[Innova] Rhyno Nation!

[ponder]

Not trying to taint the thread but has anyone tried the hyzerbomb tank and compared it to the rhyno? They've just released a flat soft glow tank as a fundraiser disc for Nick Hyde Memorial. I was thinking of trying one out.

Also, I'm a rhyno newb.( I only have a DX rhyno) Could someone give me a breakdown of the different plastics? I'm looking for a good forehand upshot/driving putter. Tried the aviarx3 but it was just too deep for me to get a clean release. I like the zone/mortar but I'm looking for more of a true forehand putter. The DX rhyno just has too much dome and isn't quite as stable as I like.

 

[Marmoset]

Not trying to taint the thread but has anyone tried the hyzerbomb tank and compared it to the rhyno? They've just released a flat soft glow tank as a fundraiser disc for Nick Hyde Memorial. I was thinking of trying one out.

Also, I'm a rhyno newb.( I only have a DX rhyno) Could someone give me a breakdown of the different plastics? I'm looking for a good forehand upshot/driving putter. Tried the aviarx3 but it was just too deep for me to get a clean release. I like the zone/mortar but I'm looking for more of a true forehand putter. The DX rhyno just has too much dome and isn't quite as stable as I like.

Love tanks. Aviar PandA bottom, Rhyno top. Still overstable when new, breaks in pretty well. A little more glide... but not much. I like the stiff ones just as much as the R-Pro and color R-Pro. Stiff ones for driving and approaching, softer ones for approaching and most putting.

Pairs really well with the Rhyno. Highly recommended. A little birdie told me that the Nick Hyde ones aren't going to be the only place to get these wink wink Maybe some KC-ish Tanks? winking more hahahaha

If you can use premium plastics, then Champ or Star Rhynos should get you more stability. Otherwise, you are stuck looking for flat or Ontario DX Rhynos.

 

[Marmoset]

I meant to write, "I like the stiff ones just as much as the R-Pro and GLOW R-Pro." My black R-Pros are my fav. IMO the blend of R-Pro they used for these is a little too soft. It would be great if they had a stiffness in between the R-Pro and the KC Pro... but, alas...

If you like Tanks and Rhynos but want more stability, have you tried Pigs or Hawgs? I don't have experience with either mold but they are supposed to be beefier.

 

[ponder]

Anyone try the color glow champ rhyno from disc golf values?

 

[Casey 1988]

I meant to write, "I like the stiff ones just as much as the R-Pro and GLOW R-Pro." My black R-Pros are my fav. IMO the blend of R-Pro they used for these is a little too soft. It would be great if they had a stiffness in between the R-Pro and the KC Pro... but, alas....

Well have you tried the Pro Rhyno at the Innova Factory Store in the Limited section, I know it is Driver Pro plastic with the glossy on it but it is the stiffness between R-Pro and KC pro. DX is also between R-Pro And KC in Stiffness just not as durable a plastic as the Pro level plastic.

 

[ponder]

Got a r-pro rhyno. Threw it a ton today. How are rhyno's supposed to fly? Looking at the numbers and flight charts lead me to believe it should be pretty overstable. However it's very unforgiving for forehand. It doesn't tolerate oat as much as I expected and unless thrown with a decent height and hyzer it usually flies straight. Thrown backhand it seems about the same stability as my KC aviars, just less glide.

 

[Marmoset]

Well have you tried the Pro Rhyno at the Innova Factory Store in the Limited section, I know it is Driver Pro plastic with the glossy on it but it is the stiffness between R-Pro and KC pro. DX is also between R-Pro And KC in Stiffness just not as durable a plastic as the Pro level plastic.

that quote was in reference to the Tanks.

As far as Rhynos are concerned, you are right: DX is my all-around favorite.

 

[Keller]

Beat DX Rhynos are a thing of beauty!

 

[Marmoset]

Beat DX Rhynos are a thing of beauty!

