[Innova] DESTROYER destroyers unite!!

[Twmccoy]

Any idea why Gstar Destroyers keep the -1 turn rating on the stamp while other Gstar drivers don't? New Gstar Bosses are labeled -1 instead of 0 turn and Gstar Corvettes are -2 turn instead of -1.

Maybe they forgot to update it. All the G* Destroyers I've seen were -2 turn at least. I won't call them super flippy, but they definitely turn more than regular star Destroyers.

G* plastic in general is flippier than others.

 

[Kenny53691]

I started playing disc golf back in 2010, and the Wraith was my primary driver for many years. Then about 5 years ago I switched to gyro disc only (MVP & Axiom) because I kept comparing my disc with what other were throwing. This year I went back to Innova/Discraft, and I digging the Destroyer for sure. I only have a few destroyers, but I plan on stocking up after I read some back log on this thread to see what I've been missing out on.

 

[Kenny53691]

I currently have a Star Destroyer and a couple days ago I bought a Philo Destroyer to hold me over until I get my Star Destroyer broke in.

 

[DonOfFinland]

Has anyone tried the latest run of Ricky 2x Destroyers? Some of them seem to have a newer blend of Star plastic that is on the softer side of Star that I've had or felt during the last 5 years. Previous runs between 167-172 weight range have had a blizzardy rim, but the newer run of Star has next to no bubbles in the rim even in the slightly lighter weights. They are overstable for sure, but feel great in the hand!

 

[Twmccoy]

Has anyone tried the latest run of Ricky 2x Destroyers? Some of them seem to have a newer blend of Star plastic that is on the softer side of Star that I've had or felt during the last 5 years. Previous runs between 167-172 weight range have had a blizzardy rim, but the newer run of Star has next to no bubbles in the rim even in the slightly lighter weights. They are overstable for sure, but feel great in the hand!

I've thrown a 173-5 Wysocki 2X. Plastic was pretty good. Very slight blizzardy look in the rim, but overall it's nice.

Good dome, and it flies pretty overstable.

As far as star Destroyers go, it's right in the middle of the stability spectrum. IMO it glided better than most McBeths.

 

[Moose33]

I just got a bottom stamped one that is a bit beat in and this sucker will bomb.

 

[Kenny53691]

With just about every run of destroyers, are the flat ones more stable where the domey ones have more glide and are less stable?

 

[andhjo0131]

With just about every run of destroyers, are the flat ones more stable where the domey ones have more glide and are less stable?

I don't think it's a simple as that, I've had both McBeth and Avery Destroyers with pop top and way overstable flight. You need to look at PLH and lower wing shape as well.

 

[swhite]

With just about every run of destroyers, are the flat ones more stable where the domey ones have more glide and are less stable?

The parting line height is most important for overstability.

I would say that, in general, domey McBeth Destroyers have higher parting line heights, so they are more overstable. But, the domey Wysocki Destroyers seem to have somewhat lower parting line heights, and so are not as overstable.

As you said, more dome gives the Destroyer more glide.

 

[Kenny53691]

Thank you guys, I've been playing to 11 years now and this is my first year diving into the destroyer game, so I feel like I have a lot to catch up on..

 

[SaROCaM]

You need to look at PLH and lower wing shape as well.

Yup, these have been consistent markers in my experience. Lower PLH and flat lower wing shape = understable. Higher PLH and concave lower wing shape = overstable.

 

[seedlings]

Infinite stocked some Halo Destroyers.

 

[hawgdriver]

Is this the right thread to ask a Destroyer question?

 

[Jcough]

Yessir. Ask away. I'm ready to over-generalize.

 

[hawgdriver]

Ok. So. About the Destroyer.

Shoot. What was I going to ask. Oh come on, not now. I just made this overly dramatic 'can I haz a question'. Heckin A.

It will come to me. It felt like a good question. Arg. I'm going to stream of conscious a sec to see if it comes to me.

I bag three Destroyers. One of them is 155g or so Star RW edition, I use it for hyzer bombs and it does work. AM40 dudes in a recent tourney were like 'damn, yeah, that's a line I didn't think about'. Like Eagle McMahon but on the wrong side of 40 and not impressive at all.

Another Destroyer I love and bag is a slightly beat flat-top max weight Echo Star that goes yard but is kind of flippy, if I use it on a FH it will not cooperate. It's my max-distance meets max-reliability BH disc. Then I have a slightly beat 6-mo old max weight Halo (doesn't beat in that much tbh, love this plastic) that is stable AF. I throw it both BH in conditions and often FH.

They are all kind of wildly different in a certain way, even though they are the same. If that makes sense.

I can't figure out why the max-weight Halo isn't my max-distance BH driver. Maybe I need to throw it on anhyzer? Maybe it's Colorado? Maybe I need to radar my arm (I'm hitting 375-400' consistently now).

I guess I have high confidence in this mold, but I feel like there's a primer or something I'm missing. Just making it up as I go with some strong results but still a lot of ?'s.

