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Toughest course you have played

For me the toughest so far have been Blue Valley long here in KC and Mont Du Lac outside Duluth and for me toughest means most physically demanding. There are tougher courses as far as what shots you need or how technical a course is, but that's skill set dependant type tough not physically demanding tough.

Blue Valley kicks my rectum on the regular b/c I'm out there at least once a month. Length and elevation conspire to break the will of mortals out there. I usually play the front 10, which takes you back to the parking lot and is tougher than most other 18's around. Occasionally I'll play through 16, and leave the 2 1000 footers across the road alone. But it's only when I'm really hating myself or just have too much time to kill that I attempt all 18. Even my dog gives up after 10. She'll follow me reluctantly through 16, but after that she'll usually just wait at the car.

Mont du Lac had been hit by big floods when we went up there last year. Huge muddy gorges were carved out where you can tell there used to be a ski run, which is what it is in the winter. Navigation was darn near impossible, b/c of the damage by floods, holes having been moved b/c of said floods but not marked in any way or on any map, and the extreme elevation. Multiple top of the world type shots were fun, but all we could do that day was get up and down that course, get a beer and go to bed.
 
Zobel is a manicured golf course.....a very nice course! When you meet a tough course you're in for a rude awakening.

Try to make it out to Justin Trails. Most beautiful course I have played with lots of climbing/hiking. The golf is above average and several holes are brutal if you do not stay on the fairway.

I agree that it is manicured well, I just meant with my total of only 15 courses it is by far the most fun and most challenging course I have played. Youre right that challenging is a better word than tough. I have met a tough course only because of the condition. Ruger Park in North Dakota, probably should be one of the easiest and most boring courses ive played but the wind was 30+ mph and it was snowing out.... That was tough, made for a ridiculous round but it was still fun.
 
I know we're mentioning lots of great high-par courses here (and rightly so), but do you guys sometimes find the deuce-or-die courses (at least in tournament play) to be infinitely more frustrating?

Easy when the discs are flying just right, mentally tough when you're hitting early trees or missing putts that you know you should be hitting.
 
Pinehurst No.2

I am a little off topic but Pinehurst No. 2 is a great course and the whole Pinehurst experience is fantastic. The Ocean Course at Kiawah is much harder with the wind and sand everywhere and the least enjoyable rounds of golf I have ever played were there. The one redeemer is having a caddy that knows every inch of the property which is one of the best golf experiences ever. What Rory McIlroy did at Kiawah last year at the PGA was remarkable but the scores of others reflect how difficult it is.
 
I know we're mentioning lots of great high-par courses here (and rightly so), but do you guys sometimes find the deuce-or-die courses (at least in tournament play) to be infinitely more frustrating?

Easy when the discs are flying just right, mentally tough when you're hitting early trees or missing putts that you know you should be hitting.

Scorewise, there's a little 12-holer near me that drives me crazy. Luckily there's rarely anyone else there to witness.

But as far as toughness, physical and mental, W.R. Jackson is probably it for me.
 
East Metro Park looks brutal too. (Manor, TX) When the best in the world played it during the Texas States in March a 73 was rated 1003. Some mean looking rough.
 
I am a little off topic but Pinehurst No. 2 is a great course and the whole Pinehurst experience is fantastic. The Ocean Course at Kiawah is much harder with the wind and sand everywhere and the least enjoyable rounds of golf I have ever played were there.

Haven't played Kiawah, I don't do much golfing anymore I have a bum left shoulder.

When's the last time you were at No.2? I was just back out there recently and the sand is back. The rough on some holes is nothing but sand. I don't even want to say what my score was.
 
I've missed a few pages here, but has anyone mentioned The Black Course @ Grand Vue Park (Moundsville, WV)?
I have not played very many courses but of the ones I have the Johnny Sias designed Black Course kicked my arse harder than any other. Mostly physically, but also mentally...... it is not an easy course by any standards and I've never even tried the long tees there. Several holes ranging from 500 to over 800' and finishing with an awesome 1008' downhill par 5. While I've never been out west to play any 'real' mountain courses..... the landscape on this one will beat you down pretty good...especially in the summer heat and humidity.
Just to put it in perspective..... I recently played Idlewild from the longs to the long pins (being doubles made it a little less gruelling) and I can honestly say I enjoyed every minute of it and never felt terribly beat down. It really was a pleasant, albeit very long, 'walk in the park'
 
Kinkaid park Anchorage Alaska during the winter. Physically tough on the body but was very fun.

I'm playing there next month so at least its in the summer.

East Metro Park looks brutal too. (Manor, TX) When the best in the world played it during the Texas States in March a 73 was rated 1003. Some mean looking rough.

It took 17 pages for someone to mention this course. At least they played it when it had been cleaned up. This is probably at the top of my list right now. It wasn't in the best condition when I was there too so that may have had something to do with my rating of it.

Others for me would be the Toboggan for the shear epic unforgivingness if you make a mistake and Winthrop Gold with the ropes for the mental aspect that goes with literally every single throw you make has the potential to go out of bounds.

I don't consider Idlewild all the way up there, maybe its because I've played there more than the others and have figured some things out about how to attack it.
 
Those are all courses that are technical and long. For difficulty adjusted for length, Summit in Chicago takes the cake.
I played summit today with a chicken, a buzzz and a putter. I think I had a single deuce. It didnnt help that 13 of the holes were a swamp. Crazy hard course for the length.
 
I played summit today with a chicken, a buzzz and a putter. I think I had a single deuce. It didnnt help that 13 of the holes were a swamp. Crazy hard course for the length.

Ha, I didn't even mention the thick swampy mud that adds another level of difficulty for a while after any precipitation. :p
 
^ I see where you're coming from with Summit. It might be one of the toughest courses under 4400 ft, but the title "Toughest course you have played," conjures images of epic, really takes something out of you disc golf courses: Renny Gold, Toboggan, Leviathan longs... courses that punch you in the face and steal your lunch.

I don't think of "keep your putter off the trees" courses, no matter how hard it is to shoot par on them.
 
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