Still gotta keep a Champ for the indestructible plastic/overstability and an R-Pro for the tricky landings... but DX gets the most love from me! Simple, cheap, ubiquitous DX. Gotta love it. Still, if they made an XT Rhyno (Ontario if I had my druthers)... I'd be all over that.

I never understand why DX has such a bad reputation from people who are not pros. DX putters and mids last a long time, even in the thickly wooded Appalachian courses. Fairway drivers don't last as long but I still like DX fairways. I don't do DX distance drivers in the woods. I do have my limits LOL.

If you are a pro, then having a disc that doesn't quickly change its flight characteristics can meant the difference between 2-3 place in the final standings. This can be thousands of dollars of income at the highest levels. I get that. Most of us are not in that position. I don't do tourneys, DX is fine for me. To each his own I guess. [/rant]

 

[Keller]

Yeah, I don't get all the DX hate. I bag a 3 year old DX Rhyno, Teebird a Roc, and a 4 year old Eagle-X and they are all sweet flying discs. No, they are not anywhere near as stable as new, but they gain glide and are very predictable. And for me, a beat DX Eagle or Teebird is far more predictable than a Leopard.

Some people just like shinny new plastic and will talk them selves into not even trying it.

As far as Rhynos go, I've tried them all except for star and I just prefer R-Pro and DX. But some KC-Pro rhynos would surely be sweet! Are you listening Innova? Nah, probably not.:wall:

 

[Casey 1988]

Still gotta keep a Champ for the indestructible plastic/overstability and an R-Pro for the tricky landings... but DX gets the most love from me! Simple, cheap, ubiquitous DX. Gotta love it. Still, if they made an XT Rhyno (Ontario if I had my druthers)... I'd be all over that.

I never understand why DX has such a bad reputation from people who are not pros. DX putters and mids last a long time, even in the thickly wooded Appalachian courses. Fairway drivers don't last as long but I still like DX fairways. I don't do DX distance drivers in the woods. I do have my limits LOL.

If you are a pro, then having a disc that doesn't quickly change its flight characteristics can meant the difference between 2-3 place in the final standings. This can be thousands of dollars of income at the highest levels. I get that. Most of us are not in that position. I don't do tourneys, DX is fine for me. To each his own I guess. [/rant]

DX for Mids and Putters is not bad, My brother uses DX Stud he is wearing in to fly straight for the closer putter of the two he has. I used for a long time DX Stingray though I was trying to make a mold work for me rather then find a mold they lasted about 4-5 years during heavy use. DX Dragon works, I love the disc for the fact you know you are getting about a 150 gram disc and not a lighter disc. Dragon is great for water shots, wind at back, and some of my Anhyzer shots as I do not have a forehand. Though I have an Archer as well for Anhyzer if wind is a factor. Though in DX one has to replace Dragon disc quicker then most other discs in DX and I was wondering why it was never tried to be made at 150 grams in the Blizzard Champion so one does not have to replace the mold as quick as say every 2 years if you play more frequently.

 

[JuanA]

I never understand why DX has such a bad reputation from people who are not pros.

Some people just like shinny new plastic and will talk them selves into not even trying it.

This is actually me, so maybe I can give my perspective.

First of all, I really like DX plastic. But since I'm not a very good player, DX gets beat up pretty quickly for me (I hit a lot of stuff). Also since I'm not very good, cycling discs is difficult since I don't really know when to stop using a disc before I ruin it.

I find Champion to be my favorite since once it beats in, it stays that way for a long time. I find the predictable wear much easier to work with than knowing when a DX disc is "just right".

Also, as I get more familiar with Champion, I'm getting better at finding weights that really work well for me right from the beginning, so the break in period isn't as bad.

Lastly, some molds just don't work at all for me in DX, but they are perfect in Champion. For example, my skill level has a hard time with DX Leopards, but I don't play anywhere without a Champ version.


