Powhatan, VA

The Monster @ Fighting Creek

Permanent course
2.735(based on 22 reviews)
Filter course reviews

Filter reviews

Filter reviews

The Monster @ Fighting Creek reviews

Filter
9 0
lee76007
Gold level trusted reviewer
Experience: 4.7 years 112 played 111 reviews
3.50 star(s)

A Monster of Variety 2+ years

Reviewed: Played on:Dec 20, 2021 Played the course:once

Pros:

-An 18-hole course with a variety of heavy woods, open fairways, pipeline fairways, a water carry, hidden gapped fairways, transitional fairways woods to open and open to woods, elevation, gap tee play, and a creek comes into play.

-There are 2 tee pads, and 1 basket placement. A variety of par 5's, 4's, and 3's, requiring technical shots.

-This is the first review in almost six years. The course has been realigned and reshaped significantly since then and would seem to be much improved. It looks like there was a previous realignment 10-12 years ago. IMO the overall DGCR rating no longer represents the course.

-There are elevated tees high above fairway, tees to a straight up hill fairway, and a variety of in-betweens.

-Majority of the holes have outstanding basket placements whether guardian trees, roller greens, fast level greens, placed hidden in tree lines, protected by water whether a pond or creek, and elevated greens. #17 green ranks in my top 50.

-The closing holes 13 thru 18 ranks in my top 10 with variety, and difficulty from the long tees which I played.

-Most of the holes in the foliage months would be scenic, specifically in the woods, and the creek holes.

-Navigation is clockwise, there is some help with white and blue flags marking a dogleg to a basket which I didn't notice until hole 9. Between 9 basket to 10 tee flags marking the trail for the long transition. UDisc would be needed on the course.

-From the bag on the tee a wide range of fairways and drivers. On approaches a variety of discs putter, mid's, fairways, and drivers. I wore out my underworld on turnovers, and at the time I had a Champion Leopard for fades on approaches for hard-to-reach baskets.

-Beginners and Recreation from the short tees you'll find extreme difficulty. Intermediate and Advanced will find the course very challenging and a joy!

Cons:

-The tee pads are bad!! There is carpet that is just a thin rag and wore out. Underneath uneven dirt or a hard clog. When I played it had rained the day before with an overnight below freezing, teeing off still below freezing and some tees were a solid block of ice. Some open tees are on a slope making it even worse to stay on. I found myself moving significantly away where I altered the intended line. I would think the dirt after a heavy rain would turn into a mud quarry on the tees.

-All tee signs are missing except for one which was heavily damaged and unreadable. Perhaps they were removed after the most recent realignment? Just a few bare posts remained. You'll need UDisc for all course information.

-The tee pads and tee signs as a combination brings down the overall disc course experience especially with no navigation help.

-There are several pipeline holes (gas lines) are going to look repetitive from the tee, but those basket placements are going to make up for it.

-The white and blue flags I mentioned to mark the turn of a dogleg pointing to a basket placement are very small and barely off the ground not seen until hole 9. Its possible I missed them on previous holes just not seen. Only noticed them on a few other holes afterwards.

-Its at least a 500-foot walk from basket 9 to long tee 10. Starting from the woods where a trail with a ribbon of those blue and white flags will guide you to an opening then they stop to an open trail. Do I go uphill or downhill? It was a comical moment, pull out UDisc hang a right downhill.

-Loss of Disc is going to be high whether involving water, heavy woods, and blind shots.

Other Thoughts:

The Monster@ Fighting Creek, yes, it is, I found the long tees to be a fun monster! From the first elevated tee to the 18th sloping downward fairway a variety of very difficult holes, and a grinding challenge which I look for in a course. Even the repetitive pipeline holes without tee sign help, I made it a game to guess which side of the fairway into the woods the basket was tucked into scanning the fairway. IMO the course layout by itself is a solid 5.0, but it gets dragged down by the course experience. My biggest personnel con are those tee pads with any type of moisture you may find some of them unplayable. If I play the course again, and I hope too, it will be after at least a week of a dry period and some tees are likely to still be uneven, the carpet is only good for marking the tee location. The tee signs I'm good without as long as UDisc is accurate.

My overall course rating is an exceptional layout especially from the longs tees and the variety that is offered hole to hole, and well-placed baskets is anchored on a 5.0. The time to play was 95 minutes.

"As played from the long tees"

The Pipeline Holes:

These were open tee to open fairways with heavy woods on each side and some holes with a hidden creek, baskets were hidden in the woods and not viewed from the tees.

-No. 6 Par 3 at 429 feet the basket is hooked into heavy woods on the left. the gap is only about 30 feet wide a 90-degree angle with guardian trees. The green drops into the creek about 15 feet past basket and not seen from tee or a fairway approach.

