[Innova] speed 12 wraith?

[fishmich]

picked up a used star wraith a while ago that seemed a little different from most wraiths ive seen. i bought it because it was very flat and i wanted to see how it flew compared to my other wraiths. i recently noticed on the stamp that its marked as a speed 12 rather than 11. is it a mistamp or is it marked that way for a reason? it seems a bit more over stable than my other wraiths. not sure if its due to the lack of dome or because im not getting it up to speed.

 

[scarwig]

I've got a bubblegum pink star wraith EXACTLY like you described. I have never seen star plastic this flat ever. It's the most overstable wraith i've ever thrown. Now that it's a little more beaten in it flies somewhat closer to what a wraith should fly like. When it was new it was almost unthrowable.

 

[kinfolkfan]

I like the sounds of this disc. But have never seen one myself.

 

[tbird888]

Can you post some pics? Profile and stamp if possible.

 

[AirMcNair]

On the PDGA website Dave was asked about this as well. He stated that it was a mis print. The Wraith is an 11. He didn't answer about the pancake flatness of it. All of the new Wraiths I have are like that as well. Even the two CFR star ones I got.

 

[djjeremiahj]

just for clarification...
the speed of the disc has ZERO to do with how fast it flies... it has to do the minimum speed required to get it to fly correctly.

flat tops tend to make discs overstable. now you've beat it in (ie making it less stable") it should be closer to a normal wraith.

If you like how your Flat Top Wraith throws, then you should plug into a Destroyer almost perfectly.

 

[scarwig]

I own pro and star destroyers and this flew (when new) nothing like them.

The profile pic does it no justice. that picture wouldn't look any different even if I cut the flight plate off and there was just a rim.

 

[bboykin]

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If you like how your Flat Top Wraith throws, then you should plug into a Destroyer almost perfectly.

I agree. I've used Wraiths (CFR and Pro) since they came out and love them. I tried Destroyers on for size this summer and they've pretty much replaced the Wraiths. They feel a lot alike. Killer disc.

 

[NateDiscFlip]

Wraiths are always a solid balanced drive capable of massive bombs. Sounds like this mold could be great in the wind.

 

[fishmich]

here are a couple shots of mine. the side by side pic is two wraiths of the same weight. almost looks like a different mold entirely.

 

[cbeckett22]

The one with the 12/5/-1/3 looks really beefy! It's definitely not the same disc as the one next to it.

 

[sirflicksalot]

it is like a FH dream

 

[DiscJunkie]

FT has a higher PLH.

 

[cfair]

So now we have Speed 12 wraiths to the list of specific desirable kinds of discs...

I'd like to see what it looks like next to a teerex, xcal, destroyer and max just to get a gauge for what mold it really is.

 

[NateDiscFlip]

Thats funny! That pic reminds me of the difference between a regular valk and a frankenvalk. I love the added stability, especially for precision or wind situations.

I am guessing the wraith is more str8 and precise to throw, as is my valk. Also, it looks like the thickness of a teerex, but it is definitely not a teerex, but an overstable wraith.

good to know!:thmbup:

 

[fishmich]

ive compared it to my xcal and destroyers and they are very different. this disc just seems like its got its own thing goin on. i dont have any teerex or maxs to compare it to.

 

[Star Shark]

The speed 12 thing was a misprint which was made at the east coast plant (if you notice, east coast discs have the flight ratings boxed in and the west coast stamped ones have slashes between each number). It's not a different disc, it just molded up odd there. This has happened with many molds from every manufacturer.

 

[cali]

Interesting. I will have to check these out at the shop tomorrow.

 

[smarkquart]

This all explains a lot. I have a nice dyed Star Wraith that felt good in the hand but when I got it out to the course it was the most overstable Wraith I had ever thrown. It reminded me so much of a Predator, so I put it in the "maybe I will throw it someday" bin in the garage.

 

[AirMcNair]

The speed 12 thing was a misprint which was made at the east coast plant (if you notice, east coast discs have the flight ratings boxed in and the west coast stamped ones have slashes between each number). It's not a different disc, it just molded up odd there. This has happened with many molds from every manufacturer.

Wow I said basically the same thing at the beginning. Mis Print. But people didn't listen.