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Those were converted into hand percussion, MIDI controllers, and FX pedals last year
just the boring stuff remains, and I'll spam the FB groups with those.
I'll say I've never thrown the same River twice, but Leos have never mistreated me :thmbup:
No I think it's laziness. The education system..(don't get me started). Anyway learning the basics of the Roc really aren't that hard, the different molds (San Marino, Rancho, Ontario, Roc+, Roc3, Classic Roc..if you count the Classic Roc) & learning the plastics is very simple also.
Why does everyone hate the groove so much? I know it's wayyyyy overstable but they're nice if your throwing that type of shot.
its called a Roc. it should fly like a Roc. If i wanted a Buzzz, I would buy a Buzzz.
Which Roc should it fly like; San Marino, Rancho, or Ontario?
ZMan44
Vulcan is -4/2 in star and -3/2 in champ
Innova has the best fairway drivers and the best baskets...by far.
try to explain the difference between a Sanmarino, Rancho, and ontario roc to a new player.
Why would they even try to learn it when they could just go with a Core. It's what all their hipster buddies are using and then they don;t have to pretend to listen to your lecture on rocs.
Innova has the best fairway drivers and the best baskets...by far.
people hate on innova because they've bought in to all these new trendy companies on promises of consistency and continued quality. then when they get there and they've invested so much time and money in to these trendy new discs they realize they're in the exact same boat they were in before when they had innova discs.
... so they hate, because they've got to blame somebody for their own problems.
Idk about baskets.....DGA baskets are really good.
people hate on innova because they've bought in to all these new trendy companies on promises of consistency and continued quality. then when they get there and they've invested so much time and money in to these trendy new discs they realize they're in the exact same boat they were in before when they had innova discs.
... so they hate, because they've got to blame somebody for their own problems.