-No. 9 Par 5 at 663 feet the basket is also hooked at a 90-degree angle on the right in a moderately wooded setting with a 30-foot gap. A roller green into a creek about 100-feet away.

Notable Holes:

-No. 1 Par 5 at 463 feet is an elevated tee of about 30 feet passing over a ravine with a creek, short tees, and tall thick pine trees to a landing are on the fairway just slightly less elevated than the tee at about 300 feet away, and at that mark a 90-degree dogleg left. There are several pine trees in the middle of the fairway with gaps that seemed less than 10 feet and smaller all the way past the creek which is about 220 feet away but a cleanly passed disc thru the trees will give a memorable flight. The fairway all the way to the basket is bordered by heavy trees and brush with high lost disc potential. The basket sits a little elevated from the dogleg with tree guardians. For an opening hole very intimidating, after a 2 ½ hour car ride and below freezing temps had to talk myself to stay on the long tee, I deflected off one of the fairway trees but over the creek.

-No. 13 Par 4 at 523 feet is a tee out of a wooded gap to an open roller fairway and green. The open portion of the fairway is behind a ballfield and the only hole with a park atmosphere to it. From the wooded setting of the tee your disc will cross a dirt road just 30 feet out and will need to hit a tree line gap at about 170 feet out and 30 feet wide, from that point into the open with a lazy dogleg right and a sloping fairway left to right. The biggest drop in the fairway is just 100 feet past the gap, and a disc can skip or roll at least 100 feet away from basket. The basket sits behind the outfield fence, and a green roller of 100 feet if the grass is kept short. The fairway and basket are not seen from the tee. I hit the gap, but my disc selection had me skipping in the wrong direction away from the basket.

-No. 14 Par 3 at 231 feet an open hole over a pond with heavy brush down the steep banks, the water carry is about 225 feet. The green is short in length from the tee at 12 feet with a steep drop behind the basket into heavy brush could roll 100 feet, from the tee the width of the green is plenty, attacking the basket is risky since the hole has heavy lost disc potential. However, there is a service road to the left of the pond to bailout and no tee sign to tell me if its O.B. I took the bailout basket high and very carefully laid up to the basket.

No. 17 Par 3 at 375 feet is a meandering dogleg right that could look like its straight to the basket. The hole starts level with heavy trees bordering the fairway and a scattering of trees in the fairway offering a narrow gap no bigger than 15 feet to the basket. You'll really have to work the disc to reach the basket. As you approach C2 the fairway starts dipping to the basket. The feature of the hole is the C1 green with the basket sitting on a crown with a triangle shape, a small brook has worked its way around the triangle, and the water is within C1. The water was just a few inches when I played, but the brook can hold a few feet. There're also a few skinnies protecting the basket. Very scenic green, after two tree hits, I decked to layup to the basket and take my bogey.

Signature Hole:

-No. 10 Par 4 at 570 feet is a double lazy dog leg left from tee to basket. The hole stays level until within C2 where the basket is perched on a hill about 15 feet up left side of fairway. From the tee you're shooting out of a gap with plenty of width, but don't want a wayward disc there's heavy brush. The first dogleg is past the shorts at about 200 feet and need to work the disc left to avoid the heavy brush and creek at about 260 feet out. The second dogleg left is another 200 feet and can work the disc left to get up on green or can stay to the right of the basket area for a safe approach. Between the two landing areas the hill to the left bulges into the fairway and the creek from the right giving the shape of an hourglass. Heavy trees and brush both sides. The basket sits on top of the hill middle left fairway on the edge of the hill right and a drop back to the fairway rolling towards the creek about 150 feet away. There're also guardian trees in front and left of basket. Best place to be is left of basket as close as you can because you're putting towards the hill drop. Just a beautiful hole setting, this hole I managed to do it right.

Trouble Hole:

No. 15 Par 3 at 324 feet a 90-degree dogleg left at the short tees 110 feet away with a steep drop-down fairway, a set of wooden steps will help get you down to the lower portion of the fairway. The tee sits on the dam for the pond that you crossed on 14, and very narrow. Water to the right no big deal, you're going left with heavy brush and trees, nothing can be seen it's a blind shot after passing dogleg left, miss the dogleg straight heavy trees and brush happy disc looking. The gap at the dogleg is about 30 feet wide with tall trees at the bottom of the hill and the canopy hangs out over the dogleg. To the basket the gap maintains its pace to a down slope fairway reaching the basket with guardian trees, the creek is within C1. Beautiful setting when peering down from the top of hill at the dogleg, but basket not seen because of canopy, looks like you're getting ready to enter the bat cave. When I checked UDisc for the hole layout I decided to walk down to the gap, I looked down the bat cave and back at the tee and thought WTH I maybe saying good by to a disc. Pulled out a beat up Pink Thunderbird and threw a high arching anhyzer (lefty) and heard tree crash as in canopy, and after a short look on the lower portion manage to put my disc back in the bag.