 

[Horsman]

Ok. So. About the Destroyer.

Shoot. What was I going to ask. Oh come on, not now. I just made this overly dramatic 'can I haz a question'. Heckin A.

It will come to me. It felt like a good question. Arg. I'm going to stream of conscious a sec to see if it comes to me.

I bag three Destroyers. One of them is 155g or so Star RW edition, I use it for hyzer bombs and it does work. AM40 dudes in a recent tourney were like 'damn, yeah, that's a line I didn't think about'. Like Eagle McMahon but on the wrong side of 40 and not impressive at all.

Another Destroyer I love and bag is a slightly beat flat-top max weight Echo Star that goes yard but is kind of flippy, if I use it on a FH it will not cooperate. It's my max-distance meets max-reliability BH disc. Then I have a slightly beat 6-mo old max weight Halo (doesn't beat in that much tbh, love this plastic) that is stable AF. I throw it both BH in conditions and often FH.

They are all kind of wildly different in a certain way, even though they are the same. If that makes sense.

I can't figure out why the max-weight Halo isn't my max-distance BH driver. Maybe I need to throw it on anhyzer? Maybe it's Colorado? Maybe I need to radar my arm (I'm hitting 375-400' consistently now).

I guess I have high confidence in this mold, but I feel like there's a primer or something I'm missing. Just making it up as I go with some strong results but still a lot of ?'s.

How come you feel like your halo should be your max distance driver.

 

[Twmccoy]

Heavier, beefier discs will never be your max distance drivers, especially if you throw 400' or less. I've thrown at least 30 different star Destroyers of all eras. Each one is definitely different. They can range anywhere from moderately flippy to supremely overstable.

To get max distance you need a driver that will turn at high speed. A max weight Halo Destroyer most likely isn't going to be that disc. Honestly, if you want to throw a Destroyer for max speed, try a G* in 170g or less. They're flippier and glider than normal stars, and noticeably longer.

Each different Destroyer must be respected for what it does and doesn't do. Trying to force a max weight star Destroyer to be your max distance disc will only lead to frustration.

 

[hawgdriver]

How come you feel like your halo should be your max distance driver.

Maybe for the same reason I feel like I should be throwing 500'?

On a max FH shot it flies great--very straight for a long time and then dumps. On a BH it has a more meat-hook path and goes 25-50' shorter. Sometimes I'll try to throw it on a slight flex and get most of max distance, but it's still less. But the reliability is there, so I think I should keep at it.

 

[the1discChallenge]

Alright alright, y'all finally got me....I picked up some used Destroyers today and I'm going to give them a shot for a while.

Since I live in MI, I try to throw mostly Michigan brands. My bag is 90% MVP/Axiom/Streamline and a little bit Discraft/DGA. I love the MVP line up, but the one thing they're missing is a 12 speed driver. The 11 speed isn't quite far enough and 13 is a bit big in my hands....I've been trying to find the "Destroyer" disc for a while and just couldn't....every Hurricane I threw was way to OS (apparently I just got 5 freak ones....), Forces are too beefy for what I'm looking for, and I don't much care to pay $20 per Zues.

I hadn't thrown Destroyers in years, and since my distance has improved immensely since then, I thought to give them another shot. I picked up a 175g domey star and a 171g G* and they're perfect compliments. They ones I got fly right in line with the flight no., the star being more turn resistant and the g* bombing. I feel confident that I can find them almost anywhere in stores and in used bins, so I'll give them a real try this time. After one round though, I'm hooked for now. :thmbup:

 

[Twmccoy]

Alright alright, y'all finally got me....I picked up some used Destroyers today and I'm going to give them a shot for a while.

Since I live in MI, I try to throw mostly Michigan brands. My bag is 90% MVP/Axiom/Streamline and a little bit Discraft/DGA. I love the MVP line up, but the one thing they're missing is a 12 speed driver. The 11 speed isn't quite far enough and 13 is a bit big in my hands....I've been trying to find the "Destroyer" disc for a while and just couldn't....every Hurricane I threw was way to OS (apparently I just got 5 freak ones....), Forces are too beefy for what I'm looking for, and I don't much care to pay $20 per Zues.

I hadn't thrown Destroyers in years, and since my distance has improved immensely since then, I thought to give them another shot. I picked up a 175g domey star and a 171g G* and they're perfect compliments. They ones I got fly right in line with the flight no., the star being more turn resistant and the g* bombing. I feel confident that I can find them almost anywhere in stores and in used bins, so I'll give them a real try this time. After one round though, I'm hooked for now. :thmbup:

I agree with you about the Hurricane and Force. Both of those were more overstable and had less glide and distance for me than star Destroyers. I'm not really sold on the Zeus either. I've tried 4 of them, and they just don't glide that well. I EASILY throw star Destroyers further than ESP Zeuses.

The closest MVP disc to a Destroyer I've tried is the Octane. It's maybe 1 speed faster, but has a very similar flight. A little turn followed by a strong fade.