Dire Wolfy
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If this is "war," it's a tepid and mild one. The thread title is click bait.
Agreed.
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If this is "war," it's a tepid and mild one. The thread title is click bait.
Wait till Aim gets here.
I looked at the Innova site, because I recently received a small cache of reward points redeemable at that shop to spend as a reward for doing a thing. In addition to the regular run discs being priced at MSRP (as has been mentioned several times already), the Innova site is not very granular when it comes to selecting disc weight, breaking the choices out into clumps of 3-5 grams at a whack, with break points that may not align well with the ranges that a customer desires.
For example, I'll throw pretty much any driver that's 162-168, or so, with 165 being my sweet spot. The pull-down menu options for selecting a weight break at 160-164 grams, and 165-169 grams. That's a bit awkward and inconvenient, for sure, when other online shops are much more specific about the weight, and I have three nearby retail shops where I can examine each disc in person.
Probably unrelated, but I have a question. A friend of mine has been noticing a general lack of GStar Destroyers in the online market the last couple-few weeks. He very specifically likes 167g, so he's most in-tune with stock in that weight.
I don't buy discs, nor keep up with rumors or production crap, but I know you guys do. Any thoughts? Is there a GStar (Destroyer) shortage right now? (Yes, I know discgolfcenter and Innova and discstore have *some*.....he's just claiming it's way less than usual.) Or are these normal ups and downs? Or perhaps off-season slowdowns? His biggest fear is that Innova is phasing out GStar plastic.
Thanks in advance.
As most of you know, the Innova Factory Store has been encroaching on its retailers turf for a while.
In the past year or so, they have started listing production runs of molds in Pro and Gstar, but now the gloves are off and they are listing regular production runs of Star Destroyers, Star Bosses, etc direct to the public, I wonder what Marshall Street, Discgolfcenter, Disc Nation, etc think about that ?
As most of you know, the Innova Factory Store has been encroaching on its retailers turf for a while.
In the past year or so, they have started listing production runs of molds in Pro and Gstar, but now the gloves are off and they are listing regular production runs of Star Destroyers, Star Bosses, etc direct to the public, I wonder what Marshall Street, Discgolfcenter, Disc Nation, etc think about that ?
Eh. F it. Discraft is even worse tho.
Who really cares on the stock stuff.. Give dealers some meat on the bones with the limited stuff that actually sells. Still bad 4 small biz. Innova doesnt need to retail discs but retailers need innova... :wall:
Welp that seals the deal for me. Used to love some DC. F that'
If they were selling production runs at barely above cost, or frankly anything less than MSRP, there would be a valid reason to be upset. As long as they're sticking to the MSRP that they ask/require of their retailers, how is the Innova Factory Store any different than any other competitor in the online market? Are you unhappy that Marshall Street or Infinite or Disc Nation or GGGT exist, too?
Seems to me the only difference between the Innova Factory Store and <name your retail website> is they have a larger potential profit margin (since their inventory costs them less than wholesale). And there's nothing that can be done about that. If they ceased their online presence, other retailers' profit margins wouldn't change one iota.
Other retailer's profit margin per unit wouldnt change, true...however, their volume of discs sold could potentially increase if Innova stopped selling discs directly.
This doesn't "seal the deal" for you, in regards to Innova?
True, but their volume could potentially increase if any online disc golf retailer shut down, so it's silly to single Innova's site out.
Dawg.. Even if i find an innova disc with no name i just toss in in the clear for the next person. Aint got no time 4 that BS plastic in my bag. Duh. They sealed the deal years ago when i first started playing and couldnt get a replacement viper or wraith to fly the same. DC was better so went that route on buzz XS/XL flash etc. Disc golf as a business just isnt really that great when you have the 2 biggest makers in the game now taking away from a big part of the market which supports them. In a healthy industry it is one thing but disc golf really is dead in that regard.
The "war" on dedicated disc golf stores (Infinite Discs, Marshall Street, etc.) is not from Innova"s direct to consumer, retail price sales, but from brand new Innova discs available at Dick's Sports, Wal-Mart, Play It Again Sports, and yes, even 7-Eleven convenience stores.
7-Ele... wha... what? You're telling me I can go in a gas station and buy discs? (admittedly, I've been in a tackle store that sold discs before... and frankly, I see non-dedicated retailers like that doing plenty for the DGing community...)