I hope you enjoyed this Monster Review.







Was this review helpful? Yes No
1 2
RedElectricDragon
Experience: 1 played 1 reviews
3.50 star(s)

Fun course 2+ years drive by

Reviewed: Played on:Jul 24, 2014 Played the course:2-4 times

Pros:

Very long course. A nice variety of shots after the 1st nine.

Cons:

Signage should be numbered with the hole numbers. In some places there are multiple unmarked arrows pointing to different tees. Some of the tee signs are broken.

Other Thoughts:

No one wants to talk about hole 10? The tee is behind a baseball field and is hard to find. You have to avoid two huge hazards and the fairway is very small. Need some serious control teeing off here.
Was this review helpful? Yes No
4 10
blackmamba5490
Experience: 12 years 51 played 9 reviews
3.50 star(s)

What a Pleasant suprise! 2+ years drive by

Reviewed: Updated: Played on:Jan 7, 2013 Played the course:once

Pros:

Long holes
Clear signs detailing where the baskets are for both the long and short tees
A great mixture of long open holes and tightly wooded holes
Carpet tee pads

Cons:

Lots of walking
40 miles from where i reside
A little confusing finding the next holes
score card for this course is wrong ( holes are in different places than what it says)

Other Thoughts:

I have avoided this course because of the bad reviews but i gave it a shot anyway and WOW AM I GLAD I DID! Its got two separate thousand foot par 5's and a lot of hills to climb but i love courses with diversity and this one has got it.I highly recommend this course to anyone who wants to get a workout and play a jewel of a course!
Was this review helpful? Yes No
4 0
DUBONE
Experience: 14.3 years 11 played 1 reviews
3.50 star(s)

Course updates are awesome! 2+ years drive by

Reviewed: Played on:Dec 19, 2012 Played the course:2-4 times

Pros:

The new updated course plays so much better than before, the tee boxes seem a little nicer as well. Directional arrows in the trees help out for easy navigation as well as map boxes on each hole. This was my 4th time playing here and the first 3 were not so good, but the new updates to the course made it worth while. I will be going back =)

Cons:

The only con I can think of is a few of the wooded holes have too many trees on them and I also had to jump across the creek a couple of times because there are no bridges.

Other Thoughts:

This is a very long course but there are benches and picnic tables along the way if you need a break.
Was this review helpful? Yes No
9 0
optidiscic
Diamond level trusted reviewer
Experience: 21.9 years 156 played 149 reviews
3.50 star(s)

Huge Monster Lives up to it's title 2+ years drive by

Reviewed: Updated: Played on:Mar 18, 2010 Played the course:once

Pros:

Most courses you want to know if you might lose a disc or two...this is the first course where I lost my arm. Yes be sure to sharpie your name and number on your throwing arm as you too may lose it on this enormous big arm course. I found a few arms lying in the retention basin on hole 12 and a few off to the side near 652 ft uphill #6 and surprisingly a few just left in the middle of the 1087 ft fairway of hole 7. Seems the Monster likes the taste of weenie arms as much as plastic. So be prepared this is a course for those with stronger arms.....A real game changer...the first 10 holes are unlike any DG experience I have ever had prior. Combining massive length with enormously wide but well defined fairways through dense woods. These holes are all routed atop an enormous pipeline system that must be visible from outerspace via satelite, so the fairways are wide and every branch from the ground to treetop is cut so there is zero overhang here. What you are left with are 10 low cut grassy fairways that are between 70 ft and 130 ft wide and avg 600 feet in length with massive hardwoods towering but not impinging the defined lanes. These 10 holes are massive and often dogleg and change direction. The sheer size of the holes make's one feel as though they are riding a moped on an airstrip...as in feeling miniature and meek as you drive, drive and drive again. The fairways are more than ample but given the great distances I found myself often fading or turning into those thick schule filled woods and had to pitch out and drive again.I would imagine this is a big arm player's dream course though as there is no where else that I have played with such a unique and big arm tempting look. 2 holes had intersections (7 & 9) where you could easily overthrow and go through the hyzer intersection and would have to drive back and anhyzer back to fairway. A unique feature that I have often envisioned and am glad to have seen it finally. (yeah I missed the hyzer both times and had to reverse re-drive both holes with anhyzers) Once your out of the craziness of the monstrous fairways it's off to 2 great more traditional field holes 11 shoots out of some small woods over a wide open field to a sloped green and 12 fires over a road and around some trees over a retention basin to a fast green. After that the course dives into the woods on 13 which is fun and from there its a smattering of tight technical holes where you will escape the bigness of the beast but have to deal with the shorter but equally tough and tighter woods golf until you finish your day. There are multiple tees and plenty of parking and a practice basket available. Course flows intuitively so lack of tee signs not too much of a problem. Map and info is available online and is quite sufficient. Follow the purple markings...they are everywhere. Some unique features of this course besides the superhero size of those 10 early holes are the raised basket and fast green of hole 1...the across the road bomb to start hole 2. The uphill struggle of hole 6. The dive into the woods of hole 13. The guarded basket of hole 15, surrounded by trees and a moat and the tight downhill drive of 16.

