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Short stride

I keep being blown away by what power you can create with this hip shift. I've never thrown anywhere as strongly as I've been throwing in the last couple months. My x-step is almost zero mph.

As the hit shifts forward, nearly all my force is rotational.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MCadyGYq1Ro&t=6m58s

That shot is my goal in terms of power and control.

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So much of it has to do with that back foot being up on the toes. 1-step / stand-still / step - whatever, you gotta get that back foot up to change the angles to un-cork those hips.
 
"My x-step is almost zero mph." - Nice, would like to see an updated video of your form now. It's obvious most advanced/pro players use a very slow x-step with an incredible acceleration through the hit.
 
"My x-step is almost zero mph." - Nice, would like to see an updated video of your form now. It's obvious most advanced/pro players use a very slow x-step with an incredible acceleration through the hit.



Tried to shoot some today.

That's about it. Add a little tiny bit of nose down and you get more turn and more distance when you increase the trajectory just 5' higher.
 
Tried to shoot some today.

That's about it. Add a little tiny bit of nose down and you get more turn and more distance when you increase the trajectory just 5' higher.

Yep, that looks like it'll work. My x-step is way slow now as well. It just makes sense. Now...I have seen Mr. McBeth do a sky anny shot in person and he does move pretty fast in the x-step for that type of shot.
 
Lead with your butt more. You are lifting your front foot/knee/leg too much which tilts you away from the target.

 
I agree, SW - I was taking heat off the disc because I had run outta field. More hip forward, more hammer forward - you add quite a bit of distance and start hitting the street.

If the damn volleyball people would leave the park to me, I could have gotten into it a bit harder.

http://i.imgur.com/PXt5gJz.png

I had a few that were near the last light post at 470' with not much more hip (more hammer) and a hyzer flip with a Daedalus that clipped a tree that I think might have been past 500'.

Hyzer's are so much easier to hold onto later for me.

It was warm today, everything felt really loose and like the angles were just clicking and I was throwing better than ever.
 
I like this one better, text book weight shift from the knees:
 
That dude's a beast. My biggest takeaway from some of these videos is how much core power you get from the abdominal muscles. Feels like funneling the power down a path. Super bizarre sensation today, where it felt like I was putting zero effort in and the timing was doing absolutely everything.
 
Who would have thunk that throwing something is less about doing it with your arms and more about doing it with your hips and shoulders. Just let the arm be the lever and let the hips power the lever.
 
I wish I could understand the feel of this- the one thing I seem to be having the most trouble understanding is that the arm extends before the shoulders open- it seems that if the hips/core pull the arm around, then the shoulders should start to move before the arm extends. Need to get past that.
 
If the shoulders pull the arm the entire way, the shoulders will max out (eg: they will be facing 12 o'clock and no longer to rotate any further) before they can get the arm up to speed. You need to get your arm out and away from you (like one of those little helicopter toys before your shoulders and core can accelerate your arm at maximum speed.

example of helicopter toy: http://www.amazon.com/Plastic-Drago...23586926&sr=8-1&keywords=twirl+helicopter+toy
 
Can you describe for me what you mean by "more hammer"? I know I've asked you about this before, but I'm still not getting it.

Let's have another go at explaining this. I think about it quite often, because I want it to be explainable.

Sitting in a meeting today it occurs to me that this might explain it.

The final arc that gets added to the release is the hammer blow.

The arc is easiest thought of as the 3-4:00 pull, that is going to transform the system. The disc to this point has been moving forward into the right pec, then moved forward as the forearm extends about half way - but the timing hasn't kicked in yet to multiply the speed.

Mental imagery thought exprirement:
With the grip at 3:00 on the disc, how would you throw the BACK of the disc (the 6:00 part of the disc) forward?

You would have to hammer that disc from the right edge of the rim. at 12-3:00 the disc goes from behind your hand to 4:00 being hammered forward.

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Specifically at F, on the image - the 'handle' on the disc, see how it's rotating forward?

I'd suggest finding a post or a something you don't mind smashing and a disc you don't mind potentially damaging and slowly extend the disc so that you would be hammering a nail on the left side of the post.

had to draw this... too hard to explain:

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What seems to change from a standard half-hit or slip is how much of the acceleration happens between 3-4:00 and so there's this point in your work where you have to move however slow you have to go so that you are able to know that you are getting the final arc.

Moving fast will make it probably 500% harder to hold through the hit. Once you get the feel for this micro window of the last hammer arc, adding speed back into the system becomes slightly more reasonable.
 
Hammer head should nail/fly targetward not to the right.
 
I've added some markings to your drawing. The mass of the disc is going targetward (like SW says), but your are "pulling" sideways. It gives the sensation of flinging the disc forward towards the target. As the disc rotates out of the fling, it leaves your index/thumb pinch right around ~4 o'clock.

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