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The Hollows - North reviews
5
1
JimBailey175
Experience:
11.7 years
43 played
8 reviews
Lots of potential! 2+ years drive by
Reviewed:
Played on:Jul 14, 2016
Played the course:5+ times
Pros:
+Solid new course in an under-served disc golf region
+City did a great job clearing fairway and fringes of brush and debris.
+Pre-cast concrete tee pads are the best around!
+Lots of variety here with long, short, and recreational tees as well as short/long pin positions (rotating)
+City did a great job clearing fairway and fringes of brush and debris.
+Pre-cast concrete tee pads are the best around!
+Lots of variety here with long, short, and recreational tees as well as short/long pin positions (rotating)
Cons:
-Several holes are "throw and hope," particularly from long tees. To varying degrees, they include 2, 8, 11, 13, and 15.
-Many tee pads are poorly positioned with respect to the intended line OR have obstacles right next to or in front of the tee that are frustrating if not dangerous: 4 long (sign), 5 long (tree), 12 long (tree), 15 long (wtf?), 17 short (tree).
-Signage on long tees only. If you're playing shorts and you want to know distances or fairway shape, turn around and walk back to the long tees.
-Not particularly scenic or memorable.
-Aside from hole 3 where it adds challenge to an "easy" hole, use of OB is frustrating and unnecessary. OB's on 5, 6, 7 punish bad kicks more-so than aggressive shots or "cheater lines". Your shot selection is no different with/without the OB it just turns bogeys into double-bogeys when you miss.
-The difference between "short" and "long" pin positions is almost negligible on several holes and doesn't really change your shot choice(s): 2, 5, 6, 15, 18
-Many tee pads are poorly positioned with respect to the intended line OR have obstacles right next to or in front of the tee that are frustrating if not dangerous: 4 long (sign), 5 long (tree), 12 long (tree), 15 long (wtf?), 17 short (tree).
-Signage on long tees only. If you're playing shorts and you want to know distances or fairway shape, turn around and walk back to the long tees.
-Not particularly scenic or memorable.
-Aside from hole 3 where it adds challenge to an "easy" hole, use of OB is frustrating and unnecessary. OB's on 5, 6, 7 punish bad kicks more-so than aggressive shots or "cheater lines". Your shot selection is no different with/without the OB it just turns bogeys into double-bogeys when you miss.
-The difference between "short" and "long" pin positions is almost negligible on several holes and doesn't really change your shot choice(s): 2, 5, 6, 15, 18
Other Thoughts:
Old DD baskets were the worst-catching permanent baskets I'd ever played on with a high tendency for dead-center spitbacks. New DD baskets recently installed are a huge improvement and definitely professional-quality.
With minor tweaks this course could be really great, in my opinion. My rating would jump by a point or more just by a) losing a few more trees to create reasonable fairways for the "throw and hope" holes and b) reposition the teepads to align with the fairways where necessary.
The city has thrown big resources into creating this facility and there efforts are both evident and appreciated. In the short time it's been open it's drawn lots of traffic and introduced many new players to the sport. I wouldn't travel to play this course if it weren't in my backyard but my fingers are crossed that it gets the adjustments it needs and deserves.
With minor tweaks this course could be really great, in my opinion. My rating would jump by a point or more just by a) losing a few more trees to create reasonable fairways for the "throw and hope" holes and b) reposition the teepads to align with the fairways where necessary.
The city has thrown big resources into creating this facility and there efforts are both evident and appreciated. In the short time it's been open it's drawn lots of traffic and introduced many new players to the sport. I wouldn't travel to play this course if it weren't in my backyard but my fingers are crossed that it gets the adjustments it needs and deserves.
4
1
Baseballplayer
Experience:
1 played
1 reviews
Bring boots and bug spray 2+ years drive by
Reviewed:
Played on:Jul 25, 2015
Played the course:5+ times
Pros:
1) FREE
2) Has own entrance and a huge parking lot dedicated solely to the course. (Low-lying cars be cautious, they are very bumpy)
3) The kiosk near hole 1 is well crafted and contains a layout of the course as well as upcoming tournaments and events.
4) There is a locked wooden box next to the kiosk that serves as the lost and found for discs.
5) Porta-potty near hole 1 (Be aware that this is the only porta-potty on the whole course)
6) Decent course flow
7) Two sets of tees and baskets on most holes
8) Tests your skills- it's a pro-level course from the concrete tees and it's beginner friendly from the front tees.
9) Decent signage
10) Good mix of left and right-turning holes. Good mix of distance ranging from very short to very long.
11) Quiet location besides the train.
12) Baskets are typically easy to locate and seem to catch well
13) Direct view of baskets on most holes.
14) Nice practice area
15) Nice concrete pro tees
16) Nice baskets
17) Some quality ace runs
18) Friendly locals
19) Fun for new players and for pros
2) Has own entrance and a huge parking lot dedicated solely to the course. (Low-lying cars be cautious, they are very bumpy)
3) The kiosk near hole 1 is well crafted and contains a layout of the course as well as upcoming tournaments and events.
4) There is a locked wooden box next to the kiosk that serves as the lost and found for discs.
5) Porta-potty near hole 1 (Be aware that this is the only porta-potty on the whole course)
6) Decent course flow
7) Two sets of tees and baskets on most holes
8) Tests your skills- it's a pro-level course from the concrete tees and it's beginner friendly from the front tees.
9) Decent signage
10) Good mix of left and right-turning holes. Good mix of distance ranging from very short to very long.
11) Quiet location besides the train.
12) Baskets are typically easy to locate and seem to catch well
13) Direct view of baskets on most holes.