That being said, I'm actually here because I picked up a Champion Rhyno yesterday. Played a quick practice round last night, and threw it here at work this morning. I wasn't planning on adding it to my bag so soon, but I think it complements my Bullfrog and Mirage nicely. It will be fun to see how often I pull it out compared to the Bullfrog.

And I agree with Marmoset...I'd love to see an XT Rhyno.

 

[Keller]

^ just what you're used to then.

For me, I can't stand premium plastic putters and mids. My hands are very dry and any temperature, humidity and dampness can really affect my grip. I just like the consistent feeling of DX and not having to worry about grip is an added bonus.

So I'm a cycle discs by default and I have 4+ year old Rocs and Rhynos in the bag.

 

[JuanA]

Putters don't bother me in DX. I was using DX P&A Aviars for awhile, then went to KCPro Aviars. I also liked my DX Stud, but eventually went to Bullfrogs which are only XT. I also like my KCPro Rocs, and wouldn't mind them in DX like my Cro and Sharks.

Like I said, I do enjoy DX plastic discs, but once I start getting faster than putters and mids, I like something more durable. It's just more predictable for me, and right now I need that.

 

[tbird888]

You've been playing almost twenty years, and you don't know how to cycle discs? Did you just throw the same disc until CE plastic hit the scene?

Rhynos only get better as they hit things. Don't give up on it because it has a few nicks on it.

 

[JuanA]

You've been playing almost twenty years, and you don't know how to cycle discs? Did you just throw the same disc until CE plastic hit the scene?

Rhynos only get better as they hit things. Don't give up on because it has a few nicks on it.

lol...not exactly. I started in 2000 with a buddy from work. I played for about 5 years but took time off after breaking my collarbone and ribs again. I played once in awhile after that, but nothing serious.

When I joined here, the site asks when you started, but really I should have put down when I "re-started" which is about this time last year.

Cycling discs isn't something I ever really did, which is probably why I'm not very good at it (like many other things in disc golf)

I'm looking forward to this Rhyno though. I wasn't planning on adding it, but now I'm excited to see where it fits.

 

[dehaas]

That's the cool thing about older molds. I honestly think that cycling was considered to a certain extent with molds that were created back when there really only was base plastic. You'd have a freshie, one seasoned to "just right", and one trashed...maybe a couple of others that are working their way into just right or trashed.

Now with premium plastic being the norm I don't think that's as much of a consideration.

 

[Sydex]

Rhynos only get better as they hit things. Don't give up on it because it has a few nicks on it.

They really straighten out but maintain that low glide and HSS. I had a DX was money for straight shots up to 275' and currently bagging a GStar that I'd rate as 3/1/0/0 at the same distance. Wind doesn't affect it at all. DX was the same until I hit some hard packed dirt near a pond and it didn't stop in time. Local club fished it out and posted it on their FB page. When I posted claiming it it suddenly disappeared but one of their regulars suddenly has a new favorite DX Rhyno with black ink all over the rim (where I put my info). Just another reason why I dislike that club. Okay, I started ranting there.

 

[tbird888]

I think baseline would be more popular if it didn't have the "less stable" (somehow becomes flippy to most people) and "instantly flippy after one tree hit" stigma. I think up to the TB/Eagle speed range has a reasonable lifespan. DX Rocs are the "least durable", but they become magic faster than anything. It still takes a long time for them to get there though.

 

[JuanA]

I played 2 more rounds today with my Rhyno. I mainly want to use this as an approach disc, so I threw it on every approach along with my Bullfrog. Aside from the thumbtrac, it feels very similar in my hand.

So do you Rhyno Gurus prefer this disc Lazer straight? I really like the the high fade it gives, and how easy it forehands... even for me.

So far I'm keeping it in the bag, and would like to try some other plastics. Which plastics besides Champion keeps the high LSS? Any straighter and I'd rather stick to my Bullfrogs.

Thanks everyone!