Ultra light discs, what are they good for?

[Questatement]

I picked up a 109g DX Rancho ROC and, after a couple dozen of throws or so, have been thinking about a local course here in So. Cal. called Chavez Ridge.

It's a short, technical course and for 2/3 of the holes, rolling downhill comes into play. The front 9 in particular can see rolls of over 300' and a drop in elevation of 75+ feet. Basically, 2-3 added strokes for the worst case scenario roll... sometimes nothing more than a bad bounce off the basket.

I can't help but to notice that this 109g disc has no ability to roll any length and assuming there is no head or cross wind, should come in handy on this course. I can get about 250' with it which covers about half of the holes on this course.

Does anyone have experience with these ultra light discs and what they might be useful for?

 

[bobmcnelly]

I didn't even know discs that light existed. Are they legal for tournament play?

 

[DavidSauls]

They exist---they're generally considered kids' discs. I've seen a bunch around 120g; 109g is pretty light. They are terrific for smaller children.

Personally, I can't control them with any power at all. But if you can throw them and they work for you, why not? They are legal.

 

[Vorpaljesus]

Absolutely nothing! Say it again y'all

 

[DGfan68]

I have tried a number of light, blizzard, air, ect. discs and for me, as long as there was ABSOLUTELY no wind, they were still inconsistent. Addressing rolling, over skidding or things like that for a mid, I use and love D.D. Suspect. They are now making them in the softer compounds they make their putters in and I use one of those instead of the Lucid plastic. Now on the shots where I would be concerned of over skidding or rolling, my Suspect in classic soft just hits and sits. Good luck.

 

[Sunday Mike]

Absolutely nothing! Say it again y'all

You forgot the "Good God!!":doh:

 

[Jukeshoe]

Absolutely nothing! Say it again y'all

 

[mattc]

It's a short, technical course and for 2/3 of the holes, rolling downhill comes into play. The front 9 in particular can see rolls of over 300' and a drop in elevation of 75+ feet. Basically, 2-3 added strokes for the worst case scenario roll... sometimes nothing more than a bad bounce off the basket.

get a vibram soft putter and mids
most times they hit and sit

 

[banknwank]

I had a139 skeeter....you could throw that on a hyzer flip , under the lowest of ceilings, with just a Wrist flick. Super light stuff is great for for anyone under powered, but they can't handle any wind and get flippy with little increase in skill/power. I wouldn't suggest going under 150 class stuff if you plan on learning to throw, and 150 stuff can be out grown quickly as well. My local shop is kind of funny, you can get 150 class or max weight. I have found stuff around 160-165 to my happy place at around 300 ft of power. A little heavier on mids and putters. A light weight putter and the slightest breeze =boge

 

[jenb]

If you luck into an overstable, high speed, lightweight disc, it can be useful for distance in a tailwind. Throw a big sky anny and it catches the tailwind like a sail as it fades back.

From what I'm told, many of the distance records over the years were set with lower weight, overstable discs thrown in strong tail wind in just this fashion. I think the current men's and women's world distance records were set this way.

So if you have a long hole in a wide open field and a strong tailwind, go for it.

 

[Questatement]

I have tried a number of light, blizzard, air, ect. discs and for me, as long as there was ABSOLUTELY no wind, they were still inconsistent. Addressing rolling, over skidding or things like that for a mid, I use and love D.D. Suspect. They are now making them in the softer compounds they make their putters in and I use one of those instead of the Lucid plastic. Now on the shots where I would be concerned of over skidding or rolling, my Suspect in classic soft just hits and sits. Good luck.

I thought all the ultra-light plastics were for fairway and long distance drivers? Anyway, I'll admit my roc is an extreme case as far is lightweight mids but I was thinking of something like a 130 ish shark which are readily available.

 

[Questatement]

get a vibram soft putter and mids
most times they hit and sit

Any Chavez victims other then me want to testify that just about everything rolls there?

 

[DavidSauls]

There's "light"....and then there's "superlight".

Lighter-than-max discs, 165-170g, may suit those with less power.

150-class discs suit even less power. Thrown with much speed, they can be hard to control.

Blizzard (and, I presume, Starlite) discs are mostly drivers, and seem to me, as a weak arm, to be more reliable than equally-light discs of other plastics. I haven't thrown the floater-weight, 137g blizzard drivers, but have seen a 990-rated player throw them well.

But the kids' discs, 105-120g or whatever, which the O.P. apparently has, are a whole different matter.

 

[TheArnoldPalmer]

Absolutely nothing! Say it again y'all

Read my mind!

 

[superium]

I have a 110 wizard in my bag I bought just for the hell of it and it's very useful for getting out of trouble, stand still shots, and 100ft. upshots where you can just putt and have a run at the basket vs. losing accuracy throwing or jump putting from that distance. Flys just like a wizard under 200ft. but you cant really rip the hell out it.

 

[Questatement]

I have a 110 wizard in my bag I bought just for the hell of it and it's very useful for getting out of trouble, stand still shots, and 100ft. upshots where you can just putt and have a run at the basket vs. losing accuracy throwing or jump putting from that distance. Flys just like a wizard under 200ft. but you cant really rip the hell out it.

Yea, I noticed that 75' putts with the 109g were about as much effort as a 20-footer with a full weight putter. The other thing that I noticed was how much a super light disc pushes you to reach for ideal form.

 

[tylerc]

I have a 145 dx viper and I loved that thing when I first got it cuz I could throw it hard and it was dead straight because it is such a stable mold it did lose some stability of course and will hyzer flip now but I threw it for 2 or 3 months on all woods courses and it still is stable. I still dream of a blizzard viper..

 

[knettles]

I had a139 skeeter....you could throw that on a hyzer flip , under the lowest of ceilings, with just a Wrist flick. Super light stuff is great for for anyone under powered, but they can't handle any wind and get flippy with little increase in skill/power. I wouldn't suggest going under 150 class stuff if you plan on learning to throw, and 150 stuff can be out grown quickly as well. My local shop is kind of funny, you can get 150 class or max weight. I have found stuff around 160-165 to my happy place at around 300 ft of power. A little heavier on mids and putters. A light weight putter and the slightest breeze =boge

I would agree with this statement. As long as you're an able bodied adult, I don't think people should go lower than 150. The lighter weight stuff just becomes so unpredictable and fidgety. There's also the wind factor. You can't throw them in wind. At all. Personally, I believe the cons from ultralight discs are greater than the pros. Try some 150-160 stuff.

 

[zenbot]

Any Chavez victims other then me want to testify that just about everything rolls there?

Preach it, brother. I've seen Blowflies fall, pop up, and roll 100' at Chavez. The place is not natural, clearly surrounded by a gravity pocket, and should be destroyed by Mulder and Scully.

 

[worldwide]

I bag a 150 Eagle x as well as two max weight. I use it for stand still throws in awkward spots. so far so good