Surprised if it happens:
-Announcement of DGPT coverage on an additional location other than YouTube.
I came across a DGPT channel on ROKU the other day but there has been no new content since 2017.
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Surprised if it happens:
-Announcement of DGPT coverage on an additional location other than YouTube.
You're going to boycott DGPT event and coverage? Man, that is pretty intense loyalty, if you don't have a personal investment in the other media coverage organizations or people.
I feel no loyalty, could be a personal shortcoming. I shall not intentionally withhold something I like, from myself. Sounds like the only one coming out on the short end is me, if I do.
Somebody help me out. I'm out of the loop---don't follow the DGPT very closely, don't watch videos at all.
Steve Dodge has built the DGPT. The media guys have built their companies. The DGPT and media guys have worked together; some might say they have built a successful DGPT together.
Does this mean the DGPT is obligated to continue that business relationship, forever?
Would the converse apply? If the media guys said they didn't want to be part of the DGPT any more, would people say they are obligated to keep doing it?
You're going to boycott DGPT event and coverage? Man, that is pretty intense loyalty, if you don't have a personal investment in the other media coverage organizations or people.
I feel no loyalty, could be a personal shortcoming. I shall not intentionally withhold something I like, from myself. Sounds like the only one coming out on the short end is me, if I do.
Somebody help me out. I'm out of the loop---don't follow the DGPT very closely, don't watch videos at all.
Steve Dodge has built the DGPT. The media guys have built their companies. The DGPT and media guys have worked together; some might say they have built a successful DGPT together.
Does this mean the DGPT is obligated to continue that business relationship, forever?
Would the converse apply? If the media guys said they didn't want to be part of the DGPT any more, would people say they are obligated to keep doing it?
This has kind of been my point all along. Each are a business, investing in what will grow their business model and maximize profits. I don't think either has any obligation to one another, nor do I believe either have an obligation to "grow the sport", outside of where growth will benefit their profits.
If you hear harmony in what the media folks are saying, it's that we don't appreciate the way we've been treated by the DGPT. This is far from the first issue any of us have had with this tour or its management.
So, I mean this with no snark or smart-assed-ness intented, this is a generational thing. This is how Millennials and Gen-Z are, by and large. Not saying we're the only ones who feel this way, but it's very common across many industries for our generation to have a different rubric determining brand loyalties than the Boomers and Gen X.
...and this is not my original thought, this is what I've learned going to advertising/content conferences over the past 2-3 years. It's not native to disc golf either.
I did a flash poll on the FB group "Disc Golf Debate Group" asking people in the moment, who they felt more loyal towards - the media teams or the tour. It's approaching nearly 200 responses, and the ratio is ~25:1, in favor of media teams.
Somebody help me out. I'm out of the loop---don't follow the DGPT very closely, don't watch videos at all.
Steve Dodge has built the DGPT. The media guys have built their companies. The DGPT and media guys have worked together; some might say they have built a successful DGPT together.
Does this mean the DGPT is obligated to continue that business relationship, forever?
Would the converse apply? If the media guys said they didn't want to be part of the DGPT any more, would people say they are obligated to keep doing it?
So, I mean this with no snark or smart-assed-ness intented, this is a generational thing. This is how Millennials and Gen-Z are, by and large. Not saying we're the only ones who feel this way, but it's very common across many industries for our generation to have a different rubric determining brand loyalties than the Boomers and Gen X.
To be fair, it's not the media folks who have me a bit bewildered. It's the rest of the crowd.
It is a joke that Steve keeps saying that he has a deal on the table for Jomez and hasn't heard from them.
If Steve is going to claim his own in-house production for mpo and fpo lead/chase cards and offer scraps like third card coverage to Jomez, that is not a deal at all.
Perhaps it is a generational thing, and something I won't get. I'm in a business that has agreements for a set time and, when the agreements expire, the deal is over.
But I come back to, would the converse be true? If you decided that continuing the current business model didn't work for you, would you feel obligated to do it out of loyalty (beyond your agreed time)? Or would you leave, after your agreed time, to pursue more lucrative opportunities?
This is the part that I am against, putting disingenuous statements out to make himself look better. The same crap I hate from other sports like the NFL and NBA doing it. Every year you see some player become a free agent and sign with another team and the former team says we made him an offer to stay for the same amount of money not sure why he didnt take it. Then the details leak and the new team is $20 mil guaranteed while his old team is only $5 mil guaranteed with incentives each year to stay. They are not the same offer, one gives the player better protection while the other protects the team. Its all BS PR spin to cover their own arse for not paying him.
The smart move would have to been vague as hell, we are working with our current partners to secure the best long term solution. Done, say no more. When you start to play the media spin game you insult our intelligence and come off as disingenuous, which is how I now perceive Dodge. I had no opinion before he made his statement, now after he made it my liar detector is going off. I don't know the facts but I know that I now perceive him as disingenuous at best. :thmbdown:
Whether they're in it for a profit, or the love and growth of the sport, or---likely---a combination of the two, it still seems the same.
I understand if people are disappointed at this turn of events, thinking they won't enjoy the same (free) product they've had.
I understand if the peanut gallery thinks Dodge is making a mistake (on his own dime); second-guessing is a cherished part of sports fandom.
I'm not sure I understand the bitterness.