well. As stated this is a hilly course so IMHO good footwear is a must more so than your average course.

One thing to keep an eye on is there is a walking path through the course and like a lot of parks of this nature, walkers are often oblivious to the disc golf so they occasionally stray onto the course I noticed when I was there. The park does have signage indicating to the walkers where the course is but not everyone pays attention.

Expect to have this course kick your tail and enjoy every moment of it.

Nice course with good mix of shots. Great place to practice for shaping those lines and tricky touch shots. Very well kept, lots of love in care put into this course Cudos to the persons taking care of It. I dropped a 5 spot in the honor box.

Pro Ts could be longer

Glad I got to play the course

Well done for the most part:
• Nice mix of fairway shapes, elevation changes, and pin placements make good use of the land's natural elements to create a course that's challenging, visually appealing and fun to play. Elevation is well employed to add interest, variety, and challenge. Many shots play shorter or longer than posted distances (e.g. 15's uphill lie is deceptively long).
• Fairways provide ample chances for hyzers, annies, (some quite sharp), FH's, tommies/thumbers (likely to come in handy when you leave the fairway.
• Several pins placed near drop-offs and slopes with downhill approaches will have you thinking twice about going for it on longer putts, and really reward tee shots that get past the obstacles to set up quality looks at the pin as opposed to long putts that are makeable, but could easily go from birdie to bogie due to a nasty roll-aways or misses that carry way past the pin.
• Course will make you pay for leaving the fairway or missing certain putts long, or too far L or R.
• Navigation is pretty simple as most of the paths from basket to next tee are already pretty obvious and the tee markers are simple yet effective. Next tee signs are present in the few spots that are confusing, and along with the scorecard/map (available at the parking lot) should keep most people moving along nicely on a course that flows pretty well.
• Concrete tees are nice sized, fairly grippy, and are elevated just enough to drain well and keep water from collecting around the tee, but still allow for a seamless follow through without worrying about that first step off the pad.
• Solid benches and trash cans every 2-3 holes (I like the way they staked the trash cans to keep critters from tipping them over).
• Thoughtful extras: Blue paver bricks with a white "10" indicate when you're 10m out and tee posts that give the elevation change from tee to pin along with score card/map, pencils, etc., help to give the overall impression of a quality course - well done.
• Does a good job co-existing with the walking paths and while there's a decent chance you'll encounter non-player traffic, you're not likely to be throwing into it.

They got way more right than they did wrong, but here's what else I thought:
• No really open "grip-n-rip" shots (to be honest, I didn't really miss 'em because a few holes play open enough).
• The rough can be really rough, but it's not all that bad in some spots - it all depends where you miss the fairway and by how much. For example, it's actually not as bad as nearby Chilson Woods or some of the new holes at Stony Creek, or 19-27 at Kensington when those went in.
• 9 holes have dual tees, but half of them are just another 60 ft or so longer without really changing the look or shot very much.
• Not a fan of Hole 14: a short water carry over a swampy gulch that seems pretty easy, except for two sections of wooden fence that guard the green with maybe a 15 foot gap you have to hit to land on the green. Hit the fence, and your disc bounces into "The Gulch." Some may think it's cute, and no doubt many will throw tommies/thumbers, or spike Hyzers to get over it all and tombstone into the green, for a deuce, but I think it's contrived, gimmicky, and an unnecessary risk of disc loss, especially if the water level in The Gulch is high. That said, it quite literally is a quintessential "Deuce or Die" hole.
• I'm worried that in time, the sand around the tees will wash away, leaving more of a drop-off and ruts for water to collect in. A layer of crushed or pea gravel might help - but I can't really complain about something that hasn't happened yet.

Few new courses feel as complete or play as cleanly as this does. The fairways seem relatively natural, and while I'm sure a lot of work went into clearing underbrush, branches and other growth, the fairways seem quite natural and don't have the feel that numerous trees were sacrificed to establish them. I have no clue if that's actually the case - that's simply the impression I got playing here.

More technical than it is long, distance is not required to score well here (even from the long tees). This course is all about placement and execution. Miss your window off the tee, and what could have been an easy 2 or 3 could certainly turn into a 4 or 5. Despite how tight many of the holes are, there are a few holes that are "open enough" to keep you from feeling claustrophobic.
I have no problem with the $2/round donation - it's in line with the going rate in the area. Hopefully it goes toward course maintenance. I just hope people have the morality not to abuse the honor system, as it's simply a locked drop box.

This course is very challenging which is a good and bad thing as many have said. The first and really second hole were very nice and my friend and I almost aced it.

I love the way the course was professionally installed, it felt like a regular golf course. I chalk it up to being new, but there was no graffiti and that was a positive. (I don't need a "disc charger" on every bench). I loved the 10 meter brick and wished more courses around the area would install one (however I feel like someone would pull them out). The rough was overgrown and as my friend and I stated that it needs more traffic to stomp out some of that rough. But, the fairways were nicely mowed.

