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I want to order an Anchor, but think Opto is a little too soft, probably good for colder climates like Scandinavia has, but too soft for CA.
Is Moonshine firmer than regular Opto ?
If it's firmer, how can it be between?To me it is a bit firmer, somewhere between Opto and Gold Line.
If it's firmer, how can it be between?
If it's firmer, how can it be between?
Sheesh, do I have to spell it out to the nth degree?
It's firmer than Opto, less firm than Gold Line.
Is that clear enough?
Crystal, but nothing like what you previously said.
Now I'm even more confused...
Consensus that latitude has a reversed firmnes/stability rating logic compared to Innova?
In order of firmest and least stable:
Gold, Moonshine, opto & frost?
I sold the wrong flow in that case...
Okay, here's the rundown:
GoldLine/Fuzion/Tournament Plastic, which I'll just call Gold Line, is most like Star. But Gold Line is firmer and a bit slicker than most Star discs. Gold Line also seasons in much more quickly than Star. My Star TLs season in over a long, long time, but my Gold Line Rivers have seasoned into understable/flippy within a couple of months (playing 3+ times per week).
Opto/Lucid/VIP, which I'll call Opto here, is clear and is considered to be like Champion. But it is a bit gummier/softer than Champion, and it wears in within a few months, while Champion can stay not worn in for years (and maybe forever, from what I've personally seen).
Moonshine is glow plastic, like Champion Glow. I have two discs in Moonshine plastic (River and Renegade) and don't know yet how long it will take for the River to season in, but I'll know within a few months because I'm bagging that River right now.
The Moonshine plastic feels a bit more firm than regular Opto, and the Moonshine Glow feels like some Star plastics over the past two years, like what is in my Star Roc3s.
I believe Frost and Fluid are the same thing (?), and I have a Fluid Warden. The plastic is gummier (softer) than Opto, thogh the rim area feels firm enough for me. Some have said it's like GStar. So far, the Fluid Warden has resisted seasoning in, but I use that Fluid Warden a LOT on upshots, so we'll see over time.
As to stabilities... Champ has generally been more overstable than Star, but I've found the Opto and Gold Line to be fairly close fresh out of the box. HOWEVER, Gold Line seasons in MUCH faster, so if someone says Opto is more stable than Gold Line, I could understand. The Fluid Warden is a bit more overstable than my Classic (Hard) Wardens and (the Fluid Warden) holds hyzers well.
The Moonshine discs have not shown themselves to be much more overstable than their counterparts in other plastics, while Champion usually is noticeably more overstable than other plastics (exceptions I've found are the batch of Star Thunderbirds that are much more OS than their Champ counterparts, and the Champ Roc3s and Star Roc3s I have were about the same stability fresh out of the box).
So IMHO you're not going to find a River that is much more overstable than any other and stays more OS... they're all going to wear in over time, some faster than others. By way of contrast, the Innova plastics are more noticeably different and Champ and Star take longer to wear down.
AS EVER: JMHO, YMMV. Individual results may vary.
Did Moonshine Renegade just come out? I hit the Dallas area Dynamic Discs store in December and they didn't have any yet. That's what I would've liked most at the time.To me it is a bit firmer, somewhere between Opto and Gold Line. We'll find out more this summer in the 95 degree heat and humidity of Georgia in the summer.
I just got a Moonshine River and a Moonshine Renegade. I'm hoping they'll take longer to beat in than Gold Line, especially the River. They feel good in the hand, too. So I'd say give a Moonshine Anchor a shot...
Did Moonshine Renegade just come out? I hit the Dallas area Dynamic Discs store in December and they didn't have any yet. That's what I would've liked most at the time.
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Did Moonshine Renegade just come out? I hit the Dallas area Dynamic Discs store in December and they didn't have any yet. That's what I would've liked most at the time.
To me it is a bit firmer, somewhere between Opto and Gold Line. We'll find out more this summer in the 95 degree heat and humidity of Georgia in the summer.
I just got a Moonshine River and a Moonshine Renegade. I'm hoping they'll take longer to beat in than Gold Line, especially the River. They feel good in the hand, too. So I'd say give a Moonshine Anchor a shot...
How is the Moonshine River working out after a couple months of use and summer heat? Too early to tell?