hugheshilton
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Anyone throw a 15th anniversary Destroyer yet?
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[Innova] DESTROYER destroyers unite!!
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a few times so far. nice feeling plastic & stable. i like it a lot.
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hugheshilton
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I picked up 3: a red, a pink (looks just like yours), and a blue. Comparing them side by side, the pink has the highest, most concave wing so I expect that's the most overstable. The blue is in the middle, and the red looks like a bomber. I might throw the red. I'm partial to red drivers and since I'm old now the pink would probably be a meat hook for me for quite a long time lol.
RightAJ
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Anyone pick up some of the new run Echo Stars? https://proshop.innovadiscs.com/echo-star-destroyer/
Pricier than regular star!
gammaxgoblin
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https://proshop.innovadiscs.com/cliffdiver-collab-edition/
These "test-run" destroyers are pretty OS...remind me of the beefiest McBeth runs.
These "test-run" destroyers are pretty OS...remind me of the beefiest McBeth runs.
the1discChallenge
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Do any of you throw Destroyers and Wraiths in the bag? If so, hope do you use them differently?
I threw both for a little while.
Threw Wraiths for straighter, control distance that I didn't want a big finish or turnover distance lines.
Destroyers for max D, FH, skips, flexs, etc.
Dropped the Wraith because I could do similar things with beat PDs and keep the mold count lower
Threw Wraiths for straighter, control distance that I didn't want a big finish or turnover distance lines.
Destroyers for max D, FH, skips, flexs, etc.
Dropped the Wraith because I could do similar things with beat PDs and keep the mold count lower
gammaxgoblin
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Wraith is my main go to driver for getting as much distance as I can WITH as much control as I can.
Rather OS Destroyer is bagged for when I need to throw a disc very hard and fast and get left a lot or skip left a lot. When I catch this OS Des right I can get maybe 200' of flat flight before It fades hard. IF I throw if with any hyzer, its fading from the start it seems. Twas a test run...its like a speed 12 firebird lol
RightAJ
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Yes and I think they complement each other very well, actually. I would say I'm forehand dominant (or at least I get more distance forehand) so they do different things for me.
Wraiths for most backhand shots and some controlled forehands that I need to have very little fade. Most shots in the 300-350' range.
Destroyers for some backhands (need to finish left, jump in stability over my Wraiths) and basically every forehand shot that I need a disc longer than a Firebird. Power hyzers, pure distance, long turnovers--all various stability Destroyers for me. 325' to max (about 425').
Twmccoy
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It seems to depend more on the run than the weight. Wysocki Raptor Destroyers were the first ones I saw that consistently had blizzard rims. Some of the newer Sockibot ones do too.
I saw some brand new Destroyers at Dick's a couple weeks ago (no signature), and they looked fine. No blizzard rims.
Blizzard rim Destroyers don't necessarily fly badly, but I don't like them. They have a cheap look/feel to them.
hugheshilton
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I second this, and will add that it's been happening since forever. I had some old S/DS marked F2's back in the day with Blizzard rims (before Blizzard even existed). And those were super beefy, so it doesn't necessarily mean they will be flippy either.
I started notice them on Star Shryke rims a few years ago and have shied away from buying them sight unseen. Even got a Leopard3 earlier this year that had the sheening. Looks like it would be low durability.
Twmccoy
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Most of the blizzardy rim Destroyers I've thrown have been on the flippy side.
I did try a good McBeth 150g Destroyer once that had a blizzard rim. The disc surprised me with how overstable it was. Despite being really light it withstood full power rips easily.
I've never been a fan of blizzard plastic. Blizzard Bosses and Katanas just aren't worth the trouble.
Twmccoy
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IDK what Innova's doing with Shrykes lately, but I've been seeing a lot of lousy ones. G* and regular star. They seem super flat, cheap, and blizzardy. They're also really understable.
When the Shryke first came out I didn't see any that looked blizzardy.
Innova needs to keep the blizzard stuff out of their normal discs.
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Certainly there have been some Destroyer runs the past couple years that were pretty cheap feeling but the Halo and Swirly star ones seem to be pretty good overall (at/near max weight). I wonder if it has anything to do with Innova's Halo process requiring changes to the molds or injection molding machine configuration.
Could also see some of the supply chain issues/increased costs forcing Innova to cheapen the Star plastic blends or be more tolerant of whatever plastic pellets they could source the last couple years.
Mostly I think the blizzard-like silver streaks/plastic splay is coming from the plastic pellets being rushed through and not properly de-humidified or the machines not being calibrated to meet the crazy demand. Maybe with demand being met they will slow down production a bit to increase quality and attempt to correct the molding issues. Probably some back stock/blanks remaining for the current batches so it may be a bit before we see any improvement.
I don't see Destroyers flying off the shelves as much as in the past (McBeth signature era) now that there are a lot of similar or more AM friendly molds from other manufacturers with greater consistency.
Innova did just release a new stock art for the Star Destroyer https://discgolfunited.com/2023-star-destroyer.html
Could also see some of the supply chain issues/increased costs forcing Innova to cheapen the Star plastic blends or be more tolerant of whatever plastic pellets they could source the last couple years.
Mostly I think the blizzard-like silver streaks/plastic splay is coming from the plastic pellets being rushed through and not properly de-humidified or the machines not being calibrated to meet the crazy demand. Maybe with demand being met they will slow down production a bit to increase quality and attempt to correct the molding issues. Probably some back stock/blanks remaining for the current batches so it may be a bit before we see any improvement.
I don't see Destroyers flying off the shelves as much as in the past (McBeth signature era) now that there are a lot of similar or more AM friendly molds from other manufacturers with greater consistency.
Innova did just release a new stock art for the Star Destroyer https://discgolfunited.com/2023-star-destroyer.html
