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I'm done returning discs

For those of you who have not yet experienced a bad handoff, kudos to you. You are the exception, not the rule.
Speaking from my experience, I have lost more discs than most folks will likely ever own. Sad, but true. There are typically 3 different scenarios in which it is possible for me to lose a disc. One: bad ricochet and I am unable to see which direction the disc flew. Happens a lot. Two: I've thrown multiple practice shots & forget to pick one (or more) up. Three: I set a disc on top of my cart, unsecured in any way shape or form, and it simply falls off without me noticing. Yes, it happens. On instances #1 & #3, I will spend up to 5 minutes looking. After that, I usually just don't have the time to keep hunting because very often I am on the time clock and need to get back on the road. This usually isn't a huge issue to me because I generally have a back up to my back up to my back up. (Yes, I buy a lot of plastic, it's a habit, where's the thread for that?). And in those cases of leaving behind a disc, probably in the neighborhood of 200+ discs, I can count on my two hands the number of times I've gotten back a wayward disc.
Then there have been the times I've found other's discs and tried to return their property back to them. Not always a happy ending.
These days, when I find a disc, I first check to make sure it's not just a WAY off course throw from an adjoining hole, it not, then pick it up to see if it is inked. If not, drop it like a hot potato. If it has ink, text with a pick of the disc, and the place where I am stashing it. Easy peasy. Unless, of course, it's a land line phone # (true story).
 
Earlier this week a post popped up on one of the Facebook pages I follow looking for me because someone had a Roc (3p will understand;)) they had found of mine. I bounced it off a tree on hole 3 and into a river in June of 2020. He found it late last year in the river off of hole 9 he thinks, not really near hole 3 (at least a quarter mile, maybe more down stream). I pm'd him through FB to let him know that I really wanted that disc back. Made arrangements to meet (I said I was off work today and would meet him anywhere in SE WI) today, when he handed the 1991 Sanny back to me I said I had something for him. He said he didn't want anything. but that wouldn't fly with me. It was a 1991 Sanny after all. I gave him a Champ Glow Gator with the Glide (awesome DG store in Madison) logo and a $25 Gift Card for Glide as well. He was like that's way to much and I said it may not be enough, it was after all a 1991 Sanny...He said he had been trying to track me down for quite sometime, even he knew that it was a well loved disc. That kind of effort needs to be appreciated and rewarded. I can't vouch for his amount of effort, but I drove a total (and played 27 holes of DG) of 184 miles for that 1991 Sanny!
 
Most people are too nice. Use to text every disc I found a bunch of times. Now you get one. I've been playing forever. Tell people to call/text when they find a disc, but you get one. If I don't hear back from you by the time leagues roll around the following week, you didn't want it, and I don't care.

People that have a reason why they left it, I get it, but you better answer the phone. Otherwise, it's just an excuse to not do everything in your power to get it back.

You want it, but it's dark, bring a friend and a flashlight.

It's in the water and your short, ask your tall friend with waiters. If you don't have a tall friend with waiters, make one.

You're worried about the risky embankment, pay a kid $5 to get it for you.

Got stuck in a tall tree, make sure you have a slingshot or long poker.

Swamp got your disc? Make sure you have pair of crappy shoes in the car for just the occasion.

Lost it in the snow? Put a ribbon on it and bring a small shovel.

On a busy course? Yell at the cards behind you. Tell them what you are doing, and maybe ask if they can help.

Need to get home bc your wife's gonna be pissed that you're late? Start sooner.

A friend was so wasted they can't remember where they threw it? Why are you worried, it's not yours and you didn't force them to drink and throw.

But don't blame someone because you failed.

If you find a disc. Call/Text them. Wait a week. Then throw it. If they see you on the course throwing it, give it back and don't be a dick about it.
 
Most people are too nice. Use to text every disc I found a bunch of times. Now you get one. I've been playing forever. Tell people to call/text when they find a disc, but you get one. If I don't hear back from you by the time leagues roll around the following week, you didn't want it, and I don't care.

People that have a reason why they left it, I get it, but you better answer the phone. Otherwise, it's just an excuse to not do everything in your power to get it back.

You want it, but it's dark, bring a friend and a flashlight.

It's in the water and your short, ask your tall friend with waiters. If you don't have a tall friend with waiters, make one.

You're worried about the risky embankment, pay a kid $5 to get it for you.

Got stuck in a tall tree, make sure you have a slingshot or long poker.

Swamp got your disc? Make sure you have pair of crappy shoes in the car for just the occasion.

Lost it in the snow? Put a ribbon on it and bring a small shovel.

On a busy course? Yell at the cards behind you. Tell them what you are doing, and maybe ask if they can help.

Need to get home bc your wife's gonna be pissed that you're late? Start sooner.

A friend was so wasted they can't remember where they threw it? Why are you worried, it's not yours and you didn't force them to drink and throw.

But don't blame someone because you failed.

If you find a disc. Call/Text them. Wait a week. Then throw it. If they see you on the course throwing it, give it back and don't be a dick about it.

One time I climbed up 4 different trees looking for my Sidewinder that somehow went super high and to the left. I saw it go right into the top of the trees and was expecting it to be on the ground or at least mid-level of one of the trees. After about 35+ minutes of cutting my legs/arms climbing I gave up and soon as I stepped out of the woods and looked up, there was my disc.

Moral of the story is sometimes you just gotta give up and your disc will magically appear out of nowhere right in front of you.. or above you in my case.
 