Hole 14 was a cool looking hole, but I disliked that you HAD to go through the gate. I feel like the average player would never get it through there. My buddy did but I was off to the left in the trees about five feet(OB).

There was also a nice mix of anhyzers, hyzers, long, and short shots. I didn't feel like it favored one type of player over another.

For the cons, I feel this course is very challenging for the average player. As we started towards hole 1, some older gents told us that they had lots of 4's and 5's, and no 2's. That had me concerned. My fears were received later in the round as the course went into the woods.

My main complaint is the somewhat ridiculousness of some of the holes. One hole was an uphill (up a car driving path) and even with a well placed shot, you were still about 40-50 feet away. Plus, two cars almost hit us as they were driving up the path! This main path connects about 5-6 holes. That was not very good. Plus, I don't really like throwing my discs on rocky drive way paths. Oh yea, and the shot was WAY up hill.

Another hole was almost a complete C shot, and I got a 7 on it. After that I was pretty cross about the course. That was hole 15 or 16 I believe. There was a lot of terrain changes, elevation changes, and tight shots too. Sometimes you were happy with a 4 even when the hole was 280 feet.

Several holes were very narrow, and would be very hard for beginning/average players to hit. I felt there should be more open holes where you can air out your shot. I think with a bit of tweeking and some trees being cut down, some of those wooded holes could be neat. This course reminded me of Holly Woods before it was changed and modified. The signature hole was great, but very hard to hit between the 15 foot gap between the fences.

Lastly, as others have said, even with a good drive on holes, you had little to no chance to get a two even from the AM tee boxes which we played. My friend had a good round, he had three twos with a few missed opportunities, and I had several chances as well. I think a good score on this course would be a -5 to -6. But, for all the missed chances, we had several 4's and 5's.

I think with some tweaking and cutting down trees for some of the narrower holes, this course could be a 5 star course. It was difficult sometimes just to say it was difficult. Some better course design and input could really help new players out.

I am also very worried that there was no one to monitor the course donation box, and I feel like this course could get really torn up from vandals. Courses like Hudson, Kennsington, and Seymour, all are kept up nicely thanks to a park person being there to monitor who comes and goes. Yes, those are Metroparks, but this course for as much time and effort that went into it deserves to be well-kept.

Time will tell about the course and I think that it has a lot of potential to be a great course.

- Extremely well installed, especially for a grand opening. Usually courses aren't so ready when they open. This one already looks established on the first day. Cement tees, signs, message board, donation box, carved out fully, mowed.
- The holes in the field area are pretty good overall (1-3, 15-18).
- The challenging nature of the shots required is both a pro and a con to some degree.
- Super exposure for the sport, and will alleviate traffic at Kensington.
- Surprisingly little ivy, 4-5 holes are bad, but the rest is actually not.
- Potential with a little re-arranging to be 4-4.5 stars.

- The rough is ROUGH. Newer players will lose disc(s) every round, some holes have little landing zones for a new player, and punishing kicks down steep ravines.
- I can't get behind the short par-4 concept of the course, from the long tees, have not played the short tees.
- Basically, it felt designed to be tough for the sake of being tough. I see Pros shooting 49- 55's on this 5,000 ft. 18 hole layout. In my opinion, a course where those would be good score for a Pro should be closer to 6,500 ft. long.
- About half the holes left me laying up 200-250ft simple drives to then toss a putter 50-100 ft to lay up for an easy 3. I felt like there was no reward for a good drive- as no line was offered up to even allow you to run at a park job on holes that would otherwise be reachable with a midrange for many players. It was a round of 13 3's, and I didn't really miss any deuce putts.
- For examples: Hole #4 long tee- a 365 ft hole that basically requires you to hyzerflip up the gap (at first it looks good), but even an amazing shot by a skilled thrower will very likely never, or rarely, land within 50 ft, leaving you to have to nail a long putt every time to have a chance to deuce a not very long hole.
- Hole #5 long, I threw a champion Monster sidearm, hit the gap cleanly and watched if fade well to the right, yet it still landed 45' left of the basket, I can't see getting much closer with any disc I've ever thrown, yet the hole is only 280'.
- To sum up: It seems to lack reward for good throws.

Hopefully this can be taken as constructive criticism, and maybe I'm the only one who feels this way. I do appreciate all the hard work that went into this course, and it is fun to play.
I see a possible future of Cass-hole invasion out there due to it's location and no park entry fee, etc. Hopefully the good golfers can police the course.

Not trying to hate! I respect the work that went into it. I hope it wears in or can be altered a little to allow you to drive at the baskets.

Or, maybe I just suck at this game. There is always that.