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Looking to jump into a neutral or slightly understable DD. Something in the speed 11-12. I have a few good FW or longer FW discs I currently use for longer holes when I have a wide fairway and just want to bomb, but want to try to find a distance driver that can get me another 10-30' or more.
My current longest consistent golf line discs are a Discmania Essence 175g, Instinct 175g, Proton Axiom Insanity 175g and a Neutron Streamline Trace 168g. All are great for certain shots, and the Trace is the closest thing to a distance driver I have. But not quite. It's still just a little more o/s for my ability right now. I can throw it 320-340 on a golf line when thrown well, but it always fades somewhat significantly at the end. Like 10-20'. Which is great for longer shots that I need to control. As I always know it isn't going to flip or turn or turn on me, and will always come back a little at the end. But it's not a pure wide open distance driver disc.
So I'm looking for something in the 11-12 speed range, 5-6+ glide and something that has a small S shape flight, with a small fade. Also would really prefer it to have a 2.2cm or smaller rim width. I have a Prodigy 400 D3 Max at 175g, but it's still too much disc for me on avg. And I really don't prefer how big the rim width is at 2.4cm. The 2.2cm rim width on my Trace is the largest I'm comfortable with. But... if the disc flew how I wanted, I guess I could get used to a 2.4cm rim. Just prefer something thinner.
I've thrown my D3 Max super far maybe 5-6 times ever in the field and it requires way too much bad form and strain to get it out there. It's gone 400ish feet those 5-6 times, which is amazing for me! But, it's not a disc I'd ever use on the course. I have NO idea where it's going to go with the amount of effort and body english I have to put on it, to get that distance. Plus unless I hit it perfect with great form and a ton of speed and flat, it just hyzers out left before it can get any real distance.
Maybe if I picked one up in the 160-170g range it would fly more like the flight path it shows? Because as of right now, it doesn't even come close to 12/6/-2.4/1.5. At 175g, is flies more like 13/5/0/3 for me! It's only when I hit it perfectly flat and with some good pace, does it fly a bit more like the numbers. But still, even on my max distance throws where it goes around 400', it's still like a 13/5/-1/2. So not sure if that's because it's a speed 12 with a HUGE rim depth of 2.4 and I just don't have good enough form to consistently hit it perfect? Or because it's a max weight at 175g? Or what? I thought when I bought it, it would be the best long distance driver for my current form and arm speed. But it's been a bust so far.
Also picked up 2 Enigma's back when they came out in 175 and 170. And neither is good for my ability at the moment. WAY too overstable for me, and I can't get then out 350-400 like a DD should be doing at my current form level. Maybe in a few years time when my form gets better and I can actually sling a disc how you're supposed to, they'll be great. But not right now.
But I'm looking for something like that. Maybe a light weight D3 Max? In the ~165g range would allow me to actually get it out there, turn and then glide forever before it eventually fades back? Or maybe even a D4 Max at around 170-175g? Anyone that has a D3 Max or D4 Max, let me know how you like it and how it flies, especially compared to other discs you bag. And what your typical distance is with it, and other drivers and fw discs?
Then I was also thinking maybe about a Prodigy H4V2? In 170-175g range? I see TONS of great reviews for that disc, and already bag a few Prodigy FW's that I love. Just not sure if it's a LONG enough disc to be considered my DD, or just a slightly longer FW? Different sites say 9 or 10 speed. Which is pretty close to my long FW's as it is. Anyone that has experience with this disc, please let me know if it flies more like a distance driver, or more like a slightly longer FW?
Maybe an MVP Wave, Innova Mystere, Innova Shryke, DD Sheriff, Prodigy X4 or X5? Or maybe one of the discs I've mentioned or some other discs I haven't, but in lighter weights or slightly softer plastics? Like a 160-170g in S type plastic?
What I'm looking for doesn't really seem to exist, at least not based solely on flight numbers. What I'd really like is a disc that was a 11 or 12 speed, 6 glide, -2 or -2.5 hss, and 1-2 lss with a 2-2.2cm rim width. Basically just a longer, glidier version of the Insanity which is perfect for my FW shots that need to go longer with less control, 9/5/-2/1. And a smaller tighter S turn flight, as opposed to some huge sweeping right turn, then huge fade back left. I don't want that.
