Current Bag Setup: please critique

[Scouser17]

I've been play for 4 years but have been playing consistently the last 2. I'm predominately RHBH thrower, flick sometimes, and OH if forced. Live in Oklahoma so average wind is 12-15 mph when I play so i throw mostly heavier weights even though I don't drive extremely far.

Putters: >250 ft
Soft APX 176g: outside circle puts. flick hyzer flip drives up to 200 ft.
Champ Rhyno 175g: flick up shots, RHBH drives <210 ft. windy putter.
2X ION 172 and 174g: in the circle putter, RHBH drives up to 250 ft.

Mids: 230-310 ft
Esp Meteor 176g: hyzer flip/annys, up to 300 ft. power down/wooded shots.
ESP Buzzz 175g: understable/straight shot 250-310 ft.
Crystal Buzz 176g: stable/hyzer shots. 270-300 ft.
2X Z hornet (OS and stable) 176g: hyzer shots up to 275ft. flick drives up to 230 ft.
Z drone 179g: spike approaches, windy day mid. left out of bag if calm.

Fairways: 275-340ft
Z stalker 168g (beat 5/10): annys/hyzer flip straight shots. 260-300 ft.
Star Eagle 168g: Anny/S shots 300-330 ft. flick drives 240-270 ft. Straight fairway 300-320 ft if no wind.
Champ Eagle 175g: straight shots/hyzers. 300-340ft.

Distance Drivers:330 ft-380ft
Wahoo: only keep in bag for water shots. 300-320 ft. inconsistent flight for me.
2X Z predator 172g and 176g(both new):utility discs. windy days/spikes. hyzer 300-330ft. 350ft S shots. OH disc up to 250ft.
Avenger SS 168g: anhyzer shots 300-320 ft. just started rollers up to 300ft, 350 ft if lucky.
GL Bolt 174g: hyzer flip drives. Big S shots 340ft-380 ft consistent. 400-420 max.
GL havoc 174g (domey): OS/hyzer shots 340-380ft. 410ft max.
Opto havoc 172g (flat/new): stable/straight max D driver. hyzer and hyzer flip straight shots. 380 ft consistent. 410 ft max.
GL havoc 174g (seasoned 5/10): understable havoc. annys and hyzer turnovers. 340-380ft.

I'm happy with my selection of putters and midranges but if you see any inconsistencies or overkill let me know. I'm really looking for advice on fairways and distance drivers:
1) I'm an eagle guy and the teebird never felt good in my hand. Any similar discs to eagle i should look at from other manufacturers? I ordered a volt but havnt received it yet.
2) my Z stalker is getting to beat up to still be controllable but I don't want to have to season another stalker for my controll annys. Any other good understable fairways out of the box? Again recently ordered an amp to try and fill this need.
3) After watching a lot of videos on youtube and reading others advice should i take my three havocs out of the bag and move down to a lower speed driver till I get more snap/distance with slower speeds? I throw the eagle 320-340 consistently on open tee flat shots and consistenlty get the havoc 380 ft. Any suggestions?
4) I bought a used avenger ss for annys but it doesn't feel good in my hand? looking for something to replace it.
5) Looking for discs to try and improve my flick with. the predator is to overstable and immediately goes right for me. My lightweight 168g eagle has been my best bet so far
5) Discs I'm going to try in near future: 174g volt, 174g amp, 170g vibram lace. If you think there any other discs i should try based on my bag let me know
I'd appreciate any advice. thanks!

 

[leftsidedomination]

a good anny fairway is the stratus instead of a seasoned stalker

the glide could take the place of the avenger ss

stick with either the eagle or a stalker for flick shots, I like to throw a beast for flick shots(or a nuke ss)

I say stick with slower plastic for now.


I've only played for a year now. I finally learned to keep everything slow on the approach. Now as I throw slower plastic, it will only pay off later when I throw the faster stuff. Improving on slower plastic distance, see huge improvements in everything by spring.

