So I began the sport throwing forarm...got pre amazing on it. Then as i got more into it I learned backhand as well. I then had a setback because of shoulder surgery. Couldn't throw forarm at all because it hurt and was limited to backhand for 2 years. My shoulder is now good enough though and as I try... I can't figure out how I used to do it! My disc either comes off floppy as hell or digs into the ground.