[Recommend] Understable Fairway - Reliable Turn w/out Burn

[Alcuin]

Get a more stable GL River: domey, max weight, in stiff plastic. The River seemed to work for you, so why not just use that?

Otherwise, you can learn to do throw the shot you're looking for with with any understable fairway driver.

 

[Mike C]

Axiom Inspire.

Me and some friends just did a field test for a new Inspire video with them and compared to the F7's and Leo's we threw along side of them, they were much more reliable. Consistent high speed turn with a subtle, late fade to prevent rolling out.

 

[Questatement]

Wait, the Leo that's been consistently turning over for thousands of players since 1999 doesn't do it anymore?

 

[Mike C]

I like Leo's and they were my first disc I really clicked with, but I'm just saying the Inspire is easier for me to control off the tee. 15 years is a lot of time to improve upon something.

 

[Questatement]

LOL, just messin' with you man.

My go-to for distance is a 2nd gen, CE QJLS.

Doesn't go as far as some but hits the line 9/10 times for me.:clap:

 

[Chainsgoching]

Axiom Inspire.

Me and some friends just did a field test for a new Inspire video with them and compared to the F7's and Leo's we threw along side of them, they were much more reliable. Consistent high speed turn with a subtle, late fade to prevent rolling out.

More reliable than a Leopard???? Holy smokes, must be the most reliable disc ever. Going to check one out ASAP

 

[slowplastic]

What weight and plastic River did you have? I have a 170g Opto that was a turner out of the box (shocked me at how much) and it is still about the same stability. I like it better than the Leo I had for this shot, although I throw harder now so it would be interesting to compare again. I just find the River quite understable so I know it will turn on every single shot, so I know to account for it. That being said it can be a bit finicky for anhyzers as it will keep turning and getting more aggressively to the right throughout its flight.

Someone mentioned an FD Jackal earlier in this thread, I think it's definitely more stable than the River. I think it may be better for holding anhyzers since its turn wouldn't change the flight as much during the throw...but I think it's less easy to do the flat to turn throw you are saying you want. It will definitely do this, but I find the River being even more understable is easier to predict for this turning shot.

Anyways, you have already thrown Rivers so if it was an opto and it still beat in too quick then my experiences don't really help you, since you already know how it acts. What distance are you using this flat to turn shot for?

 

[iLessThan3DiscGolf]

I think my Opto River was sub 170, with a decent dome but no pop-top. It got beat up pretty badly as I used it to dial in my game; lots of river/putter only in the woods.

I've got a couple hole on my home courses ~300' that are a turn-right but not dogleg. Looking for something I can toss flat and let the disc work right, instead of forcing it. And maybe double it as a roller.

I'm leaning towards the Underworld, or the River. I was looking to see what others may suggest for me.

Oh! And I was hoping Mike C would chime in with an MVP/Axiom suggestion, as those molds really really intrigue me but I haven't really found one that speaks to me yet. Thanks Mike!

Thanks guys!

 

[Questatement]

I took a 164 star TL from semi-fresh 8/10 to flippy over a 2 year period and that disc taught me how to throw understable. Especially at the end trying to control and hold onto that sweet spot until I had to admit defeat.

 

[Dan Ensor]

A faster disc will start coming out of a turn sooner to prevent burning. A more neutral disc won't turn over as much to prevent burning.

Leo is my suggestion, but if that doesn't work I'd speed up to a Valk, or neutral up to a Stalker. Obviously many discs very similar to each of those; just the 2 that came to mind.

 

[Oklahyzer]

Another vote for a Leopard. Pro might start out right where you want to be or you can work in a lighter weight star. Sounds just about perfect for the holes you describe. A beat in TL also does this nicely and will carry a little further than the Leo, slightly less chance of burning it, which is nice on those long turns where you don't want it to roll off the fairway and/or can't see where it went. A 160-ish Roadrunner would also do this for you on a flat throw and you won't need to power it up as much as normal. I love Lat and Westside discs and mostly throw those, but I think the old Innova standbys are better for this particular situation, especially since you want to stay with a flat throw. If you didn't mind hyzer flipping into a flat turn, there sure some good discs for that and that works a lot better than a flat throw for US turns, imo. If you have height to work with then you can do this with lots of discs. Seriously think about the right Leo.

 

[ODRB]

Patriots, inspires, traks -- all good for this (the trak needs a little LSS beaten out of it, but not much).

 

[banknwank]

It you find the disc you can get to turn every time you ask it to...it will have the potential to burn on you with too much power , oat , headwind or slight anny release. It's a delicate balance . And you want enough stability for it to get back to flat, or it will crash and cut roll. I have found most innova speed six fairways to be turn overs if I want . But Leo's are best. You will have to experiment with different weights and plastics to find the one you like. Dx I can turn all day, max weight star I can't...... For longer fairway turn overs, I have been having better luck throwing anny with a gazelle to get nice fairway right turners that can take some wreck less oat without crashing. In comparison to trying control something "flippy".

 

[thePiRaTE]

Hello fellow DGCR users.

As the title suggests, I'm in need of some help. I've been bagging an F7 most of the year, but even after beating two of them in neither of them are reliable. I know some of it is personal form, but I've worked on a solid throw and I'm still having issues. As a RHBH; The F7 will either turn & burn, or turn slightly and come right back into a straight/fade.

I'm lost without the reliable Flat-to-turn fairway shot that I had all last year with a River, before it went toast and I tried the F7. No dice. I'm reluctant to try the River again, as it started to turn wayyy too much within a couple months.

So please, what Fairway Driver do you use and/or recommend for the Understable Turning slot?

TL;DR: Understable Fairway - What cha got?

I love this slot personally and have tried many discs in the role. Amp and River, F7 and Leopard too among others. Leopard was my first and I recently grabbed a fresh g* for fun. If you want a leopard that fights out more, go Champ though. F7 is much easier to turn-over. I would hesitate to call it a control driver - it's like the antithesis of a FireBird. For anny in strong tailwinds, or a roller after clearing an obstacle in the air - F7. For flip to flat lasers or anny's that fight out I'm using the Inspire at the moment. I used to bag the Amp for that, but lost it. Bagged the River for that until I got my amp back - and then lost it again. Now I am very pleased with the Inspire. Easy to control but has some spine to it.

 

[scotnt73]

Diamond is my secret weapon for this slot. Right out of the box I can hyzerflip them to straight and then get a long slow turnover that doesn't fade back. Any plastic except moonshine from my experience has been money.

 

[Mr. Butlertron]

Diamonds are a girly arms best friend. The Patriot, Leopard, and Xpress are also very similar. I personally bag a lightweight Champion Leopard. It's got the glide and controlability of DX, but still Champion tough. The only downside is that lighter discs are less reliable in a headwind, but it's doubtful any of these would be thrown into headwind max weight or not.

 

[BirdieMachine]

Icon Patriot or Pro Leopard would suit you best.

 

[zgmc]

Wait, the Leo that's been consistently turning over for thousands of players since 1999 doesn't do it anymore?

I have one that doesnt turn over. I also have an F7 and a fury that work for that shot.

 

[goeyj]

I have a pro leopard that's been getting worked in. Can't imagine a better US fairway slot. If you have some room to work this thing is sneaky far! Hyzer flip machine!

 

[dannyboy0076]

The Fury IMO is the best disc for this slot. Slightly more stable than the river and can hold any line. I know it's a speed 9 and considered a control driver, but IT's a great disc. When thrown hard it flips up, glides forever and has a minimal fade at the end. Mine are opto line @ 168 and 172. The 168 is brand new and basically a back up. I reach for the 172 on just about every hole over 300'.