[Innova] How overstable is a FAF 2021 Sexton Firebird?

[Moose33]

I was ready to write a whole dissertation about FAF Firebirds, how they are the only real Firebirds and Sextons are just overpriced inferior discs, but short answer; Yeah, domey ones aren't usually as OS.

Also, there hasn't been an FAF run since 2017(and only one),so all the new players who think they have one probably don't.

 

[GripEnemy]

I might be wrong but thats what ive read a lot on this site.

Not trying to blast you but he's right. F#2 stands for **** and it was a slang term well before it became popularized.

 

[Monkeypaws]

If you are looking for a FAF Sexton Firebird, you are missing the point of the Sexton Firebird. They are meant to be less OS than a FAF Firebird, hence more useful for a wide variety of shots. Reliable finish for 250-350 foot shots, esp. forehands.

That's what a Sexton Firebird is all about Charlie Brown.

 

[oldmandiscer]

I was ready to write a whole dissertation about FAF Firebirds, how they are the only real Firebirds and Sextons are just overpriced inferior discs, but short answer; Yeah, domey ones aren't usually as OS.

Also, there hasn't been an FAF run since 2017(and only one),so all the new players who think they have one probably don't.

I think there are some freaky oddballs out there. It's Innova, it's plastic. Ricky was throwing an Orange gummier "FAF" Firebird earlier in the year where he wanted a stickier finish.

If you can pick through a few hundred discs I'm sure you will find a few oddballs, I know I've received my fair share. (Not just from Innova of course).

Just look at Destroyers over the years, everything under the sun. From concave wings to convex (yes I have two of those). Flat to super domey. Destrulcans. High PLH, Low PLH and everything in between.

 

[Moose33]

I think there are some freaky oddballs out there. It's Innova, it's plastic. Ricky was throwing an Orange gummier "FAF" Firebird earlier in the year where he wanted a stickier finish.

If you can pick through a few hundred discs I'm sure you will find a few oddballs, I know I've received my fair share. (Not just from Innova of course).

Just look at Destroyers over the years, everything under the sun. From concave wings to convex (yes I have two of those). Flat to super domey. Destrulcans. High PLH, Low PLH and everything in between.

To a degree that's true, but Firebirds tend to mold up the same way within runs. More so than other discs produced in similarly large numbers.

I just see a ton of new players being like, "look at my Firebird! It's so flat!" And it's got a ton of shoulder or even some dome.

 

[oldmandiscer]

To a degree that's true, but Firebirds tend to mold up the same way within runs. More so than other discs produced in similarly large numbers.

I just see a ton of new players being like, "look at my Firebird! It's so flat!" And it's got a ton of shoulder or even some dome.

Well sure, newbies might not know what flat is if they have never seen it.

 

[Moose33]

Well sure, newbies might not know what flat is if they have never seen it.

I'm just salty about it and need to back off a bit. People like what they like, and that's cool, I just miss the version I like being available/people understanding what I mean.

First signs of getting old I guess.

 

[jjmiller]

Flattest Firebird I've ever seen is a Star from when I first started, which I think was around 2013-2014. It's like a different disc compared to any other Firebird I've ever thrown- including some Champs that people claimed were "FAF." Also had/have a couple other Star Firebirds around the same age that were/are normal Star Firebirds...

 

[robdeforge]

just get a splice (when they become widely available)

 

[Siriusbomb]

I've never seen a new firebird that wasn't a total meathook, capable of flexing out from the steepest anhyzer. And I don't think they exist.

 

[kevdiv48]

I'm just salty about it and need to back off a bit. People like what they like, and that's cool, I just miss the version I like being available/people understanding what I mean.

First signs of getting old I guess.

I've never seen a new firebird that wasn't a total meathook, capable of flexing out from the steepest anhyzer. And I don't think they exist.

TBH even a domey regular FB is plenty overstable for the fast majority of folks. But the "actual" FAF (flat as f****, not firm and flat:| ) run from 2013ish was something else. My favorite memories of trying to find a use for those were trying to put down FH and rollers and it would flex so quickly that it would land flat instead of on edge.

 

[Three Putt]

I'm just salty about it and need to back off a bit. People like what they like, and that's cool, I just miss the version I like being available/people understanding what I mean.

First signs of getting old I guess.

I did this about 12 years ago with flat top Rocs; 90% of what people call flat top Rocs now are not flat top Rocs. Except they are; the definition changed so now all that stuff IS what people are talking about when they say flat top Roc. So now they are right and I am wrong, even though I'm right. :\

You learn to let it go.

 

[oldmandiscer]

It's like the title of the thread. Does a board flat Sexton really exist. One mans flat could be another mans shallow dome. Lots of flattish discs will still have a little dome, just put it upside down on a counter and see.