And a flight path along these lines:
My current longest consistent golf line discs are a Discmania Essence 175g, Instinct 175g, Proton Axiom Insanity 175g and a Neutron Streamline Trace 168g. All are great for certain shots, and the Trace is the closest thing to a distance driver I have. But not quite. It's still just a little more o/s for my ability right now. I can throw it 320-340 on a golf line when thrown well, but it always fades somewhat significantly at the end. Like 10-20'. Which is great for longer shots that I need to control. As I always know it isn't going to flip or turn or turn on me, and will always come back a little at the end. But it's not a pure wide open distance driver disc.
So I'm looking for something in the 11-12 speed range, 5-6+ glide and something that has a small S shape flight, with a small fade. Also would really prefer it to have a 2.2cm or smaller rim width. I have a Prodigy 400 D3 Max at 175g, but it's still too much disc for me on avg. And I really don't prefer how big the rim width is at 2.4cm. The 2.2cm rim width on my Trace is the largest I'm comfortable with. But... if the disc flew how I wanted, I guess I could get used to a 2.4cm rim. Just prefer something thinner.
I've thrown my D3 Max super far maybe 5-6 times ever in the field and it requires way too much bad form and strain to get it out there. It's gone 400ish feet those 5-6 times, which is amazing for me! But, it's not a disc I'd ever use on the course. I have NO idea where it's going to go with the amount of effort and body english I have to put on it, to get that distance. Plus unless I hit it perfect with great form and a ton of speed and flat, it just hyzers out left before it can get any real distance.
Maybe if I picked one up in the 160-170g range it would fly more like the flight path it shows? Because as of right now, it doesn't even come close to 12/6/-2.4/1.5. At 175g, is flies more like 13/5/0/3 for me! It's only when I hit it perfectly flat and with some good pace, does it fly a bit more like the numbers. But still, even on my max distance throws where it goes around 400', it's still like a 13/5/-1/2. So not sure if that's because it's a speed 12 with a HUGE rim depth of 2.4 and I just don't have good enough form to consistently hit it perfect? Or because it's a max weight at 175g? Or what? I thought when I bought it, it would be the best long distance driver for my current form and arm speed. But it's been a bust so far.
Also picked up 2 Enigma's back when they came out in 175 and 170. And neither is good for my ability at the moment. WAY too overstable for me, and I can't get then out 350-400 like a DD should be doing at my current form level. Maybe in a few years time when my form gets better and I can actually sling a disc how you're supposed to, they'll be great. But not right now.
But I'm looking for something like that. Maybe a light weight D3 Max? In the ~165g range would allow me to actually get it out there, turn and then glide forever before it eventually fades back? Or maybe even a D4 Max at around 170-175g? Anyone that has a D3 Max or D4 Max, let me know how you like it and how it flies, especially compared to other discs you bag. And what your typical distance is with it, and other drivers and fw discs?
Then I was also thinking maybe about a Prodigy H4V2? In 170-175g range? I see TONS of great reviews for that disc, and already bag a few Prodigy FW's that I love. Just not sure if it's a LONG enough disc to be considered my DD, or just a slightly longer FW? Different sites say 9 or 10 speed. Which is pretty close to my long FW's as it is. Anyone that has experience with this disc, please let me know if it flies more like a distance driver, or more like a slightly longer FW?
Maybe an MVP Wave, Innova Mystere, Innova Shryke, DD Sheriff, Prodigy X4 or X5? Or maybe one of the discs I've mentioned or some other discs I haven't, but in lighter weights or slightly softer plastics? Like a 160-170g in S type plastic?
What I'm looking for doesn't really seem to exist, at least not based solely on flight numbers. What I'd really like is a disc that was a 11 or 12 speed, 6 glide, -2 or -2.5 hss, and 1-2 lss with a 2-2.2cm rim width. Basically just a longer, glidier version of the Insanity which is perfect for my FW shots that need to go longer with less control, 9/5/-2/1. And a smaller tighter S turn flight, as opposed to some huge sweeping right turn, then huge fade back left. I don't want that.
And a flight path along these lines: