PMantle
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Pretty much, yeah.
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[Axiom] Axiom Discs Clash
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Don't this mold getting a lot of love from even the GYRO guys. I picked one up today with some left over script because it looked sick black core purple rim. I am currently throwing a lot of mvp and axiom stuff. will see how it flies for me.
ThomasOrion
* Ace Member *
I picked up a Clash because I recently started throwing the Proxy, Envy, Wrath, and Defy....all those discs have secured their spots in my bag. I use a Teebird for my stable fairway disc so I wanted to try the Clash. I wasn't a big fan. It's #'s are more like 6/4/-1/2 It does have immediate turn (on a flat throw) but does hook back, its like a fairwy version of a valkyrie. It's a nice disc, and with more work I could play it better, but just not even close to the trust I have with a Teebird and or a TL/FD.
I don't mind the feel of it, it's somewhat blunted. But I was not as impressed as I was with the other discs I bagged. Again, I think it's a unique disc as it has high speed turn but still has decent low speed fade, but I prefer something else usually.. this would be a good disc in the wood tho for line-shaping. I think thats what they were going for here was a line shaping fairway disc....its not bad at all. But i don't bag it usually unless I want to mix it up for fun
I don't mind the feel of it, it's somewhat blunted. But I was not as impressed as I was with the other discs I bagged. Again, I think it's a unique disc as it has high speed turn but still has decent low speed fade, but I prefer something else usually.. this would be a good disc in the wood tho for line-shaping. I think thats what they were going for here was a line shaping fairway disc....its not bad at all. But i don't bag it usually unless I want to mix it up for fun
Crave is the TB from MVP.
Servo =eagle
Clash never did much 4 me.
Servo =eagle
Clash never did much 4 me.
finally got to throw my n clash. Threw it side by side with a new p crave. for me the clash had a bit more turn then the crave and had more fade then the crave. The clash didn't do anything for me on BH throw and I would more then likely chose the crave over the clash on 8 out of 10 throws. However I was getting some great line with the clash with my FH and could see the 2 splitting throws there.
ZAMson
^Has PhD in Disc-Artistry
that's how it's advertised, it's got more work in both ends of stability than Crave. currently I don't bag a Crave at all (Relay instead), I use Clash for all stable fairway stuff... it's like a mini SOLF for me. seems to me like it'd be Eagle-X ish but I only ever jived with a super beat EX or an EL, whereas Clash really suited me.
Maclor
Newbie
Got a ~157g proton Clash for my wife as this is said to have more turn than a Crave with the fade of a overstable disc. She loves it! She gets a fair amount of turn and a controlled strong fade. She can hit the S she wants and carve through trees. She primarily uses a Crave for normal driving duties but also has the Clash, Signal, and Shock in her bag with a 155g Neutron Photon picking up headwind duties.
Hmm, good question. I've only thrown a Clash in Neutron but it flies similarly to a Star Eagle X. I'd guess that a Clash will go farther than those beefier Champ Eagles that don't glide as well but a S.EX and Clash would be close. I think the Eagle would go farther for most people but if you can activate the Gyro the difference would be negligible.
crd 81
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Good to know about Star and Neutron comparison.
More specifically, I can throw a slightly seasoned Star EX around 350-360(sometimes further) on a slight hyzer with it turning and fading, where will a Neutron Clash be with the same shot? Same? Shorter?
If the Clash is harder to get up to speed than Eagle due to the Clash's overmold, then I may be better off sticking with the EX. Also, if the Clash has less glide than an EX in similar plastics, then I will stick with the EX.
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I familiarized myself with my Clash today and threw it alongside some various Eagles. In your hypothetical the Clash (if it's like mine) will be a little shorter and a little more left of the seasoned Eagle. The biggest difference is that the Clash is more of a control driver that likes to hold a hyzer line more than most Eagles. It doesn't glide as well but if you like to throw everything hard it's a more predictable line shaper b/c it doesn't turn unpredictably as much as a beat EX does on an anny line (i.e. easier to throw tight flex shots with).
So if you want something easier to range at the expense of a little bit of D or glide the Clash might trip your trigger. Think of it as a more boring, uptight Eagle X. I don't love it in a FH grip but it's not too bad.
brutalbrutus
* Ace Member *
My only experience with the Clash was a sparkle I bought on release day. It wasn't what I was expecting, probly because it had that goofy late flip/turn that sparkle sometimes has. I've had several sparkle discs like this. A Wave, the clash, crave and a Tesla. The only sparkle I can recall having that flies pretty true to the chart, is the resistor I currently have. But even it had just a bit less of a dump fade than I remember my flat neutron did when it was new. Don't really remember looking for plh differences but most of them had a bit of a rounded shoulder compared to the flatter neutrons.