14) Nice practice area
15) Nice concrete pro tees
16) Nice baskets
17) Some quality ace runs
18) Friendly locals
19) Fun for new players and for pros
Cons:
1) Not yet finished
2) Very dusty- the course is entirely in the woods and is very dusty when dry. Discs will get very dirty. This will slowly become less of an issue after players pack down the course.
3) Can get very muddy. - lots of low-lying stagnant swamps and wetlands that will eat discs if not followed carefully.
4) No benches- currently there are no benches at either the pro tees and the forward tees. Although, there is plenty of room for benches to be placed.
5) Lack of bridges- some holes have nice bridges but the course needs more, especially over all of the mud and ditches.
6) The waking path from 17 to 18 is very muddy and is currently barely covered with small wooden pallets. The walk to 18 is then very long and uphill/steep. Hole 18 also plays sharply uphill.
7) The forward tees and made of a very slippery rubber. They are also short and they make run-ups awkward. Brooms would be very helpful on the front tees.
8) There is no signage on the forward tees- The pro tees have great signage but the forward tees don't. I assume many more people will play from the forward tees there, so the tee signs won't be easily referenced to everyone. This will force people to find the signs and have to walk backwards to read them.
9) All woods- no open holes or fields
10) Discs get very dirty- every basket is surrounded by sand, so expect up shots and putts to get very dirty unless they find the basket. This can be easily accommodated with wood chips surrounding each basket.
11) No wood chips- it seems as if many trees were cut and just thrown off into the woods. These trees could have been cut into woodchips and spread throughout the course. They would especially be helpful on the dirt mounds on holes 14 and 18. These mounds are cool and challenging but are very dirty and steep.
12) No garbage cans- there is a bunch of trash cans on holes 1 and 9, but the course needs more cans on more holes. I've seen a lot of trash left around at nearly every tee box.
13) Confusing navigation between some holes.
14) Tight, narrow lanes- most holes are very tight and technical. Some holes seem as if there is no true lane and is basically a throw and get lucky type of hole. (Ex. Holes 11, 13, 15) Definitely a challenging course, with LOTS of trees and many just waiting to grab your drive and throw it far from the fairway.
15) Several very steep walking paths
16) Stumps, branches, trees, and sticks everywhere- watch your footing.
17) Hole 9 is too far away from the entrance to accommodate quick 9 hole rounds. If you want to end up back where you started, you must play all 18 holes.
18) The mosquitoes are trecherous. Make sure you bring your bug spray, this course is loaded.
2) Very dusty- the course is entirely in the woods and is very dusty when dry. Discs will get very dirty. This will slowly become less of an issue after players pack down the course.
3) Can get very muddy. - lots of low-lying stagnant swamps and wetlands that will eat discs if not followed carefully.
4) No benches- currently there are no benches at either the pro tees and the forward tees. Although, there is plenty of room for benches to be placed.
5) Lack of bridges- some holes have nice bridges but the course needs more, especially over all of the mud and ditches.
6) The waking path from 17 to 18 is very muddy and is currently barely covered with small wooden pallets. The walk to 18 is then very long and uphill/steep. Hole 18 also plays sharply uphill.
7) The forward tees and made of a very slippery rubber. They are also short and they make run-ups awkward. Brooms would be very helpful on the front tees.
8) There is no signage on the forward tees- The pro tees have great signage but the forward tees don't. I assume many more people will play from the forward tees there, so the tee signs won't be easily referenced to everyone. This will force people to find the signs and have to walk backwards to read them.
9) All woods- no open holes or fields
10) Discs get very dirty- every basket is surrounded by sand, so expect up shots and putts to get very dirty unless they find the basket. This can be easily accommodated with wood chips surrounding each basket.
11) No wood chips- it seems as if many trees were cut and just thrown off into the woods. These trees could have been cut into woodchips and spread throughout the course. They would especially be helpful on the dirt mounds on holes 14 and 18. These mounds are cool and challenging but are very dirty and steep.
12) No garbage cans- there is a bunch of trash cans on holes 1 and 9, but the course needs more cans on more holes. I've seen a lot of trash left around at nearly every tee box.
13) Confusing navigation between some holes.
14) Tight, narrow lanes- most holes are very tight and technical. Some holes seem as if there is no true lane and is basically a throw and get lucky type of hole. (Ex. Holes 11, 13, 15) Definitely a challenging course, with LOTS of trees and many just waiting to grab your drive and throw it far from the fairway.
15) Several very steep walking paths
16) Stumps, branches, trees, and sticks everywhere- watch your footing.
17) Hole 9 is too far away from the entrance to accommodate quick 9 hole rounds. If you want to end up back where you started, you must play all 18 holes.
18) The mosquitoes are trecherous. Make sure you bring your bug spray, this course is loaded.
Other Thoughts:
This course has a ton of potential. Once more cutting is done and benches are installed this will be a very fun course. The course challenges every aspect of your game and requires a huge mix of shots/plays.
Most of the above cons should hopefully be addressed with course improvements and volunteer efforts. A lot of hard work was clearly put into building the course and hopefully it won't get neglected.
The Hollows is a challenging wooded course that seems to be very popular already. The course has a lot of potential and might someday be an amazing course. In the meantime it is still a work in progress but it should definitely be checked out.
P.S. The bugs are very bad (watch out for ticks)
Most of the above cons should hopefully be addressed with course improvements and volunteer efforts. A lot of hard work was clearly put into building the course and hopefully it won't get neglected.
The Hollows is a challenging wooded course that seems to be very popular already. The course has a lot of potential and might someday be an amazing course. In the meantime it is still a work in progress but it should definitely be checked out.
P.S. The bugs are very bad (watch out for ticks)
