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[Gateway] Gateway Wizard
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I just want to try out a Wizard vs my Omega Big Bead since the Wizard has a lot more plastic choices and the Scale is basically a Wizard. But I like softer plastics for putting and harder ones for throwing.
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tbird888
Salient Disc Test Team
Contact Gateway directly and describe the blends you want.
pjhayes7
Double Eagle Member
Start with RFF. You can find some that is like Trilogy Soft and some more like Trilogy Medium (sorry not familiar with Millennium's blends). Also, much of the Special Blend runs have been pretty soft (though like other Gateway plastic, this is not true with all the special blends).
I have had an RFF Scale. It was way stiffer then what I am looking for but it may have been are firmer run of RFF. The Supersoft is from what I remember of Trilogy softer then soft but not as soft as megasoft.
I was thinking 4S as a possibility but I will contact Gateway directly and see what they have.
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pjhayes7
Double Eagle Member
Supersoft and Megasoft are the same blend, former is Dynamic latter is Latitude and Westside.
I typically don't like discs that floppy, so I am not too sure what 4S is like. Just get one and if you don't like it, you should be able to get rid of it pretty easily. Just be aware you are going down the rabbit hole with Wizards. They are an awesome mold and I use them, but be prepared as you can never have too many. And with each one being slightly different, there is always another to try.
pjhayes7
Double Eagle Member
My fault. Obviously I don't know Millenium plastic. Good luck with your search, which if you are anything like me, is endless.
hendryxdisc
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Looking to grab some wizards, I am wondering if there is a current run out that is stiffer along the lines of these discs; p-p2, mcpro aviar, kcp aviar, zero hard anyhing etc.) sans the slickness that tends to accompany them. I have been looking for something the feels like dga-d line/zero medium just stiffer in flex. I though possibly SS glow wizards but can't find glow wiz anywhere. Any suggestions?
PocketSand
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Wizard
Fossil. Best feeling baseline plastic in the game.
Fossil. Best feeling baseline plastic in the game.
Audible Vibration
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I was just going to say the same thing. I recently got a fossil and fossil fuel wizard, and they are both firm and slick.
pjhayes7
Double Eagle Member
Maybe PWP, Fossil, or G25. I also have a black Organic from last year that is much stiffer than other Organics I have felt, but still has a gritty feeling (not slick at all). Some online retailers will specify how stiff the discs are, which makes it easier to pick. Also, if they do come in slick, just wash them with soap and water, as that usually does the trick.
hendryxdisc
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I have been not paying attention to the gateway plastic/wizard game for a while, what does PWP stand for? Does fossil come in only one stiffness?
PWP was "pure white prototype". It yellowed in sunlight. The new "PW", production blend, is stiffer and better and doesn't seem to yellow. They're great OS throwers and nice stuff putters. I'll stick to putting with G25s until I run out, but these will make great stand-ins once I am out of G25 (which you can't really get anymore).
I like the Fossil plastic very much. A fossil Scale is my glideless OS approach and driving Wiz, but they've not started very OS in my opinion, and so the fill the straight and US throwing putter roles. They do make GREAT off the shelf putting putters too. They just don't have that nice mildly-OS Wizard flight at full power (200-250ish feet).
Stiffer OGs and stiffer "S" blends are great too, for what you're asking about.
Wizards FTW.
I like the Fossil plastic very much. A fossil Scale is my glideless OS approach and driving Wiz, but they've not started very OS in my opinion, and so the fill the straight and US throwing putter roles. They do make GREAT off the shelf putting putters too. They just don't have that nice mildly-OS Wizard flight at full power (200-250ish feet).
Stiffer OGs and stiffer "S" blends are great too, for what you're asking about.
Wizards FTW.
hendryxdisc
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I have thrown/fondled a scale but liked the depth of the wizard better. I guess I should just call Gateway, their putter deals are pretty sweet. It's tough to find that stiff but not slick putter that's mildly OS.
Sorry. I was not clear at all.
I use a Scale as a glideless/OS approach Wiz. But Fossil WIZARDS are not OS to start -- neutral at best at power. So I use the following Wizard setup"
Fossil Scale -- OS/Glideless placement/driving/approach Wizard and headwind putter.
PW Wizard -- Mildly OS driving and upshot putter.
G25 Wizard -- Putting only (great throwers, but I only have 5 and so I reserve them for putting. If they would do another run, I would buy 15 with my Team's stamp and never throw anything else.)
Fossil Wizard -- US thrower and backup/tailwind/anny putter.
pjhayes7
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I know the PWPs yellowed, but were they decent otherwise?
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yes. but the PWs are better (there were at least two runs of PWPs, some stiffer than the other while the PWs have been consistently stiff and gritty, IMO).
pjhayes7
Double Eagle Member
Just won a bid on a G25. Looking forward to it, but my wallet blames you ODRB. I really needed another Wizard about like a hole in the head.
Oh no. There was no reason for that at all. PWs are great if you like stiff, OS, and flat. I have just gotten used to putting the G25s -- same one has been in my putting slot for over 2 years now.