3 different times over the last year I have gotten a text about a disc of mine that was found. All 3 of these discs were discs that I lost at least 8 years ago. In all 3 cases, I assume that someone found it a long time ago and kept throwing it for years with my name and number on it, then when they finally lost it, the next finder texted me.

All 3 times I thanked the texter and told them they could keep it, although it would have been interesting to see how those discs look and fly now. This last time it was an X-Clone that I must have lost in 2007, at the latest.
 
My 12-year-old son was in love, and really good with, a boutique Disc we bought at DGLO this year, a gorgeous double-stamped Cryztal Luna. He got overconfident with it on hole #16 at VIRA and it ticked a branch, causing it to splash down somewhere in an awful little body of water known for its snapping turtles and murky muck bottom.

We raked for half an hour to no avail, only bringing up an empty can of All Day IPA.

In the meantime he's bagged a really pretty X-out Opto Mercy I dyed a couple of years ago. It was a decent substitute, but obviously wasn't a 10/10 for him like the Cryztal Luna.

Fast-forward two weeks, and a guy texts me that he found it. We met at a nearby McDonalds and I rewarded him handsomely for it.

Last night my son parked a 240' wooded hole with that Luna at league, featuring a couple of tiny gaps you have to thread...right in front of a local legend who has played on lead card at worlds with Climo a couple of times. Ahhhhhhhhh, that's more like it!

Just remember when you return a Disc you might help a kid out like this. We play the greatest sport there is.
 
what if somebody loses their wallet, goes back to look for it, and can't find it. is it yours because they failed?

That's my moral judgment to deal with. No one else's. You don't want to lose your wallet, don't bring it to the course. Lock in your vehicle.
 
Not a tough guy, just a guy who goes out his way to keep his things safe, and has zero sympathies for those who are careless with important personal possessions.

What happened to community? We are all really here to contribute to community, not the individual. Is it painful for you to care about others?

Bad parenting.
 
What happened to community? We are all really here to contribute to community, not the individual. Is it painful for you to care about others?

Bad parenting.

Because community sounds like socialism. In 'Murica you take what you can.
 
That's my moral judgment to deal with. No one else's. You don't want to lose your wallet, don't bring it to the course. Lock in your vehicle.

do you think it's legal to keep somebody's wallet if you find it?
 
I have contributed to the community of disc and public for years.

I have no problem helping build community. Lost and found is not community. It is a natural consequence of poor choices on the individual's part.

It's not bad parenting. It's instilling morals into individuals then allowing them to make choices. The fact that you assume parenting is the reason for my choice, is pretty telling about yourself. Parenting can only do so much. Individuals must be responsible for their actions. Your parents told you to lock your car door. You don't. Your car is broken into. Bad parenting? Come on...

Someone blows a tire on the road. They have a spare but need assistance getting a lug nut off. That's help, and I'm happy to provide assistance. The same person blows a tire, has no spare and no jack. That is a natural consequence that they have now imposed on themselves. Why do I need to stop on the side of the road, with high-speed traffic, to help? If I'm not in a hurry somewhere, maybe I stop. I've got a family at home, do I risk my well-being for someone else's poor choices? Personal decision.

Do give individuals who lost a disc the opportunity to reclaim what is theirs, yes. Do I need to make it as easy as possible for the person who gave up, absolutely not? That is MY choice. If you don't like my choice, don't let me find your ****.

If you want to be mad, you better start with yourself. You're the one who lost it, not me.:|
 
do you think it's legal to keep somebody's wallet if you find it?

Never said whether it was legal or not. Just a moral decision you need to make. Is it legal to smoke weed on the course, or play glow after the park is "officially closed?" It's a question of whether or not you think you will be caught, and can you deal with the consequences. You have the right to make that choice for yourself. Right/ Wrong. Legal/ Illegal
 
Never said whether it was legal or not. Just a moral decision you need to make. Is it legal to smoke weed on the course, or play glow after the park is "officially closed?" It's a question of whether or not you think you will be caught, and can you deal with the consequences. You have the right to make that choice for yourself. Right/ Wrong. Legal/ Illegal

ok, so for the question: "is it moral to keep something that doesn't belong to you?" you would answer "yes", correct?

regarding the weed question: depends on the state and relevant laws
 
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If you don't like my choice, don't let me find your ****.


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I have contributed to the community of disc and public for years.

I have no problem helping build community. Lost and found is not community. It is a natural consequence of poor choices on the individual's part.

It's not bad parenting. It's instilling morals into individuals then allowing them to make choices. The fact that you assume parenting is the reason for my choice, is pretty telling about yourself. Parenting can only do so much. Individuals must be responsible for their actions. Your parents told you to lock your car door. You don't. Your car is broken into. Bad parenting? Come on...

Someone blows a tire on the road. They have a spare but need assistance getting a lug nut off. That's help, and I'm happy to provide assistance. The same person blows a tire, has no spare and no jack. That is a natural consequence that they have now imposed on themselves. Why do I need to stop on the side of the road, with high-speed traffic, to help? If I'm not in a hurry somewhere, maybe I stop. I've got a family at home, do I risk my well-being for someone else's poor choices? Personal decision.

Do give individuals who lost a disc the opportunity to reclaim what is theirs, yes. Do I need to make it as easy as possible for the person who gave up, absolutely not? That is MY choice. If you don't like my choice, don't let me find your ****.

If you want to be mad, you better start with yourself. You're the one who lost it, not me.:|

I am not mad, nor mad at you. I see community as helping everyone, not just the ones better at understanding the consequence of their actions.
 
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