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I don't understand DGCR reviews/ratings

Good to know I suppose. I only know of him from here, and he's come across as a petulant, whiny, little (insert expletive here).
I've played with people that mentioned that they were surprised that I wasn't more of an arrogant know-it-all based on reading my posts.

I've played with people who expected me to have a long-winded story for every throw (I mean I do, but I have a filter IRL.)

Basically everyone I meet is surprised at how bad/short my drives are and that my putting is basically meh but not all that bad compared to how horrific the rest of my game is. I get asked why I still play a lot, which I find to be a weird question. I play because I'm a disc golfer, duh. I never saw it written down anywhere where it said I had to be any good. :| Basically if you met me in a park and played a round with me without knowing I'm on DGCR, you would wonder why the n00b had a Zuca cart.

It's really hard to get a feel for somebody online.
 
I've played with people that mentioned that they were surprised that I wasn't more of an arrogant know-it-all based on reading my posts.

I've played with people who expected me to have a long-winded story for every throw (I mean I do, but I have a filter IRL.)

Basically everyone I meet is surprised at how bad/short my drives are and that my putting is basically meh but not all that bad compared to how horrific the rest of my game is. I get asked why I still play a lot, which I find to be a weird question. I play because I'm a disc golfer, duh. I never saw it written down anywhere where it said I had to be any good. :| Basically if you met me in a park and played a round with me without knowing I'm on DGCR, you would wonder why the n00b had a Zuca cart.

It's really hard to get a feel for somebody online.


Fair points.
 
Well... yes! His last two posts were 7/18/18 and 1/31/16. Ancient history at this point.
 
Your course is still on the site, it's just listed as extinct. Perhaps there is a way to fix that???

I rarely leave DGCR reviews because the page refreshes after 10 minutes and I've had so many reviews get deleted as I hit the post button.

I also only usually leave them for courses that don't have many other reviews.

https://www.dgcoursereview.com/course.php?id=3127


I ran into that problem early on, so now I write my reviews in an Excel file (you could also use something like Word), I have one with other DG stuff in it, so its all in the same place.

When I feel like writing, I'll work on a review for 30-45 mins, or more, saving when needed, then when I'm ready to post it, I just copy and paste from that file into the website. Usually the thing that takes the longest is thinking of a "clever" name for my review. :D
 
I've played with people that mentioned that they were surprised that I wasn't more of an arrogant know-it-all based on reading my posts.

Maybe because it took all of this...

I've played with people who expected me to have a long-winded story for every throw (I mean I do, but I have a filter IRL.)

Basically everyone I meet is surprised at how bad/short my drives are and that my putting is basically meh but not all that bad compared to how horrific the rest of my game is. I get asked why I still play a lot, which I find to be a weird question. I play because I'm a disc golfer, duh. I never saw it written down anywhere where it said I had to be any good. :| Basically if you met me in a park and played a round with me without knowing I'm on DGCR, you would wonder why the n00b had a Zuca cart.

...to say this.

It's really hard to get a feel for somebody online.

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Maybe because it took all of this...



...to say this.



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Dude, I'm not on twitter for a reason. :|

IRL during a round I'm pretty conscious of the fact that even without talking I play slow as molasses so whoever I'm throwing with is already waiting on me. Part of it is a feature of the fact that they guy who sucks the worst is teeing last, and if the guy who sucks worst throws the shortest drive you are going to have a lot of holes where the guy who is out has to pick up his stuff and get moving after the rest of the card (who had their bags picked up and were ready to move) are already 20' ahead of you down the fairway. They get to your lie and glare back at you all...

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...while you are just trying to hustle to your lie. THEN you don't line up your shot very well because really all you want at that point is to get far enough up that you are NOT the guy everyone is waiting on so you make some other terrible shot that hopefully at least gets in front of somebody so you can catch your breath before you have to scramble to save bogey. Repeat 18 times; there isn't a lot of time for chit-chat. :|
 
One social factor that produces higher ratings on UDisc than DGCR is less anonymity of reviewers using UDisc. If you are known, especially locally, you're more likely to give a positive rating/review in the same way people say nice things to party hosts, "Wonderful place, great party, love to come back again", etc. You may have heard, "the most truthful comments of the night are spoken in their cars as guests drive home." Fewer of those remarks are likely to get included in UDisc reviews.

Some players with negative opinions remember their parents saying, "If you don't have something nice to say, say nothing at all," which results in few if any lower ratings being posted perhaps only from known curmudgeons or those lesser known with an axe to grind. One key reason I don't post many critical course remarks is being well-known in the DG community. However, if I do have critical or hopefully constructive remarks, I'll share them directly and privately with the course designer/owner.

So, with DGCR allowing anonymous accounts and multiple accounts for the same person, we'll occasionally see more homer, drive-by 5.0s on new courses and a few more ratings 2 or more points below a course's current rating when someone has a bad day. On the other hand, anonymity provides some thoughtful players the ability to provide solid feedback without social pressure to sugar coat it allowing a few more objective reviews/ratings in the DGCR mix. The long form reviews on DGCR also allow our more public reviewers to explain their critiques to virtually "save face" with the designers/owners, whereas a one-liner review (less likely to be posted on UDisc) such as "This course sucks!" provides little context or help for readers to understand why.
 
Mashnut/Tallpaul/harr0140 are my...um...spirit animals ;)
It took me a really long time to find value in harr0140's reviews. He and I just were not on the same page in how we looked at courses, and it took me a lot longer to figure out what he was talking about than I'd like to admit to. Mashnut to a lesser degree, but they both had fresher eyes to disc golf than I did. I was old-school "Benches? We don't need no stinkin' benches!" After a bit I started to realize that yes, being able to find your way around the course is a good thing so maybe lack of tee signs should matter. :p

Tallpaul could write my reviews for me, though.

As an aside, I'm got a nastygram from a course designer because I blasted his course for poor flow/no tee signs. He told me to use UDisc to find my way around. This to me is unacceptable; I will cling to the old-school rules that if I can't show up and find my way around the course without a map or a guide, that is a problem.
 
As an aside, I'm got a nastygram from a course designer because I blasted his course for poor flow/no tee signs. He told me to use UDisc to find my way around.

SMFH at the underlined.

QFT
If I can't show up and find my way around the course without a map or a guide, that is a problem.
 
It took me a really long time to find value in harr0140's reviews. He and I just were not on the same page in how we looked at courses, and it took me a lot longer to figure out what he was talking about than I'd like to admit to. Mashnut to a lesser degree, but they both had fresher eyes to disc golf than I did. I was old-school "Benches? We don't need no stinkin' benches!" After a bit I started to realize that yes, being able to find your way around the course is a good thing so maybe lack of tee signs should matter. :p

Tallpaul could write my reviews for me, though.

As an aside, I'm got a nastygram from a course designer because I blasted his course for poor flow/no tee signs. He told me to use UDisc to find my way around. This to me is unacceptable; I will cling to the old-school rules that if I can't show up and find my way around the course without a map or a guide, that is a problem.

Sure, Udisc would probably work, but is a course without signs as good as one with them? How much better is open to debate, but if with all other things being equal...
 
The only exception I find acceptable is a truly private course that's of the "need prior approval to play there," ilk, where you're likely to be guided by the owner, or paired up with someone who knows their way around.

There are quite a few courses, that are technically private, but essentially open to the public (i.e. commercial entities like DG on a bolf course, or similar P2P venues). You shouldn't need a guide to navigate those. If it's at all tricky, they should provide a map on the score card, and sufficient signage to assist navigation.
 

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