Cons:

It's really too much of the same thing for 9 of the first 10 holes...massive drives with little room for error considering the length required. I would have scored better if I had tried to control my drives and keep them straight and low but it's hard to not try to unleash the drive of your life once you see these amazing fairways. As wonderful as the fairways were for the front 10..only once did the repetition cease. #5 was the only woodsy break from the sheer distance madness. NO ace runs anywhere on this course. The long holes are too long and the woods are too technical so I would imagine birdies and aces are quite rare. Sloppy tees and lacking in signs as of spring 2010 (I don't care but many require this) I think some better greens for the big arm holes..maybe a raised basket or a scenic green with some more options upon approach would add something that seemed to be lacking. As for the final 5 holes...they need to be thinned out a bit to really be considered fair or realistic. Just too extreme even by Paw PAw and East Coast Standards. It's new so it's raw and I imagine these complaints will remedy in time.

Other Thoughts:

I think one day this will be a great tournament course. I would love to see big arm pros throw down those monstrous fairways. If you find my arm in the woods somewhere near the fairway for 15 please contact me on DGCR. I really don't think anyone would want to use it for themselves especially after the abuse it received here.
Was this review helpful? Yes No
8 0
dobsonr
Bronze level trusted reviewer
Experience: 15.9 years 40 played 33 reviews
3.50 star(s)

Monster Mash 2+ years drive by

Reviewed: Played on:Jan 5, 2010 Played the course:once

Pros:

The Monster, as mentioned in earlier reviews, is still very much a work in progress. I decided I had to check it out after hearing that this was the longest course in the state, and it definitely lives up to the hype - this course is loooong! I played from the short tees and it was STILL a long course. The Monster isn't just about length, though; the layout is very creative and makes great use of the land. The first 12 holes are dominated by long, rather open shots down tree-lined fairways. Nothing boring, though - lots of different doglegs, uphill drives, downhill drives, and plenty of chances for big throws.

My favorite holes here are in the middle of the course. Hole 11 is in an open field with the basket on the side of a hill. Hole 12, my personal favorite, throws from an elevated tee by the baseball field, over a road, to a basket placed dangerously close to a nasty reservoir which will be sure to claim many discs as this course grows (the long tee on 12 is great - similar shot from an elevated tee, but you have to throw through the "field goal" of trees).

Hole 13 tees off from the crest of a hill, throwing downhill and into the woods. Holes 13-18 are all wooded and require more technical shots, providing a nice relief from the big open holes. That relief doesn't last too long, though, because these holes are not easy. The wooded section of the course features mostly tight fairways with lots of small trees just waiting to get nailed with a disc.

Bonus points also awarded for having a practice basket.

Cons:

Because this course is still in the works there are several obvious cons to point out, but I'll try not to dwell on them. First of all, tee signs are a must - currently, the tees are all marked with small pavers, which can be quite difficult to find on such large fairways. I have heard that there will be signs placed at the long tees in the near future, but I would recommend (if/when the budget allows) putting signs at the short tees as well (so that they can actually be seen). For now, the best way to find the next tee is to check the top of the basket and see where the painted rung points (same system used at Bryan Park).

Eventually the course could also use a few small bridges over streams, as well as some benches sporadically placed throughout the course (I believe the only bench I saw all day was at hole 17). I noticed that the website for the course lists the lengths from the long tees - it would be nice to know the distance of the shorts as well. Par info would be good too.

Other Thoughts:

There is still work to be done before the Monster lives up to its potential. That being said, most of the cons listed above are likely to be addressed in the near future. All things considered, this is a well-designed course that will challenge even advanced players. You won't be able to play a quick round here, but don't be scared. The Monster doesn't bite.
Was this review helpful? Yes No

Latest posts

Top