 

[Scouser17]

Thanks for the advice i might have to try out the stratus. I'm also thinking about ordering a 167g pro wraith and 171 g star wraith to replace my havocs till I can throw over 400 ft consistent

 

[Scouser17]

Updated Bag

Putters:
APX (176) X2: in the circle puts, jump puts, 200 ft drive,
IONs eclipse (172,174): stable drives <250ft

Midranges
Buzz Elite X (170, 174): straight mid 250-300
Hornet Z (172): os mid, flick shots, 250-300
Drone Z (180): super os, <200 ft

Fairways
Eagle X star (168, 172, 175): 168 is dead straight/anny, 172 overstable, 175 flippy
Eagle X champ (175): overstable eagle
Predator Z (176): overstable 280-320ft, flick up to 200-250

Drivers
S line PD (168 and 171): waiting in mail supposed to get tomorrow

Any suggestions on other distance drivers I should try????? I've been pushing my stable 172g star eagle and 175 champ eagle 350-360 consistently on open tee shots.
My Ions don't seem to forehand very well, i had a champ rhyno but don't like the flight path as much on flick drives. How does a zone compare to rhyno is it pretty much the exact same or would it be worth trying?

 

[Scouser17]

Update

Vitals:
Years playing/experience: 4 years, 2 serious
Right/left-handed/ambidextrous: right-handed
Throwing Style: RHBH, some FH
Golf Distance (avg/max*) for putter/mid/driver: Ion: 200/250'; Core: 280/320'; Eagle 320/370

* Max distance is the greatest distance you can throw your top 2-3 drivers with any regularity


Optional:
Age: 23
Sex: M
Injuries/handicaps?: Bad ankle
Other sport proficiencies?: Soccer, skateboarding
Additional Information:
What do you like/dislike about your current bag?: Just stripped my bag down to the bare minimum
Specific areas of desired feedback: Any suggestions?
Immediate and long-term goals: Trying to learn proper form and push hornet to 350 ft and eagle to 400 ft


Putters: >250 ft
3X Soft APX 176g: outside circle puts. flick hyzer flip drives up to 200 ft.
2X soft ION 172 and 174g: in the circle putter, RHBH drives up to 250 ft.
1X ION 168 medium proton: stable drives

Mids: 230-310 ft
Core, opto 176 g, straight drives
Esp Hornet 171g, stable/straight mid
Z hornet (OS) 176g: hyzer shots up to 275ft. flick drives up to 230 ft.

Fairways: 275-340ft

Star Eagle 168g: Anny/S shots 300-330 ft. flick drives 240-270 ft. Straight fairway 300-320 ft if no wind.
Star Eagle 172g: fresh/stable. workhorse.
Champ Eagle 175g: straight shots/hyzers. 320-360ft. 380 max



Distance Drivers:330 ft-380ft

Z predator 172g ( newish):utility discs. windy days/spikes. hyzer 300-330ft. 350ft S shots. OH disc up to 250ft.
Flx predator 169g (squeaky clean): sidearm and os shots
S-pd 168 and 172g (brand new): awesome stable shots with hard fade at end. replaced my havocs


Dropped:
Avenger SS 168g: anhyzer shots 300-320 ft. just started rollers up to 300ft, 350 ft if lucky.
GL Bolt 174g: hyzer flip drives. Big S shots 340ft-380 ft consistent. 400-420 max.
GL havoc 174g (domey): OS/hyzer shots 340-380ft. 410ft max.
Opto havoc 172g (flat/new): stable/straight max D driver. hyzer and hyzer flip straight shots. 380 ft consistent. 410 ft max.
GL havoc 174g (seasoned 5/10): understable havoc. annys and hyzer turnovers. 340-380ft.
Wahoo: only keep in bag for water shots. 300-320 ft. inconsistent flight for me.
Z drone 179g: spike approaches, windy day mid. left out of bag if calm.
Esp Meteor 176g: hyzer flip/annys, up to 300 ft. power down/wooded shots.
ESP Buzzz 175g: understable/straight shot 250-310 ft.
Crystal Buzz 176g: stable/hyzer shots. 270-300 ft.
Champ Rhyno 175g: flick up shots, RHBH drives <210 ft. windy putter.

 

[bholy08]

New bag and distances look sharp...but I would still have the Bolt I love mine for those long hyzer flips and I feel like that is a hole in your current set-up.

 

[Scouser17]

New bag and distances look sharp...but I would still have the Bolt I love mine for those long hyzer flips and I feel like that is a hole in your current set-up.

Yeah I do need an understabe driver huh. my 168g eagle is holding the anny role right now. my bolts just always seem to turn and burn even when i put them on hard hyzers.....technique problem probably on my part

 

[bholy08]

hmmm, I use a beat Eagle L for shorter annys as well. Maybe look into a Road Runner.

