I have really started to like my Hydra. For me, the floating is a bonus. I like to drive with it because it's thick, straight, and has a nice subtle flex to it. ...very subtle. Plus, I can drive mine about 200ft. But it does come in handy for those water shots that affect your confidence. Now I think it was either Billnchristy or Midnight, that talked to me about a Fat Max tape measure. I've pulled a few discs out of the water with it. (I live in SC, we have gators. I'm NOT going in the water here!) I highly recommend one for the bag, I would also recommend giving a Hydra a chance.