am i throwing too fast of discs?

[Hellweg]

I throw, rhbh, a 175 orc about 300 ft and a 171 beast a little farther, they go mostly straight.
are these discs most likely too fast for me or could there be a different problem?
i was thinking about switching to the tee-bird

 

[BrotherDave]

You'll prolly get more control out of the Teebird. Try a Valk or Viking if you don't want to scale down too much. If you can't turn over one of those, than yeah the orc and beast are prolly too fast for you.

 

[Dthunderchicken]

If you can't turn over one of those, than yeah the orc and beast are prolly too fast for you.

Well said. When I was rehabbing the last time. I didn't pick up a driver till I could turn over my mids. I wish I would have started that way. It would have saved me a good bit of frustration.

 

[tamahawk]

you may try a little less weight as well. i throw around 300ft too, and have found that a slight reduction in disc weight has been a nice benefit to me. I stick between 165-170. worth a shot. i'll second the valk, great disc! i prefer it in DX plastic myself.

 

[Hellweg]

well i can easily turn over my mids, my buzzz anyway its really the only mid i have. but i can turn over my 175 sidewinder without trying

 

[BrotherDave]

well i can easily turn over my mids, my buzzz anyway its really the only mid i have. but i can turn over my 175 sidewinder without trying

That's not saying too much, sidewinder's are really under stable, that's why they are good noob drivers. Like I said before, Teebirds are great control drivers and unless you play some really long and open courses, The 'Bird is all the disc you'll ever need really. Just a really solid, stable driver.

 

[garublador]

Yes, the Beast and Orc are too fast for you. At that distance I'd avoid the Teebird as well.

The Polaris LS or DX Cheetah will be very controlable and really good for learning line shaping. The DX Gazelle or D Cyclone will start off on the overstable side but break in to be really controlable and they won't get squirrley no matter how far you're throwing.

 

[aarikc17]

I don't think they are too much for you. The orc and beast are designed for people with a little less power. If you are throwing both of them straight maybe not, you should def. be turning over the beast if you throw the orc like that.

Stick with what you got and work on your snap.

 

[Hellweg]

well i do turn over my beast, but even when i put a little hyzer on it it only goes as far.
I was thinking about picking up a viking or valkyrie.. thoughts?

 

[waynewf]

well i do turn over my beast, but even when i put a little hyzer on it it only goes as far.
I was thinking about picking up a viking or valkyrie.. thoughts?

I've been playing for a long time, I've bought a lot of discs, and I still can't believe I didn't get a nice Valk until a couple of weeks ago. I got a 168 Star Valk and am not looking back...it's simply an amazing disc...

 

[BrotherDave]

well i do turn over my beast, but even when i put a little hyzer on it it only goes as far.
I was thinking about picking up a viking or valkyrie.. thoughts?

You can crank out some good D with either one. Valks are a bit more beginner friendly since they have a bit more turn. I still advocate a Teebird though, they're just really user friendly. Can't go wrong with any of the 3 for you probably.

 

[Hellweg]

do you think a valk would turn over on me?

 

[BrotherDave]

do you think a valk would turn over on me?

a 170 or higher champ or star new Valk will probably not flip on you. Get it worn in, who knows. They're sweet little discs either way, use to have the distance record for awhile. They can be a tad nose angle sensitive but once you get that nose down they'll sail. I got mine secondhand and I use it for big hyzer flips.

 

[WillACarpenter]

You'll prolly get more control out of the Teebird. Try a Valk or Viking if you don't want to scale down too much. If you can't turn over one of those, than yeah the orc and beast are prolly too fast for you.

What *exactly* do you mean when you say turn over? I'm sure this is just a different choice of words that I've used...but everybody else seems to use the term and I'm confused.

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[garublador]

well i do turn over my beast, but even when i put a little hyzer on it it only goes as far.
I was thinking about picking up a viking or valkyrie.. thoughts?

Either of those discs will be less squirrley than the Beast and they're both a bit slower. IMO, they're both much better discs.

 

[aarikc17]

What *exactly* do you mean when you say turn over? I'm sure this is just a different choice of words that I've used...but everybody else seems to use the term and I'm confused.

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When I say that I turn over a disc I mean when I throw a disc with a little hyzer (maybe 10-15 degrees). Upon doing so the torque from the throw "turns" the disc "over" into an anhyzer line (maybe 10-15 degrees). The is good unless your disc never comes out of the anhyzer and crashes into the ground. You want your disc to begin to "fade" back straight or into a hyzer line for the most distance.

A viking or valk. is a good choice. I've heard the viking is like a faster teebird.

If you are turning over a beast I don't see how you will get more distance from a slower disc (albeit not very much slower).

 

[BrotherDave]

If you are turning over a beast I don't see how you will get more distance from a slower disc (albeit not very much slower).

The point I was making that if you're throwing around 300' you can get that much D with a Teebird but with more accuracy, generally.

 

[Hellweg]

maybe i should just practice hyzer flipping, i just seem to put toomuch angle on it

 

[Adaven]

sorry to get off track but does the disc turnover because of torque or spin?

 

[Hellweg]

im not sure.. how could you tell the difference