 

[Scouser17]

roardunner

hmmm, I use a beat Eagle L for shorter annys as well. Maybe look into a Road Runner.

Yeah i just traded for some sidewinders. I used to throw them when i first started and they were pretty awesome anhyzers and sidearm.

 

[Scouser17]

Update

Vitals:
Years playing/experience: 4 years, 2 serious
Right/left-handed/ambidextrous: right-handed
Throwing Style: RHBH, some FH
Golf Distance (avg/max*) for putter/mid/driver: Ion: 200/250'; Core: 280/320'; Eagle 320/370

* Max distance is the greatest distance you can throw your top 2-3 drivers with any regularity


Optional:
Age: 23
Sex: M
Injuries/handicaps?: Bad ankle
Other sport proficiencies?: Soccer, skateboarding
Additional Information:
What do you like/dislike about your current bag?: Just stripped my bag down to the bare minimum
Specific areas of desired feedback: Any suggestions?
Immediate and long-term goals: Trying to learn proper form and push hornet to 350 ft and eagle to 400 ft


Putters: >250 ft
3X Soft APX 176g: outside circle puts. flick hyzer flip drives up to 200 ft.
Sinus AP 171g: overstable putter, flick appraoches, super flat! love this disc. 200ft and under drives. plan on adding another one.

Mids: 230-280 ft
Fuse, opto, 174g, understable mid, awesome glide
Core, opto 176 g, straight drives
Core,GL, 180g, more stable than opto
Z hornet (OS) 176g: hyzer shots up to 275ft. flick drives up to 230 ft.

Fairways: 275-350ft
Star Eagle 168g: Anny/S shots 300-330 ft. flick drives 240-270 ft. Straight fairway 300-320 ft if no wind.
Star Eagle 172g: fresh/stable. workhorse


Distance Drivers:350 ft-390ft
Z predator 172g ( newish):utility discs. windy days/spikes. hyzer 300-330ft. 350ft S shots. OH disc up to 200ft.
Star Sidewinders (170g, 172g, 175g), anny shots up to 350ft. New sidearm disc for my noodle-sidearm for up to 250ish ft. tailwind shots
S-pd 168 and 172g (brand new): awesome stable shots with hard fade at end. replaced my havocs, avg drives 370
P-pd 175g, good flex shots. avg drive 370

Dropped:
2X soft ION 172 and 174g: in the circle putter, RHBH drives up to 250 ft.
1X ION 168 medium proton: stable drives
Esp Hornet 171g, stable/straight mid (only needed one hornet in bag)
Champ Eagle 175g: straight shots/hyzers. 320-360ft. 380 max
Flx predator 169g (squeaky clean): sidearm and os shots (only needed one pred in bag)

Let me know what yall think. I might do an in the bag video soon too!

 

[Scouser17]

Update

Vitals:
Years playing/experience: 4 years, 2 serious
Right/left-handed/ambidextrous: right-handed
Throwing Style: RHBH, some FH
Golf Distance (avg/max*) for putter/mid/driver: Sinus: 200/250'; Buzz/Core: 280/320'; Eagle 350/370, Pd 360/400

* Max distance is the greatest distance you can throw your top 2-3 drivers with any regularity


Optional:
Age: 23
Sex: M
Injuries/handicaps?: Bad ankle
Other sport proficiencies?: Soccer, skateboarding
Additional Information:
What do you like/dislike about your current bag?: Just stripped my bag down to the bare minimum
Specific areas of desired feedback: Any suggestions?
Immediate and long-term goals: Trying to learn proper form and push hornet to 350 ft and eagle to 400 ft


Putters: >230ft
2X Soft APX 176g: insidee circle puts. flick approaches that need to be straight. anything under 200 ft throwing an apx.
Sinus AP 171g X2: overstable putter, flick appraoches that fade or S, super stable.

Mids: 230-280 ft
Fuse, opto, 174g, understable mid, awesome glide, Anny with no return.
What Should replace the core???/
Z hornet (OS) 176g: hyzer shots up to 275ft. flick drives up to 230 ft.


Fairways: 300-370ft
Star Eagle-L 168g: Anny/S shots 300-370 ft. No wind eagle
Star Eagle-X 172g: fresh/stable. windy eagle, fades out better than the L on S shots.


