steve a
* Ace Member *
Yes, different mold than the 1.6
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[Question] EXP1
- Thread starter Rocaholic74
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Yes, different mold than the 1.6
TheBMeistor
Eagle Member
So were these an Eagle L wing then? Curious how they fly anyways. Also wondering if any were run lighter than max weight.
Moonshine
Double Eagle Member
Max weight and the L wing. They will hold a line, but finish very overstable.
I was innitailly bummed when i found out these qs are L mold, but they are wonderful! Fly really similar to 1.6/1.7 exp1s. Maybe a little less HSS, but they fly like a dream.
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would love to see a X mold come out for a more overstable option though(so i can kick out the firebird), and it's Innova's fault, they were told to run the x mold and apparently they don't understand what that means.
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would love to see a X mold come out for a more overstable option though(so i can kick out the firebird), and it's Innova's fault, they were told to run the x mold and apparently they don't understand what that means.
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august dupree
Double Eagle Member
I just read this thread and my head 'sploded.
Moonshine
Double Eagle Member
Lol, do tell.
august dupree
Double Eagle Member
I'm not sure if I can. It's like wandering up upon the Rosetta Stone and trying to decipher the link between this world and another galaxy far far away. A place where the intelligent beings spoke in a code that was similar to our own tongue but was clearly more of a secret order than our own modern day society.
It also conjures up distant memories of velvet die bags and monster manuals.
It also conjures up distant memories of velvet die bags and monster manuals.
I sent an email to Innova East and West and also to Millennium explaining the bottom piece being incorrect. It will be interesting to see if they reply. I bag the CE runs of this disc, so it would be nice to have a newer run that I could use in cold weather or when losing a disc could be a possibility. The EXP1 would fill a spot that is currently missing in the Millennium lineup.
Moonshine
Double Eagle Member
Please share what they say 
My email to Innova explained that the wing should be curved or concave and not flat. This was their response.
The Millennium EXP1 is only produced in the "L" configuration. This includes the original CE runs. The Millennium EXP1 in the X configuration would technically be the same as the INNOVA Banshee. If you are looking for a more stable EXP1, try the INNOVA Banshee in Champion plastic.
So I sent them another email trying to explain the original mold does not have a flat wing. It would be cool if someone could take a picture of an older run and the new run to compare and send it to Innova.
The Millennium EXP1 is only produced in the "L" configuration. This includes the original CE runs. The Millennium EXP1 in the X configuration would technically be the same as the INNOVA Banshee. If you are looking for a more stable EXP1, try the INNOVA Banshee in Champion plastic.
So I sent them another email trying to explain the original mold does not have a flat wing. It would be cool if someone could take a picture of an older run and the new run to compare and send it to Innova.
Questatement
Double Eagle Member
I have an unthrown 1.7 I'll post up by morning.
Questatement
Double Eagle Member
This was the second response from Innova.
To be clear, the original CE EXP1 was not produced in an X configuration. There is no doubt that the original run of CE EXP1 were very stable flyers, but it is not from an X wing. Any differences from different runs and plastics of EXP1s are simply differences in runs and materials and not from different mold configurations.
If we were to produce the EXP1 in the X configuration, it would no longer be an EXP1, but rather an INNOVA Banshee as the X or L configuration is the ONLY difference between these two discs. The Banshee uses X, the EXP1 uses L.
Hope this clears things up for you.
INNOVA Champion Discs, Inc.
To be clear, the original CE EXP1 was not produced in an X configuration. There is no doubt that the original run of CE EXP1 were very stable flyers, but it is not from an X wing. Any differences from different runs and plastics of EXP1s are simply differences in runs and materials and not from different mold configurations.
If we were to produce the EXP1 in the X configuration, it would no longer be an EXP1, but rather an INNOVA Banshee as the X or L configuration is the ONLY difference between these two discs. The Banshee uses X, the EXP1 uses L.
Hope this clears things up for you.
INNOVA Champion Discs, Inc.
Questatement
Double Eagle Member
"L" makes sense if it simply means 'longer' or 'less' stable but I'm curious where the wing designation "X" came from?
Questatement
Double Eagle Member
I meant where did "X" some from? Why didn't they call it "T" for 'traditional' or "O" for "original"?
I am really liking this Q EXP1-L already have two aces on it!
I'll try to do this today.
I'll try to do this today.
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I just bought a standard plastic Exp1 and really like it. The wing seems to fall in between an Eagle-X an Eagle-L. Mine is from an older run (waxy feeling pro plastic) so maybe the L mold has somehow gotten straighter over the years. Either way, it is a great disc. It has the straight line glide of a teebird with the fade of an Eagle X.
Moonshine
Double Eagle Member
I have one like this. It absolutely bombs but is getting beat in pretty fast.
