[Innova] Katana Echo Star Rating

[Prothios]

I've searched the internet far and wide and can't find anything on this. My buddy had a Katana in Echo Star plastic with the standard echo stamp on it. My regular star katana and every website i can find says its rated 13|5|-3|3, But his disc was stamped 13|6|-2|2. Some websites selling the echo disc even have images with the 13|6|-2|2 stamp visible and describe the disc as 13|5|-3|3. Anyone else notice this? Is it a misprint or does the echo really fly farther and tighter. Oddly enough its the same specs as the dreaded Groove. Unfortunate for him, he lost it playin a round so i can't take a pic of it :doh:

 

[Huk Finn]

Interesting.

I just checked my E* Katana (ohio am worlds stamp)

It says 13, 6, -2, 2

Example of the disc description and pictured disc being different:

http://www.discgolfcenter.com/main_displayProduct.php?p=517&PPQT1=257

 

[Craton]

Sounds like the same thing that happened with the Wraiths that were stamped as speed 12's

 

[Dfwdscglfr]

i have seen a avenger ss with the 1.8 stability rating on it or whatever the regular avenger rating is

 

[Handsome Rob]

Sounds like the same thing that happened with the Wraiths that were stamped as speed 12's

But the wraith's profile changed with its rating. The new wraiths are a slimmer profile with a flat top and a shallower inner rim. Compare and contrast Reg* to the E* katanas if you have the stockpile to do so. Pics of old v. new wraiths would be great here too. Starting to wish I threw innova just so I could Photograph these.

 

[bodomdethllica]

well echo star plastic tends to produce more "domey-er" molds. Being more domey, discs have more glide, that might be where the extra stat point comes from. going from a 5, to a 6

 

[Prothios]

Stat

Does the domeyness (if thats a word) of the disc tighten its flight to the -2|2. He hasn't been able to get his new normal katana to fly quit the same as that echo.

 

[Tpro]

I throw Echo Star Boss' and Destroyers.... Boss' are orange and the Destroyers are light green. I have a few of each some stamped with the Echo stamp and some with the Standard.. Not a single one is domey BUT they tend to be more understable. Just my ten cents

 

[Tiger Aqua]

Discmania's netstore has e*katana stamped with 13 5 -3 3

http://www.discmania.fi/shop/products/438

 

[bodomdethllica]

I throw Echo Star Boss' and Destroyers.... Boss' are orange and the Destroyers are light green. I have a few of each some stamped with the Echo stamp and some with the Standard.. Not a single one is domey BUT they tend to be more understable. Just my ten cents

every single echo star destroyer ive ever seen is much more "domey-er" look at a comparison between a regular star destroyer and an echo star destroyer huge flight plate difference

 

[bodomdethllica]

Does the domeyness (if thats a word) of the disc tighten its flight to the -2|2. He hasn't been able to get his new normal katana to fly quit the same as that echo.

is that "normal" katana a star katana?

 

[Prothios]

Order placed

Well i just ordered an echo katana from discgolfcenter, pic showed 13|6|-2|2 so we'll see when it comes in. I also have both destroyer plastics so i'll compare them tonight but i usually throw the echo as i find its more predictable with my throw style. hole 13 at stoney creek here in goldsboro is a 2 every time with that disc.

 

[Prothios]

is that "normal" katana a star katana?

My bad its a star, think thats the only plastics either of us throw any more is star and echo.

 

[Prothios]

Katana Echo Vs Star

Got the new echo katana in today, rated 13|6|-2|2 on the stamp. here's a cross section pic of both star and echo to compare. Found the echo does have considerably more dome so maybe it does have new ratings.

 

[Prothios]

Destroyer

Just for comparison here's a destroyer in echo and star. Don't really see much difference here.

 

[superium]

The Echo's definitely have more glide than the champs and stars. Kinda cool that Innova changed the rating based on the plastic since it does make more sense. I have a few discraft and millenium models that have different turn ratings on different plastic.

 

[JoshEpoo]

Just for comparison here's a destroyer in echo and star. Don't really see much difference here.

Looks to me like the top of the wing is quite a bit straighter on the Echo Star Destroyer and the shoulder forms a sharper angle and the outer edge of the disc is more squared off and blunt while the Star has kind of a 2 stage dome and a more curved wing/edge. I'd imagine the actual flight pattern is probably more consistent among the Destroyers though.