Distance Drivers:350 ft-390ft
Z predator 172g ( newish):utility discs. windy days/spikes. hyzer 300-330ft. 350ft S shots. OH disc up to 200ft.
FlX Predator 176g (new)--backup predator used for grip when I'm not feeling confident with Z.
Star Sidewinders (167g), anny shots up to 350ft. Tailwind shots but still always seem to turn and burn.
S-pd 168 and 172g (brand new): awesome stable shots with hard fade at end. replaced my havocs, avg drives 370
P-pd 175g, good flex shots. avg drive 370

Dropped:

Dropped 170, 172, and 175g Star SW
Core, opto 176 g, straight drives
Core,GL, 180g, more stable than opto

Ok so the last two weeks or so I've been throwing the core religously and it always seems to turn and never fade back out. I'm either going to switch back to the buzz, or try something else? Should I try a lycan, mako, or warship? I just want a mid i can power up on without worrying about it turning over like the core. My buzzes never seemed to flip on me but they always tended to fade a little to much..... Suggestions greatly appreciated!

I also dropped from 3 SW to 1 SW b/c i hardly ever throw em and I just got trigger happy stocking up on SW b/c i used to love how they flew when i first started. I really only use them for annys that dont fade that need to be longer the the eagle-L. I'm also considering dropped the p-line pd because any shot I want to flex I'd just throw one of my eagles so I've got an extra slot in the bag.... what speed 9-11 driver should I try next?

 

[Scouser17]

Update for road trip from OKC to Orlando

Vitals:
Years playing/experience: 4 years, 2 serious
Right/left-handed/ambidextrous: right-handed
Throwing Style: RHBH, some FH
Golf Distance (avg/max*) for putter/mid/driver: Sinus: 200/250'; Buzz: 280/320'; Eagle 320/370, Pd 360/400

* Max distance is the greatest distance you can throw your top 2-3 drivers with any regularity


Optional:
Age: 23
Sex: M
Injuries/handicaps?: Bad ankle
Other sport proficiencies?: Soccer, skateboarding
Additional Information:
What do you like/dislike about your current bag?: Just stripped my bag down to the bare minimum
Specific areas of desired feedback: Any suggestions?
Immediate and long-term goals: Trying to learn proper form and push hornet to 350 ft and eagle to 400 ft


Putters: >210ft
2X Soft APX 176g: inside circle puts. flick approaches that need to be straight. anything under 200 ft that doesnt require hyzer/not windy throwing an apx.
Sinus AP 171g X2: overstable putter, flick appraoches that fade or S, super stable. Windy putter.

Mids: 230-280 ft
Fuse, opto, 174g, understable mid, awesome glide, Anny with no return. Really love this disc has made me love short anny shots again
Crystal Buzz, 177g, straght mid with nice fade. Got my 3rd ace with this disc two days ago
ESP hornet (OS) 171g: hyzer shots up to 275ft. flick approaches if i'm not feeling the sinus.


Fairways: 300-370ft
Star Eagle-L 168g: Anny/S shots 300-370 ft. No wind eagle
Star Eagle-X 172g: fresh/stable. windy eagle, fades out better than the L on S shots.

Distance Drivers:350 ft-390ft
Z predator 172g ( newish):utility discs. windy days/spikes. hyzer 300-350ft. OH disc up to 200ft (obviously my OH sucks).
FlX Predator 176g (new)--backup predator used for grip when I'm not feeling confident with Z.
S-pd 168 and 172g (brand new): awesome stable shots with hard fade at end. Average drives 360 to 380 ft.
Gold line Saint 168g. trade on dcgr can't wait to throw it.
Opto line Saint 172g. trade on dcgr.
TI nuke: another trade on dcgr. I'd like to have one warp speed driver to fool around with while I'm working on my saints/pd's to reach 400ft consistently. think the nuke will be a good warp speed driver to work up to eventually.

Dropped:
Star Sidewinders (167g), anny shots up to 350ft. Tailwind shots but still always seem to turn and burn. traded for a bunch of sidewinders and after two weeks of playing with them I realized they are too understable for me and turn n' burn or roll. my 168 eagle L fills all the distance anny shots up to 350 ft I need.
P-pd 175g, good flex shots. avg drive 370 Found myself never throwing this disc and if i wanted little more give/turn for a shot my eagle-x flexes better.

My brother and I are headed on a road trip from Oklahoma City to dallas all the way to orlando, florida so plan on playing some sweet courses on the way. this is the bag I will be working with